1. #92421
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Really bordering on, if not well over the line, of what should fall under tort law. Though given that he's primarily challenging organizations and institutions rather than people it doesn't fit the traditional definition.

    Honestly surprised he can still find the money for all this, or lawyers - even bad ones - who will keep working for clout.
    But corporations are people, so it should still apply.
    And that's my opinion, I'm just using the GOPs logic

  2. #92422
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    This country needs a “cry wolf” statute added.

    If you get X number of lawsuits thrown out for pure frivolity, any new defendants in further lawsuits that get struck down get to immediately counter-sue.
    Honestly, this is where Anti-SLAPP laws should come into play. While it wouldn't stop someone from filing them outright, some of the Anti-SLAPP laws also demand that the person suing is also required to pay for any court costs and other fees that is incurred from said lawsuit for the defense if the defense requests it.

  3. #92423
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    He's a former prosecutor! He should know that ignoring court deadlines doesn't make them go away.
    But he knows that it then takes time to enforce that deadline.
    And that is all Giuliani is doing, just buying time.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Well, its not quite what you're looking for...but you can sue someone for wrongfully suing you.
    Let's add to that, that the judge can declare the whole thing stupid and sanction the lawyers. This feels like a valid risk, by the way, but Trump is well known to be out of smart and competent lawyers by now. All he has left is cannon fodder.

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    Do you even Chesebro? Yet another Trump ally loses their law license for doing what Trump told them to do.

    A state appeals court in New York on Thursday suspended Kenneth Chesebro, who struck a plea deal with prosecutors pursuing the 2020 election interference case against former President Donald Trump, from practicing law there.

    In a ruling Thursday, the court found that Chesebro's felony conviction in his criminal indictment in Fulton County, Georgia, over his efforts to overturn Trump's election loss in that state "categorically meets the definition of a serious crime in this state" and warranted the decision to bar him from practicing law in New York.

    His suspension was "effective immediately, and until further order" of the court, according to the ruling.

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    If there's one thing Trump is, it's hilarious. He makes up some of the funniest shit you've ever heard.

    For context, Trump was talking about the Panera lemonade that had like 10x the daily dose of caffeine and doctors said you could potentially die. Trump is saying that because there was no lemonade that killed people under his administration, his admin was better.
    2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
    2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post


    If there's one thing Trump is, it's hilarious. He makes up some of the funniest shit you've ever heard.
    If his intent was just to stay stupid nonsense… which, well, it is… why is he still targeting Biden with it?

    A lie is a lie whether he names Biden or Harris or Mickey Mouse as having committed… whatever it is he’s whining about.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

  7. #92427
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post


    If there's one thing Trump is, it's hilarious. He makes up some of the funniest shit you've ever heard.


    Big Cave Johnson energy.

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    We were promised a major October surprsie on Trump. What Was it!?!?
    The Generals calling him a fascist?
    Trump and his campaign being really racist in Madison Square Garden?
    Michael Wolff has 100 hours of Epstein tapes where he talks his sheningans with Trumps?







    /sarcasm
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  9. #92429
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    NEW: Trump Media recently outsourced jobs to Mexico
    I think you missed something lol.

  10. #92430
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    I think you missed something lol.
    Allow me;

    Trump Media Outsourced Jobs to Mexico Even as Trump Pushes “America First”

    On the campaign trail, Donald Trump threatened businesses that send jobs south of the border, while his own company that runs the Truth Social platform outsourced coding jobs to workers in Mexico, outraging some staff members.


    Lengthy report.
    “But this isn’t the end. I promise you, this is not the end, and we have to regroup and we have to continue to fight and continue to work day in and day out to create the better society for our children, for this world, for this country, that we know is possible.” ~~Jon Stewart

  11. #92431
    Quote Originally Posted by AntiFascistVoter View Post
    We were promised a major October surprsie on Trump. What Was it!?!?
    The Generals calling him a fascist?
    Trump and his campaign being really racist in Madison Square Garden?
    Michael Wolff has 100 hours of Epstein tapes where he talks his sheningans with Trumps?







