Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[noidentity]

Oh. How fun. We have that dress where people see different colors. Except in this scenario one color is real and the other is make believe.

He's also known for the many, many, MANY businesses he has bankrupted along with being well known for not paying his bills.

[B]The book he didn't even write. But sure, let's say he's good at negotiating...but let's check the next point.

[B]He's also known for being crude and a bully, which many find off-putting. Which may explain you confusing this with good negotiation skills.

[B]His wandering, often incoherent unfiltered way of speaking confuses and concerns many who see it as a sign of his age and declining cognitive abilities.

[B]You know what. I'll give you this one. Trump has certainly weathered a lot of adversity and overcame it. But...so has Joe Biden and a ton of other people you probably loathe. Also, this whole "he got shot in the head" thing is....really stretching what happened to the point of disbelief. But that's what Trump does so I see what you love it.

[B]I'll give you this one too. He knows being a profane bully on social media gets his base energized. The more vulgar and hateful he is the more his base loves it.

[B]During his presidency, Trump prioritized economic policies aimed at making the rich richer and corporations richer, which nearly all economists have said actually hurt the economy. Because guess what, trickle down economics isn't a thing.

[B]Trump loves Americans who he chooses. He sure doesn't love minorities, immigrants, women, gays, democrats, or even other Republicans who don't bow down to him.

[B]Do you really need me to list the number of supporters he's turned on? Or left in the dust? C'mon - he's not loyal, he's a narcissist. As long as you are worshiping him you have his loyalty but the second you step even one step out of line or tell him no you are dead meat. That isn't loyalty. That's a mob boss.

[B]Sure. Fine. But then again so many of his opponents are also bold.

[B]Yes cult leaders do have a certain type of charisma. But it certainly isn't a broad charisma given his approval rating sit in the toilet and stay there.

[B]Yes. I'm sure the convicted felon cares so deeply about law and order.

[B]I do love how the rich coastal elite fooled you all into thinking he's an outsider. How quickly and easily you forget all those photos of him with political figures such as the Clintons.

[B][U]You poor poor sweet child. I remember his campaign to ban bump stocks. Or to stop covid vaccinations. I could go on, but why bother. You stopped reading this half a page ago.

[B]Meh, my opinion is this is something someone gives him - I find it hard to believe Trump cares at all about trade reform. Also his tariff proposals have been universally panned at terrible for businesses and consumers alike.

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This one is easy - why on earth should anyone take Trump at his word? He has a long documented history of lying.

FYI you're arguing against a chatbot whose entire point is to fake it until you make it with long winded posts of bullshit.

[DingDongKing]

Thank you for asking, here.

President Donald Trump,

Business Acumen: Trump is known for his experience in real estate and branding, having built a business empire before his presidency.

Negotiation Skills: He is often praised for his deal-making abilities, which he highlighted in his book "The Art of the Deal."

Confidence: Trump is known for his confidence and assertiveness, which many find inspiring.

Direct Communication: His straightforward, often unfiltered way of speaking resonates with many who see it as refreshing and honest.

Resilience: Trump has shown a capacity to recover and persevere through various personal and professional challenges. Like, you know, getting shot in the head and immediately inspiring the people he represents to fight for Democracy.

Media Savvy: He has a keen understanding of media dynamics and has effectively used social media to engage with his base.

Focus on Economic Growth: During his presidency, Trump prioritized economic policies aimed at stimulating growth, including tax cuts and deregulation.

Patriotism: Trump frequently emphasizes his love for America and his commitment to putting American interests first.

Loyalty to Supporters: He is known for being very loyal to his base, often prioritizing their concerns and viewpoints.

Boldness: Trump’s willingness to take bold actions, even if controversial, appeals to those who prefer decisive leadership.

Charisma: His larger-than-life persona and energetic rallies have created a strong and dedicated following.

Focus on Law and Order: He often emphasizes the importance of law enforcement and public safety.

Unconventional Approach: His outsider status and non-traditional approach to politics attract those disillusioned with the status quo.

Commitment to Campaign Promises: Many supporters, including myself, appreciate his efforts to fulfill his campaign promises.

Advocacy for Trade Reform: His focus on renegotiating trade deals was aimed at benefiting American workers.

This is a great dating profile on a boomer website.

[tikcol]

I'm not too worried about Donald Trump's psychological health. The man is a lion in a man's skin but still, there's no denial an assassination attempt is not something anyone encounters on a daily basis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...AN-HODGES.html

Donald Trump tried his best to hide it. But as he walked out into the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee for his first appearance since Saturday’s attempt on his life, his body betrayed him. The smile was fixed. The walk slow, and slightly hesitant. Then, as he gazed out on the huge crowd of supporters rapturously applauding him, he suddenly stared downwards, as if attempting to block the moment out.

