Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Thepersona]

This may not make anyone feel better, but Trump was never, ever going to suffer any real consequences for his crimes. Even if he was found guilty for everything. At worst he would have spent his remaining years grifting and playing golf. However, it's entirely likely he's currently going down the same road as his father. It's very likely torturing him right now because he absolutely knows it's happening and how much worse it will get.

This is unfortunately a fact of life. There are many, many bad people alive right now and throughout history that never (or too late to matter) suffered consequences for their actions. The good guy doesn't always win. From the big bads like Putin to your local serial killer that will never get caught.

Pinochet died free, for example

[Logwyn]

This may not make anyone feel better, but Trump was never, ever going to suffer any real consequences for his crimes. Even if he was found guilty for everything. At worst he would have spent his remaining years grifting and playing golf. However, it's entirely likely he's currently going down the same road as his father. It's very likely torturing him right now because he absolutely knows it's happening and how much worse it will get.

This is unfortunately a fact of life. There are many, many bad people alive right now and throughout history that never (or too late to matter) suffered consequences for their actions. The good guy doesn't always win. From the big bads like Putin to your local serial killer that will never get caught.

The office of the President is not open for any and every criminal to fill now. Conviction of a felnoy? Well you can't teach kids BUT you can be President!

[gondrin]

I hope you are ready for the crypto invasion, we are going to be swimming in even more grifts regulations are going bye bye.

I mean, go ahead. Outside of some banking things, there is very little regulation around it anyway as most of it isn't based in the US. I don't invest in crypto and a lot of people I know already think it is a scam.

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BREAKING: Special counsel Jack Smith is in active talks with senior leadership at the Justice Department evaluating ways he can end his prosecutions of President-elect Donald Trump, sources familiar with the matter told

Well its over. Fuck it.



I mean the most pussy excuse to drop charges but they weren't going anywhere. I guess have the balls to say that Trump will force the charges to be dropped. But like Garland seems Jack Smith is that company man who wants to get a job somewhere.

The problem is, since Trump will be President, a sitting President cannot be prosecuted while in office. The problem being is if they were to be incarcerated, they would still be a sitting President and still have to fulfill all of their duties as President from whatever jail cell they are in. And unless they actively step down, the 25th Amendment wouldn't come into play as it has to be a voluntary release from duties(like what happens when a President goes in for surgery) or a forced one where the VP and the executive cabinet removes the President because they are unfit for duty. That is the whole justification for why the DoJ won't bring charges against a current sitting President.

I mean, they could put him in a military jail cell but they would still need access to special rooms to deal with sensitive or otherwise classified information. It would literally be a jail that allows him the freedom to move around and leave when needed. Which pretty much defeats the idea behind incarceration as a form of punishment to begin with.

Unless the US Constitution is changed(and I've talked about this before) to basically state that if a sitting President commits a high crime(this would have to be defined in very specific terms or it will be abused by an opposing party), they are automatically removed from office and the VP takes over.

Also, he cannot force his state level or civil charges to be dropped as he would still have to deal with them. The only part is that he wouldn't go to jail over them and the fines already levied against him can still be collected on his personal property since those judgements were already rendered way before he became a sitting President.

[username993720]

Do you, guys, think now that Trump is elected, we will see the decline of woke culture taking over everything and terrorism support waning?

Just curious.

[Surfd]

Do you, guys, think now that Trump is elected, we will see the decline of woke culture taking over everything and terrorism support waning?

You'd have to properly define "woke culture" before any of us would even consider answering such an astoundingly inane question.

[SAY HER NAME]

Do you, guys, think now that Trump is elected, we will see the decline of woke culture taking over everything and terrorism support waning?

Just curious.

Nah if anything woke culture will get even better

Trump is a great foil to culture war stuff. Remember 2017 and the resist lib movement. Its going to be that but even better

[Endus]

You'd have to properly define "woke culture" before any of us would even consider answering such an astoundingly inane question.

Really, we just need to quote Godwin's Second Law;

[Dontrike]

Do you, guys, think now that Trump is elected, we will see the decline of woke culture taking over everything and terrorism support waning?

Just curious.

Even for a T this is fucking stupid.

[PhaelixWW]

Even for a T this is fucking stupid.

Four more years (at least) of the most vicious gaslighting imaginable.

[gondrin]

Even for a T this is fucking stupid.

Nobody that complains about "woke" culture ever tells me an actual definition of what they think it means.

Remember all, the first rule about communicating is having a common definition for terms. Otherwise, we might as well as reenact the Star Trek: TNG episode Darmok.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Seriously, can't they just assign it to a council that the DoJ has no direct control over? I mean the courts will dismiss it regardless but they can't even try and continue it?