    /sarcasm
    I know it is fake but the fact that the headline could easily be real with how he actively talked about his daughter.

    And The Onion used to go above and beyond to make their headlines outlandish.
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  12. #92432
    You can’t have an October surprise for Trump because his brand is all about being a horrible person. What can he possibly do that tops trying to overturn the election and inciting a deadly riot?

    You don’t beat him by pointing out his crimes and flaws. You beat him by getting the people who know this to show up and vote.

  13. #92433
    Hmm...Donald Trump Receives a Big Blow from Supreme Court Ahead of Elections

    Aw heck...the tl/dr dealo, Trump can be charged with obstruction after high court ruling, filing says...

    “In language that applies directly to the allegations here, the Supreme Court explained that [the obstruction statute]’s criminal prohibition includes ‘creating false evidence,’” namely “fraudulent electoral certificates,” prosecutors wrote in a nine-page answer to Trump’s motion to dismiss two of the four charges against him.

    In the high court’s 6-3 ruling this year, the majority said it was possible to violate the law “by creating false evidence — rather than altering incriminating evidence.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ecial-counsel/
    “But this isn’t the end. I promise you, this is not the end, and we have to regroup and we have to continue to fight and continue to work day in and day out to create the better society for our children, for this world, for this country, that we know is possible.” ~~Jon Stewart

  14. #92434
    An article from the Atlantic (the gift link should let you read it for free) about how so many different people got suckered into following Trump, for multiple reasons, and how the Puerto Rico joke broke that for some people:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...M0HX5KVT4ABn_s

    I think it's worth reading the whole thing, but some selected quotes:
    The first time Trump ran for president as a Republican, when I spoke with his followers I encountered a superficial denial of Trump’s prejudice that suggested a quiet approval of it. They would deny that Trump made bigoted remarks or proposed discriminatory policies while also defending those remarks and policies as necessary. What I found this time around were people who were far more deeply embedded in an unreality carefully molded by the Trump campaign and right-wing media to foment a sense of crisis—and a belief that they were being exploited by a shadowy conspiracy that Trump alone could vanquish. Whereas many supporters I spoke with at rallies in 2016 rationalized or dismissed Trump’s yarns as exaggerations or bombast, in 2024 they would repeat them solemnly and earnestly, as gospel.

    ...

    I noticed a particular disconnect on immigration; people I spoke with emphasized their support for legal immigration and, unlike Trump, did not single out particular ethnicities or nationalities for scorn. They said they would welcome anyone as long as they came legally. It’s possible that this was merely something they were telling themselves they believed so as not to interrogate their own motives further. ...One Trump voter I met among the cheerful crowd of supporters milling around outside a packed rally outside Atlanta, who identified himself only as Steve and said he worked in telecommunications, managed to touch on virtually every immigration conspiracy theory put forth by the Trump campaign in about 30 seconds. Yet even Steve told me the issue was people coming in illegally, not that they were coming in at all. “You’re not coming in legally; you’re not pledging to the country; you’re not saying you’re going to support that country,” Steve said. ...A retired English teacher who did not want to give her name emphasized that “I believe in immigration, but do it legally. Don’t make your first act of coming to America be coming illegally … We’re taking away from servicing children who don’t even get to eat because you’re giving housing to the people coming in.” Another retiree in North Carolina, named Theresa Paul, gave me a hard look and said she was supporting Trump because “when you take illegals over our citizens, that’s treason … We’re being worked to death, taxed to death, and for what? So we can put up people that’s coming in illegally, and putting them up way superior to us.” I asked her why she thought the Biden administration would want to do that. She grasped my arm lightly and said, “To replace us, right?”

    ...