A lot has been said and written in the days following the shooting. It has primarily focused on its implications for the race for the presidency and the broader toxicity of American political culture. There has been a reignition of the debate over gun control and the perceived failings of the US Secret Service, which have in turn spawned a plethora of online conspiracy theories.

But there has been virtually no discussion of what it means for Donald Trump, the man. Less than 48 hours earlier death had literally run its fingers across his cheek. Yet there he was, being shunted out into an arena of thousands chanting at him: ‘Fight! Fight! Fight!’, the words Trump shouted immediately after the shooting.

Donald Trump attends the Republican National Convention at the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee with his ear bandaged after the attempt on his life

And he will fight. Whatever your views of Trump, there is no disputing the courage and defiance he showed in the immediate aftermath of the attack. Part of him will undoubtedly relish his near-martyrdom. But there is something slightly obscene about the way our political circus just washes the blood from the stage, and moves on. It demands that its acrobats and jugglers simply bind their wounds – physical and psychological – and carry on performing. Or are casually cast aside when they can’t.

Last week I was talking to an MP who had narrowly lost her seat in the election. Obviously what she experienced was very different to what the former president went through at the Butler Farm showgrounds. But it still cut deep.

‘I was at the count,’ she told me, ‘and I suddenly felt like I was attending my own funeral. I was standing on the stage listening to the returning officer, and my life as I’ve known it was ending. It was as if I was hearing them read my own obituary.’

Democracy is necessarily brutal. Those in power need to face a regular accounting at the hands of the people. And national governance is a rough trade, requiring resilience and robustness. But it’s now time to start to have a proper discussion about the mental health of our politicians.

I personally know one high-profile senior politician who is currently in need of serious psychological support. Yet for some reason, no appropriate care of any kind is being provided. They are appearing on the broadcast rounds. They are continuing to write commentary for newspapers. They regularly promote themselves on social media. This is all being done with the knowledge and consent of people who they would call their friends and ‘allies’.

The former president, covered in blood from the bullet which grazed his ear, raises his fist at the event in Pennsylvania on Saturday

Yet what they desperately need is a period out of the public eye, away from the ongoing criticism and opprobrium of their opponents, where they can properly process and manage their very real feelings of personal and political grief.

This is not an isolated case. We place a premium on ‘toughness’. So that all too frequently ends up forcing our politicians to erect a façade. I know another senior politician who enjoys a reputation for being ‘a fighter’ who has been significantly affected by the abuse they have received in their Cabinet role. Again, they are in need of proper support. And again, none is forthcoming.

Several months ago I was speaking to a backbencher who had become increasingly obsessed with a political issue, and angered at what they saw as the media’s failure to cover it sufficiently. ‘You’re complicit,’ they told me, ‘and there’ll be a reckoning. We won’t waste bullets on you, we’ll go for garrotting. You’re on the side of the Nazis. And “I was only obeying orders” won’t be an excuse.’

That’s one of the more extreme cases. But there is currently a total absence of any formal mental health support in what is one of the most stressful, public-facing professions. I asked an official who had worked for one of our former prime ministers if they had been offered any counselling when they left office. He laughed. ‘Not that I’m aware of. And anyway, I don’t think they’d have taken it up if it was offered. Their attitude is “That’s how it goes, you just have to take it and carry on.”’

Yet even the strongest figures find it hard to just keep pushing forward. Or if they do, it leaves scars. In the immediate aftermath of the Brighton bombing Margaret Thatcher caught a couple of hours sleep on a bunk-bed in a local police station, then rose, and addressed her party conference. It was an incredible display of statesmanship and resistance.

But the experience changed her. Those closest to her observed in the years that followed how Brighton had made her more reserved and reflective. Her personal assistant Cynthia Crawford recounted how the prime minister’s husband Denis had gone to Bond Street in the weeks following the attack and bought her a watch. ‘She told me he had said, “This is to tell you every minute counts.” I think deep down she knew she had been lucky that night, very lucky.’

Donald Trump will never admit it. But he’ll also need people to be there for him in the coming weeks and months. And so will our own politicians.

[Celista]

This is a great dating profile on a boomer website.

Much like Trump…completely full of BS. Gives me a good laugh every time I read it.

[Mekh]

The man is a lion in a man's skin...

A fat, lazy carrion eater who lets others around him do the work, then acts like he's the king of the jungle? First accurate thing you've said.

[zorkuus]

I'm not too worried about Donald Trump's psychological health. The man is a lion in a man's skin but still, there's no denial an assassination attempt is not something anyone encounters on a daily basis.

Why don't you just take a room with him in some motel somewhere and be done with it?

[Celista]

I'm not too worried about Donald Trump's psychological health. The man is a lion in a man's skin

Trump is a walking case of NPD with other cluster B traits, including APD. The only reason he is not diagnosed is that to our knowledge he has never seen a mental health professional and it is not good practice for practitioners to diagnose over the internet. Even though we have more than ample video evidence of his temperament.

