1. #91181
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Is drone striking a SCOTUS Justice an official act? Asking for a friend.
    You people are beyond help. Pathetic and disgusting to the core.
    "Why do all supposed 'centrists' just sound like right wingers?" --some insane person

    TRUMP WON. YOU LOST. FADE INTO OBSCURITY.

  2. #91182
    Quote Originally Posted by Dald View Post
    You people are beyond help. Pathetic and disgusting to the core.
    No one is buying the crocodile tears.

  3. #91183
    Quote Originally Posted by Dald View Post
    You people are beyond help. Pathetic and disgusting to the core.
    I'm just asking questions here. Do you know the answer? Can drone striking a SCOTUS Justice be an official act? If so, SCOTUS just ruled that's A-OK and that POTUS should be immune from prosecution over it.

    So if you want to clutch your pearls in front of anyone please find Chief Justice Roberts and the four other conservative Justices and clutch your pearls there.

  4. #91184
    I'll say this. If it counts as official, time to let Biden get Seal Team 6 on some things.

    Trump and a lot of the GOP could very easily be considered domestic terrorists. Especially many of their voters. Even a certain SCOTUS and his wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm just asking questions here. Do you know the answer? Can drone striking a SCOTUS Justice be an official act? If so, SCOTUS just ruled that's A-OK and that POTUS should be immune from prosecution over it.

    So if you want to clutch your pearls in front of anyone please find Chief Justice Roberts and the four other conservative Justices and clutch your pearls there.
    Biden just has to say “I thought they were a terrorist.”

    They can’t question whether he actually thought that and they can’t question anyone he might have spoken to about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dald View Post
    You people are beyond help. Pathetic and disgusting to the core.
    But why couldn’t he do it? What’s stopping him beyond “he shouldn’t?”
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

  6. #91186
    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    I just finished reading the whole decision.

    It's the most unhinged legal document I have ever seen. It not just grants the President virtual immunity from prosecution, it grants the President immunity from almost all legal review including that by Congress itself. Absolutely unhinged.

    We are fucked.
    Yup. The mouth breathers that support this are unhinged. Like do they realize that when [insert person you personally do not like] gets into office they can do whatever they want? What about Biden right now? This is what decades of underfunding public education gets you.

    "Official capacity" is a nearly irrelevant nuance unless official duties are codifed in detail.

  7. #91187
    Time for Biden to write an executive order prohibiting felons from running for office.
    Just don't reply to me. Please. If you can help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausr View Post
    Time for Biden to write an executive order prohibiting felons from running for office.
    Unfortunately (or fortunately) this is less about a president writing laws and more about a president doing something (like, say, taking classified documents) and then being legally exempt from prosecution for having done something otherwise completely illegal.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

  9. #91189
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Actual clown shoes comment.

    You realize that voting is how these justices were put into place, yeah?
    Hilary ran one of the worst campaigns ever. She ignored the Rust Belt states. That's on her and her campaign management, not voters.

  10. #91190
    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    Hilary ran one of the worst campaigns ever. She ignored the Rust Belt states. That's on her and her campaign management, not voters.
    You aren't special enough to tread this ground for the 100th time.

  11. #91191
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Unfortunately (or fortunately) this is less about a president writing laws and more about a president doing something (like, say, taking classified documents) and then being legally exempt from prosecution for having done something otherwise completely illegal.
    I don't see any reason why he can't do what was outlined. "Official duties" is too broad to be meaningful in most contexts.

  12. #91192
    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Moose Fandango View Post
    I'll say this. If it counts as official, time to let Biden get Seal Team 6 on some things.

    Trump and a lot of the GOP could very easily be considered domestic terrorists. Especially many of their voters. Even a certain SCOTUS and his wife.
    I have faith that the House would impeach, the Senate would convict, and this would be treated as the illegitimate action that it is. The process is actually pretty clear. What, are you actually saying that you think House Democrats would be fine with Biden pulling a self-coup?

  13. #91193
    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    Hilary ran one of the worst campaigns ever. She ignored the Rust Belt states. That's on her and her campaign management, not voters.
    I remember what happened two days before the general election, it wasn't about her campaign. Or her personality or anything else. It was about her being a woman and us vs them mentality in the US. Repubs would find a reason to hate Jesus if he ran as a Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I have faith that the House would impeach, the Senate would convict, and this would be treated as the illegitimate action that it is. The process is actually pretty clear. What, are you actually saying that you think House Democrats would be fine with Biden pulling a self-coup?
    What if they were?

    Biden, under this ruling from scotus, would be completely in the clear if the democrats are unwilling to impeach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I have faith that the House would impeach, the Senate would convict, and this would be treated as the illegitimate action that it is. The process is actually pretty clear. What, are you actually saying that you think House Democrats would be fine with Biden pulling a self-coup?
    And if he takes out anyone even thinking of impeaching him?

  16. #91196
    So killing someone who stole the highest levels of national secrets and is actively selling them is considered "official duties" of President, yes?

  17. #91197
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I have faith that the House would impeach, the Senate would convict, and this would be treated as the illegitimate action that it is. The process is actually pretty clear. What, are you actually saying that you think House Democrats would be fine with Biden pulling a self-coup?
    Marfrilau made the exact point which makes what you said a joke, and why all this is so incredibly concerning. Trump could just order the execution of anyone he thinks would vote to impeach him. Hell, he already has a list of his own team, since it's already happened twice. He'd just call them, "A threat to national security," or something to that effect. Official duties, defending from enemies from within.

    1: No, none of us think Democrats would let Biden get away with that. Democrats actually care about the law and the rules. They know it's the only thing that holds our society together.

    2: Trump and his blindly-following, spineless Republicans WOULD do this, and would let Trump get away with it. They WANT this. They see law and rules as a way to gain ultimate power. This isn't speculation, as you can simply read Project 2025 and know that's what's happening.

    The entire point is Democrats are pointing out, "We don't need this kind of absolute power in one party/person, and the preceding 44 Presidents before Trump PROVES it."
    The fact that Republicans are arguing otherwise, and celebrating this gross overreach of power, tells you everything you need to know.

    The idea that they call themselves the party of, "Small government," is so laughable at this point I don't know how anyone takes it seriously. I do actually know some Republicans, before this, that felt the President already had TOO much power. One example I can think of got himself perma-banned from these forums, and he was well-ahead of thinking of all of the problems we're having right now. He saw the exact writing on the walls ages ago. I really wonder what he thinks of all this right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Moose Fandango View Post
    I'll say this. If it counts as official, time to let Biden get Seal Team 6 on some things.

    Trump and a lot of the GOP could very easily be considered domestic terrorists. Especially many of their voters. Even a certain SCOTUS and his wife.
    Insurrectionists and Domestic Terrorists are in the same general category....

  19. #91199
    I can't wait to see what Trump does with this once he's reelected.

  20. #91200
    Quote Originally Posted by anveena View Post
    I can't wait to see what Trump does with this once he's reelected.
    The clown show said that shit in '20.
    The whiny petulant denial is strong.

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