    There are, I’ve come to see, three circles of MAGA that make up the Trump coalition. The innermost circle comprises the most loyal Trump allies, who wish to combine a traditional conservative agenda of gutting the welfare state and redistributing income upward while executing by force a radical social reengineering of America to resemble right-wing nostalgia of the 1950s. ...This faction wants a government that works to preserve traditional hierarchies of race, gender, and religion, or at least one that does not seek to interfere with what it sees as the natural order of things. ...These people understand what Trumpism’s goals are, and most of them also understand that, absent the particular devotion Trump inspires, their plans would not be politically viable.

    There is a second, slightly larger circle around this first one, comprising devoted Trump fans. These fans are the primary target for a sanitized version of the “Great Replacement” theory, which holds that American elites have conspired to dispossess them of what they have in order to give it to unauthorized immigrants who do not belong. They are not ideologically hostile to the welfare state—indeed, many of them value it—but they believe it is being wasted on those who have no claim to it. People in this circle are acting rationally in response to conspiracy theories they have chosen to believe, and are bewildered by those who refuse to acknowledge what they are certain is true. This bewilderment serves only to further cement their feeling that they are the victims of an elite plot to take from them that which they deserve. This is the group you might refer to as true believers.

    ...

    Then there is the outer circle: Americans with conservative beliefs who may be uneasy about Trump but whose identification with conservative principles and the Republican Party mean they wish to persuade themselves to vote for the Republican candidate. They may be ardently anti-abortion, or small-business owners, or deeply religious. They do not believe everything Trump says; in fact, their approach to the man is dismissiveness. These are voters who fall into what my colleague David Graham calls the “believability gap.” They don’t like Trump’s authoritarian rhetoric but also don’t think he will follow through with it. This is the “What’s the downside for humoring him?” faction.

    ...

    Denial is the mortar that holds the three MAGA circles together. The innermost circle denies the radicalism of its agenda to the middle ring of fervent Trump supporters, presenting any criticism as the lies of the same liberal elites responsible for dispossessing real Americans of what is owed them. The outer circle treats Trump’s authoritarianism and racism as regrettable and perhaps too colorful, but equivalent or similar to other common character defects possessed by all politicians. To acknowledge the liberal critique of Trump as correct would amount to a painful step away from a settled political identity that these outer-circle members are not willing to take—they would have to join the Never Trumpers in exile.

    ...

    “In social movements … conspiracy theories that may be absurd and specious on their face nevertheless contain valid information about the motivations, grievances, insecurities, and even panics among their promoters, so they cannot be simply dismissed,” the historian Linda Gordon wrote in The Second Coming of the KKK. “Among Klan leaders, conspiracy theories also did a great deal of organizing work: they provided identifiable and unifying targets, supplying a bonding function that explanations based on historical analyses do not deliver.” Political and national identities of any ideology can be forged by the sense that some part of your identity is under assault. When that assault does not truly exist, conspiracism can provide it.

    Trumpist conspiracy theories perform a similar function. In his stump speeches, the former president calls the United States an “occupied country” that will be “liberated” from criminal migrants when he retakes power. He tells his audience that crime by undocumented immigrants is not simply a social problem that might be solved with more restrictive immigration policy but a deliberate plan by those in office. “Kamala is importing millions of illegals across our borders and giving them taxpayer benefits at your expense,” Trump declared in Greenville. ...It is one of the most obvious con-man tricks in history—you got scammed, you paid too much, but if you give me your money, I’ll get you a better deal—and it has worked on tens of millions of Americans for a decade.

    These conspiracy theories create communities that are hostile to dissenters, and they legitimize radical, even violent actions. This is how thousands of Trump supporters ended up ransacking the Capital on January 6, 2021, hoping to overturn an election on the basis of a conspiracy theory about voting machines, spread by elite figures who knew it to be false. The Dominion lawsuit against Fox News and the congressional inquiry into January 6 revealed that although much of the right-wing leadership class understand they have created a monster they cannot control, they lack the courage to confront it. Trump and his closest aides, by contrast, are well aware of the hold they have on their audience and see it as useful for their own purposes.

