Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Poopymonster]

Putting aside the partisanship issues of Thomas and Alito, the ruling is actually fantastic (and in our new weird crazy world, surprising).

The sentencing portion of the felony conviction process is very straight forward, and mostly driven by legislation, in the form of sentencing guidelines. Discarding the litany of minutia, the core issue here is, can the judge sentence Trump for his conviction. Yes, he can - SCOTUS said so.

The next chapter in our ongoing saga is will the plethora of appeals Trump's "attorneys" have and will file continue to delay the sentencing process? AND, the biggest question, once a sentence is levied, what timeline will Trump have to report for jail/service/etc?

Meanwhile, we'll have a young and energetic Harris about to nominate her VP, with Trump being splashed across the news with "when does he report to jail [finally]?".

Prosecutor vs Felon - your choice kids.

These are the same people who saw the pic of Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart on her TV show and answered the question "Which one is a convicted felon?" wrong.

[gondrin]

These are the same people who saw the pic of Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart on her TV show and answered the question "Which one is a convicted felon?" wrong.

Well, unless they say Stewart was never a felon, both are convicted felons. Stewart with her fraud charge and Snoop Dogg was convicted of a felony drug charge with intent to sell in 1990.

[Rustedsaint]

Well, unless they say Stewart was never a felon, both are convicted felons. Stewart with her fraud charge and Snoop Dogg was convicted of a felony drug charge with intent to sell in 1990.

Ya I was gonna they both been in jail and snoop should probably still be in jail if he truly was responsible for murder
https://www.theage.com.au/entertainm...26-ge4r5r.html
Us 90 kids member the headlines about him.

[Zemini7]

more full on meltdowns. I love it. But its still scary

[Breccia]

Pride.com lists their favorite 35 reactions to the video of Trump dancing to YMCA.

"Why'd you pick them?"

You know why.

"Okay, but why did he even dance at all?"

Multiple more serious articles I won't bother posting suggest Trump is scared Harris is taking all the young voters, and also, that he thinks dancing and hanging out with rappers will help.

"Dancing like...that? Do young people even know who the Village People are?"

And like that, you figured out why I cited Pride.com didn't you?

[Edge-]

Pride.com lists their favorite 35 reactions to the video of Trump dancing to YMCA.

"Why'd you pick them?"

You know why.

"Okay, but why did he even dance at all?"

Multiple more serious articles I won't bother posting suggest Trump is scared Harris is taking all the young voters, and also, that he thinks dancing and hanging out with rappers will help.

"Dancing like...that? Do young people even know who the Village People are?"

And like that, you figured out why I cited Pride.com didn't you?

Those two are doing more to perpetuate the stereotype that white people can't dance than anyone has done this millennium.

Really though, is Donald going to try to make the "double handjob" a thing? It's never going to be a thing outside of the places where adults wear diapers and ear bandages to go on the dance floor.

[postman1782]

Pride.com lists their favorite 35 reactions to the video of Trump dancing to YMCA.

"Why'd you pick them?"

You know why.

"Okay, but why did he even dance at all?"

Multiple more serious articles I won't bother posting suggest Trump is scared Harris is taking all the young voters, and also, that he thinks dancing and hanging out with rappers will help.

"Dancing like...that? Do young people even know who the Village People are?"

And like that, you figured out why I cited Pride.com didn't you?

I have been seeing a lot of moronic Trump supporters claiming they will be double fisting dicks like Trump is in November. While they play YMCA on their videos.

[gondrin]

I have been seeing a lot of moronic Trump supporters claiming they will be double fisting dicks like Trump is in November. While they play YMCA on their videos.

Well, maybe they can do a collab and have a good ole fashioned circlejerk.

[Breccia]

Ah, it's good to see at least a little hypocrisy called out.

Fox News host knocks Trump: ‘You either own the markets or you don’t’

Trump said that the Wall Street drop, triggered by instability in the Japanese economy alongside concerns over a cooling U.S. jobs market, was actually the fault of the White House. Earlier this year, when stocks were soaring, Trump had said it was because of anticipation over him returning to the White House.

“The Donald Trump thing in the market amazes me,” Cavuto said. “When they’re up, it’s all because of him and looking forward to him. When they’re down, it’s all because the Democrats and how horrific they are.”

“Yet some of our biggest point drops, three of the biggest of the top 10, occurred during his administration,” he continued. “Now, a lot of those were in the COVID years, I get that, but, you know, you either own the markets or you don’t. It does confuse me.”

The Dow fell about 1,100 points on Monday, with U.S. markets experiencing their worst day since 2022.

Republicans dubbed the fall the “Kamala Crash.”

“Of course there is a massive market downturn,” Trump said in a post on his social media platform Truth Social. “Kamala is even worse than Crooked Joe. Markets will NEVER accept the Radical Left Lunatic that DESTROYED San Francisco and California, as a whole. Next move, THE GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2024! You can’t play games with MARKETS. KAMALA CRASH!!!”