Why bother if it's going to be shut down regardless? It's just throwing more money away on a case that will never be made. We just have to accept that Donald Trump is above the law.

[diller]

Do you, guys, think now that Trump is elected, we will see the decline of woke culture taking over everything and terrorism support waning?

Just curious.

Didn't know Asmongold had an account here.

[Gabriel]

So RFK Jr wants the US to be flooded with unregulated and untested drugs.

FDA stands in the way of progress, my friend.

[username993720]

You'd have to properly define "woke culture" before any of us would even consider answering such an astoundingly inane question.

Oh, come on, everybody knows what it is. Don't act so naive.

Even for a T this is fucking stupid.

I aint trolling.
Genuinely curious.

Nobody that complains about "woke" culture ever tells me an actual definition of what they think it means.

Remember all, the first rule about communicating is having a common definition for terms. Otherwise, we might as well as reenact the Star Trek: TNG episode Darmok.

The agenda pushing for minorities, women, LGBTQ, etc...
It's not that hard.

Didn't know Asmongold had an account here.

Not him.
But, like him, i share his concern for the gaming, film and TV industries being ruined by this ideology, in addition to campuses and media being taken over by terrorist supporters.

[Marfrilau]

The agenda pushing for minorities, women, LGBTQ, etc...
It's not that hard.

The agenda to push for these minorities to have the same rights as everyone else? That agenda? That push will obviously stop when they have the same rights as everyone else. Now explain why you think that agenda should not be achieved.

[gondrin]

Oh, come on, everybody knows what it is. Don't act so naive.



I aint trolling.
Genuinely curious.



The agenda pushing for minorities, women, LGBTQ, etc...
It's not that hard.



Not him.
But, like him, i share his concern for the gaming, film and TV industries being ruined by this ideology, in addition to campuses and media being taken over by terrorist supporters.

Ok, define what agenda is being talked about. To have equal rights? To have more rights than others? To have equal representation in media? To have more representation in media? To just exist? Because if it is about equal rights for all people, then "woke" culture is a damn good thing to have. And if anyone thinks people shouldn't have the same rights because they are gay, trans, black, white, female, male, believe in a deity or not or from another star, that person is nothing more than a bigot and should be treated as such.

Once again, you need to define the terms you are using so people understand what you are saying. Agenda is a nebulous term. It could mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. I cannot read your mind or hear your intention behind what you are putting out there so you actively need to define what you think these terms mean to you. There is such a thing as "speaking the same language and not understanding each other".

The problem is that people who hate "woke" culture think that someone else getting the same rights as them is taking away from themselves. It isn't a zero-sum game. Someone else getting the right to do something doesn't take away the right of someone else. They can still be the same assholes as before. They just can no longer punish someone for having those rights.

As I said in my last post, we might as well as cosplay the episode Darmok from TNG because that is about as clear of communication that some people are bringing forward.

[alach]

The agenda pushing for minorities, women, LGBTQ, etc...
It's not that hard.

And this, my fellow mmo-champions, is a shining example of the type of person just elected to lead the most powerful country on earth, by half of the like-minded population.
If you are one of those people, please take a moment to reflect. Is keeping others down the only way you can feel up?

[gondrin]

And this, my fellow mmo-champions, is a shining example of the type of person just elected to lead the most powerful country on earth, by half of the like-minded population.
If you are one of those people, please take a moment to reflect. Is keeping others down the only way you can feel up?

That is the thing here. They refuse to define what they mean by "woke" culture because a lot of the times, they just mean they don't want to see gay, trans or any other minority in the media that they consume and if it is in there, it is pushing the idea that they must agree with it. They refuse to define it because their definition is literally them coming out and saying "Hello. I am a massive bigot that hates people who are different than me in one way or the other to get the same rights and chances I do."

[PhaelixWW]

They refuse to define it because their definition is literally them coming out and saying "Hello. I am a massive bigot that hates people who are different than me in one way or the other to get the same rights and chances I do."

Yeah, well, get used to the next four years of people flying their hate flag high. We may just find out that 2017-2021 was just them dipping their toe in the water, so to speak.

[gondrin]

Yeah, well, get used to the next four years of people flying their hate flag high. We may just find out that 2017-2021 was just them dipping their toe in the water, so to speak.

Oh, I've have worked around plenty of people like that for a good part of my working life. Anymore, I either call them out on it and let whatever happens(usually if it is something extremely racist, sexist or bigoted) or stay away from them and tell others what they are like. Figure if enough people ignore them, they will get the hint that their viewpoints are not welcome and either keep them to themselves or go somewhere else.