    ...

    Perhaps most important, the breadth of the conspiracy and the power of the conspirators place any solutions beyond the reach of ordinary politics. At the rally prior to the storming of the Capitol, Trump warned the audience that “if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” Then he retreated to the safety of the White House and watched the mob attack Congress, hoping that by some miracle his supporters would succeed in keeping him in power by force. In such dire circumstances, only a messianic figure will rescue the virtuous from the corrupt. The logic of grand conspiracy thus elevates the strongman.

    In the conspiracist mind, Trump is not simply the only logical solution but the only hope, the only man not compromised by the grand cabal that opposes him and its puppet politicians.

    ...

    Typically, when I go out to rallies, I do not argue with voters or offer my own views, because I am there to find out what they believe and why. But because of my affiliation with The Atlantic, several people I spoke with asked me to explain my views—occasionally referring to the story as “fake news” or “Democrats calling Trump Hitler,” having heard the story wrongly characterized this way.

    In one exchange, I mentioned that as a man married to a woman born to a West African immigrant father, I did not appreciate Trump’s remarks about Black immigrants, and recounted the story of Trump complaining about not wanting immigrants from “shithole countries.” The Trump supporter had not heard of the 2018 incident and refused to believe that it had occurred as I relayed it.

    In two other conversations, when asked about my views, I explained that, as a Texan, if I choose to have another child, I have to worry that if something goes wrong, doctors may refuse to treat my wife because of the state’s abortion ban. Doctors in Texas are afraid to provide lifesaving medical care to mothers with pregnancy complications because the Republican-controlled state government has passed laws that punish abortion providers with steep fines, loss of their medical license, and jail time. The Texas courts have repeatedly refused to clarify or expand the exceptions to the ban—these exceptions are simply meant to ensure sufficient political support for those bans. Because of this, Texas parents have to roll the dice with a pregnancy, knowing that their existing children may end up without a mother.

    Not only did the people I spoke with react in disbelief that an abortion ban would be so strict; they did not believe that a doctor would refuse to treat a woman until she was at death’s door.

    ...

    There is a distance between the views of many of the most ardent Trump fans and the policy goals of the people they would put in power. The innermost MAGA circle understands this, even if many of the people whose votes they rely on don’t. ...Trump rallies are where the mask usually comes off. At the rallies, the different circles of MAGA lose their distinctiveness; in the anonymity and unity of the crowd, they can indulge the feelings of anger and hatred without the oversensitive, judgmental liberals of the outside world making them feel ashamed. Here, they can be themselves.

    This is why the insult comedian Tony Hinchcliffe thought he was in the right place to call Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage” at Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden in late October. “These are the kind of jokes that normal people tell,” the conservative media figure Matt Walsh declared. Hinchcliffe was hardly an outlier. Other speakers that night called Harris a prostitute, “the anti-Christ,” “the devil.” The disgraced former Fox News host Tucker Carlson mocked Harris as “the first Samoan Malaysian, low-IQ former California prosecutor ever to be elected president.”

    The big mistake made by Hinchcliffe was that, in wrestling parlance, he broke kayfabe. The Trump campaign has fine-tuned its line-stepping over the years, invoking racist stereotypes with just the thinnest veneer of deniability, the better to cast liberal criticism as hypersensitive hysteria. ...In 2024, Trumpism remains a politics of bullying marginalized groups and framing those unwilling to do so as possessing a lack of virtue. Do you want to coddle murderous illegal aliens? Do you want men in women’s sports? Why are you okay with gangs taking over our cities?

    ...

    The crisis caused by Hinchcliffe’s routine and remarks by other speakers that night is that they troubled voters in that outer MAGA circle by briefly revealing what Trump’s entourage actually believes—that when Stephen Miller says “America is for Americans and Americans only,” he is referring to a very limited number of people. The event pierced the veil of denial for those who are otherwise inclined to dismiss such criticisms as the tedious whining of an oversensitive age.