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Why don't you just take a room with him in some motel somewhere and be done with it?

I am not convinced he is posting in good faith lol.

[diller]

In the waiting room at the doctors office the news were on and it was something about Trump, an elderly lady said to me "too bad they didn't hit"... I paused and said, "you can't say that -pause- but I don't disagree".

[Endus]

I am not convinced he is posting in good faith lol.

He got caught spamming AI-written posts, and now he's just posting links with empty comments at the start. Of course it's not in good faith.

[Edge-]

I'm still waiting to hear the medical report on his injuries.

Wild that media aren't making a bigger deal of the fact that it's been 5 days and we don't have a doctors statement or medical summary or anything?

[Celista]

He got caught spamming AI-written posts, and now he's just posting links with empty comments at the start. Of course it's not in good faith.

He is trying to convince me otherwise in a PM lol. Sorry @tikcol , I don’t argue in private messages, it goes nowhere. We are going to have to agree to disagree.

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I'm still waiting to hear the medical report on his injuries.

Wild that media aren't making a bigger deal of the fact that it's been 5 days and we don't have a doctors statement or medical summary or anything?

Probably deliberately held off because of some other medical issue and/or because he thinks it would make him look not tough.

His health is more suspicious to me than Biden’s. I saw that video where he was sitting on a golf cart talking crap about Biden/saying he is dropping out of the race. He was winded from just speaking.

Probably has a bad case of osteoarthritis from his obesity but maybe he should start thinking about doing some cardio for his heart health…

[fwc577]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/17/2...rally-shooting

Maybe you've heard of Sticker Mule, maybe you haven't.

It's a somewhat popular company to create custom stickers. I hang with a lot of content creators and a lot of them use Sticker Mule to generate custom stickers which they hand out to viewers in the case of YouTube content creators or in the case of some of the authors I have in my friends circle, they're given out at book signings or part of promotional packages.

Well, after the assassination attempt, they sent out this via SMS and Email to all of their customers:

Donald Trump was shot.
I don’t care what your political views are but the hate for Trump and his supporters has gone too far.
People are terrified to admit they support Trump. I’ve been scared myself.
Americans shouldn’t live in fear.
I support Trump. Many at Sticker Mule do.
Many at Sticker Mule also support Biden.
The political hate needs to stop.
Hopefully this email helps.
Btw, this week, get 1 shirt for $4 (normally $19).
I suggest buying one that shows you support Trump.
The more people realize that millions of kind-hearted, compassionate people support Trump, the sooner the hate will end.
Awesome people, all over the world, love Trump. Don’t limit your friendships and diminish your happiness by indulging in political hate.
Vocalize your support. Stop the hate. Anthony Constantino
Cofounder, Sticker Mule

The end result has been backlash. Many people have been cancelling standing orders and moving their business elsewhere.

But the CEO of Sticker Mule... he wasn't done, he posted the following on Twitter:

I gave $2500 bonuses to all 79 people on our support team because they received death threats. That must stop, but, on the bright side, we paid out $195,000 in bonuses.

If people expressing hate towards us want to feel good about something, they can take credit for helping our support team earn sizable bonuses.

I hope my message supporting Donald Trump and encouraging respect for all people becomes a learning moment for everyone.

As much backlash as we received, it’s good for society that people learn that lots of people with BIG HEARTS support President Trump.

I want maximum happiness for everyone!

Anthony Constantino
Cofounder, Sticker Mule

He's also going about this in the dumbest way possible by releasing names and emails of people which other people are trying to get libsoftiktok involved to doxx them further and get people fired.

I thought the right hated snowflakes and cancel culture?

[Bwgmon]

I thought the right hated snowflakes and cancel culture?

No no, it's "Justice" when the right does it.

[Sunseeker]

If you have a big heart and support Trump I'd suggest getting checked for heart disease.

[postman1782]

I'm still waiting to hear the medical report on his injuries.

Wild that media aren't making a bigger deal of the fact that it's been 5 days and we don't have a doctors statement or medical summary or anything?

Yesterday at the beginning of the convention, he had the bandage on the wrong ear.

[masterhorus8]

Yesterday at the beginning of the convention, he had the bandage on the wrong ear.

Was it actually or was it just a flipped picture? (Too many places do that and it's actually quite annoying)

[postman1782]

Was it actually or was it just a flipped picture? (Too many places do that and it's actually quite annoying)

Nope, it was on the wrong ear.

[PhaelixWW]

Nope, it was on the wrong ear.

No, the image was flipped.

[Logwyn]

No, the image was flipped.

I'm more worried about it being the "hand of god" that saved him people that vote...

[fwc577]

I'm more worried about it being the "hand of god" that saved him people that vote...

Don't worry about them. They were already voting.