Trump in January said he hoped there would be an economic crash “in the next 12 months” — before he would take office if he won the election — so he would not be like former President Hoover, who took office just months before the 1929 stock market crash that triggered the Great Depression.

Ammar Moussa, a spokesperson for the Harris campaign, shot back at Trump’s messaging on Monday.

“What middle class families need is steady economic stewardship, not chaotic ranting lies,” Moussa said in a statement. “Donald Trump had the worst jobs record of any modern president, and oversaw some of the worst days in the stock market in history while spending his presidency lining the pockets of his wealthy friends who shipped American jobs overseas. Economic experts agree: His plans would raise costs on working families by $2,500 a year and ‘supercharge’ inflation.”

I know some of you were talking about the DOW up/down recently, and it seems appropriate to cite FOX News *ding* pointing out that Trump's claims are bullshit.

[gondrin]

It does confuse me.

I want to ask Cavuto how it can confuse him. Trump literally refuses to take blame for anything and only accept credit. Anything that can be considered bad that can be attributed to him or in some way to him, he will go out of his way to argue that it wasn't his fault.

[Poopymonster]

I want to ask Cavuto how it can confuse him. Trump literally refuses to take blame for anything and only accept credit. Anything that can be considered bad that can be attributed to him or in some way to him, he will go out of his way to argue that it wasn't his fault.

Cavuto is probably confused because he was his given marching orders, probably asked "Are we going to get sued again?" then was given a completely DIFFERENT set of marching orders that contradicted the first.

Orange man good, er, orange man not g, me uncertain. Want orange....mmm..Faygo...

[Benggaul]

Following up on the Ellis plea agreement:

Dominoes Are Falling in Arizona Fake Electors Case

A woman has pleaded guilty in the Arizona Trump electors case, just two day after lawyer Jenna Ellis reached a plea agreement.

Loraine Pellegrino, former president of the group Ahwatukee RepublicanWomen, pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a misdemeanor charge of filing a false document.

As Breccia says, I'm just copying and pasting...Newsweek--or the aggregate site MSN where I'm linking this from--is responsible for the typos...

She was sentenced to unsupervised probation for three years and must complete community service. Initially, she had pleaded not guilty and was facing nine felony counts.

Newsweek sought email comment from her attorney on Wednesday.

Ellis, once a major figure in the Trump campaign, may be called to testify against former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, ex-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and her other Arizona co-accused.
The alternate electors in Arizona and other states had hoped that Vice President Mike Pence would certify Trump as the winner of the 2020 election. Pence refused to do so on January 6, 2021. A group of Trump supporters then stormed the Capitol, some of them chanting threatening slogans about Pence.

Prosecutors in Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada have also filed criminal charges for fake Trump electors in their state. A judge dismissed the Nevada case in June and prosecutors are now appealing, The Hill reported.

[Breccia]

Loraine Pellegrino

So, we all have the same question: how far can the fake election/democracy subversion cases make it, before the defense raises "subverting an election and attacking democracy is a Core Constitutional Duty of the President" and SCOTUS steps in to stall?

We all know that elections are, of course, not part of the WH. Any reasonable judge will say so. Nothing about the electors, specifically, has anything to do with the WH in any way, going from the states right to the certification.

But it's August. There's not a lot of time left. If the cases pick up, for example if these people roll on others and cause more arrests, it might even spill to other states. Ellis and Giuliani were active nationwide. If the arrests and cases continue to build and continue to make headlines, which the Democrats need to ensure they do with aggressive campaign tactics, the damage might be less than a conviction that sticks, but more than "oh by the way, we found Clinton's aide's husband's laptop" and that was plenty.

[Nymrohd]

Unsupervised probation and community service for trying to destroy democracy.

[Azadina]

How does 9 counts of felony charges become a single misdemeanor charge? That's just ridiculous, plea deal or no.

[Gigantique]

That's nice, but the reason I have to do it is because I'm not a native latin speaker, and the word "phrenology" looks and sounds like "frenology" to me, which in turn reminds me of the word "frenuloplasty". A medical procedure I had to have done since the frenulum in my penis snapped one time I was having sex and there was a lot of blood.

So when I see it I imagine a bunch of dudes measuring their dicks together.

I did not expect myself to imagine a heterosexual couple spending a moment confused as to where the blood came from seeing as the woman had her period two weeks ago today. But here we are.

Yes I am deliberately making that scene not be excruciatingly painful in my mind do NOT CORRECT ME ON THIS.

[Nymrohd]

How does 9 counts of felony charges become a single misdemeanor charge? That's just ridiculous, plea deal or no.

White women.

[Azadina]

White women.

Nice, so I could rob jewellery stores at will, and then plead guilty to say...tresspassing?

[Shadowferal]

Only if you spell trespassing correctly.

[Azadina]

Only if you spell trespassing correctly.

sad times. Guess I chose profession well, and didn't become an English teacher. Would have failed right away!