    The Puerto Rican Reggaeton singer Nicky Jam renounced his support for Trump after the rally, saying, “Never in my life did I think that a month [after I appeared at a rally to support Trump] a comedian was going to come to criticize my country and speak badly of my country and therefore, I renounce any support for Donald Trump, and I sidestep any political situation.” Those people who renounced their support for Trump after realizing that the contempt he has expressed for others also applies to people like them must understand: He was always talking about people like you, even when you didn’t want to believe it.
    Last edited by DarkTZeratul; 2024-11-05 at 12:38 AM.

  15. #92435
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    If his intent was just to stay stupid nonsense… which, well, it is… why is he still targeting Biden with it?
    He thinks he's running against Biden... or Obama... or Hillary... or whatever his stupid senile mind thinks in the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Allow me;

    Trump Media Outsourced Jobs to Mexico Even as Trump Pushes “America First”

    On the campaign trail, Donald Trump threatened businesses that send jobs south of the border, while his own company that runs the Truth Social platform outsourced coding jobs to workers in Mexico, outraging some staff members.


    Lengthy report.
    This isn't anything new. For years he's been ranting about China, while all his stupid merch is made there.
    tRump doesn't think much of his supporters and they're too dumb to notice.

  16. #92436
    Trump Media, which is experienced a flurry of trading activity Tuesday as a possible proxy for Donald Trump’s presidency chances, revealed after the closing bell a loss for the third quarter along with a slight drop in already meager revenue.

    The Truth Social parent lost $19.2 million during the period while revenue fell 5.6% to just $1.01 million from the year-earlier period. The filing was not telegraphed to investors beforehand and came as a surprise to traders not expecting it on Election Day, the very day the former President and Trump Media majority owner squares off against Vice President Kamala Harris.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/05/trum...g-reveals.html

    Of course he drops the news that his social media company run by a former politician is still losing money and in no way, shape, or form justifying its valuation on election day when the hope is that he'll win and that will offset the fact that his social media company appears to be non-functional without any plans to ever make any money.

  17. #92437
    Well there goes all his criminal charges. ALL gone.

    Can't wait to see what he does with those shiny new powers Supreme Court gave him that Biden never tried to use.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

  18. #92438
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Well there goes all his criminal charges. ALL gone.

    Can't wait to see what he does with those shiny new powers Supreme Court gave him that Biden never tried to use.
    i'll reiterate: I hope someone shits in garlands mailbox every day for the rest of his life. and his toilet tank, too. permanent upper deckers

  19. #92439
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Well there goes all his criminal charges. ALL gone.

    Can't wait to see what he does with those shiny new powers Supreme Court gave him that Biden never tried to use.
    That orange wanker will die and he will have gotten away with everything. Nice message to send to future presidents, what could go wrong.

  20. #92440
    Quote Originally Posted by noremorze View Post
    That orange wanker will die and he will have gotten away with everything. Nice message to send to future presidents, what could go wrong.
    Honestly, it was always an issue with a sitting President that they could pretty much get away with anything and everything as they cannot be actively prosecuted while in office. The biggest thing is the SC officially stated that they cannot be charged with a crime that would be considered an official act of the office instead of it being a DoJ policy. The problem is, especially with the stuff he was being charged with, the courts actively are extremely slow. And I do mean slow. Most cases, even small criminal cases, don't get a resolution for many months to years. I have an ex that was charged with violating her probation. It took 2 years for her to be arrested, charged with violating her probation and going through the courts to be finally resolved. And that was for a simple probation violation charge with someone who has no money. Someone with money and the ability to hire a team of lawyers like Trump can easily drag out a case for a decade or greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    i'll reiterate: I hope someone shits in garlands mailbox every day for the rest of his life. and his toilet tank, too. permanent upper deckers
    Hey, don't worry. Your "favorite" representative Elise Stefanik also won reelection. So you'll have the ability to look forward to that too.

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