Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Doomcookie]

Thanks for agreeing with me?

I never said it was good/bad, only that I think that's what their approach will be and the majority of Americans are currently fed up with trying to be world police.

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Huh? I'm trying to tell you the silver lining is that Trump is lazy/incompetent and will likely fail on hitting on all his promises and this is your reply?

And you wonder why the Dems lost the last election. They've been reduced to nothing more than a local political party in places like CA, NY and IL. Great work everyone.

Then, why did you support him? Was it the fascism, or the incompetence?

[En Sabah Nur]

Trump is lazy/incompetent

The issue with this thinking is that you forget there is an entire government under Trump that isn't lazy. The people he'll give jobs to will get things done for him, or in spite of him. We all know how easily manipulated Trump is. It won't take much for them to get what they want done.

[NED funded]

NYT: Organized labor is going to suffer setbacks against Trump.

Mr. Biden fired the agency’s general counsel shortly after taking office and installed a replacement more in sync with his priorities. Mr. Trump is likely to do the same, which would mean ousting Jennifer Abruzzo, who has aggressively wielded the powers of her office on behalf of workers seeking to unionize.

Ms. Abruzzo has sought increased financial remedies for workers who were fired for organizing, and has taken action against companies for holding mandatory meetings that highlight the downsides of unionizing.
If Mr. Trump’s first term is a guide, his appointee as general counsel will probably adopt an approach that makes it harder for union campaigns to succeed. His appointees to the labor board will probably reverse Biden-era rulings on high-profile issues, including one allowing the board to order recognition of a union if the employer makes a fair election impossible, such as by firing workers who seek to unionize.

Too early to tell but be prepared for labour to have a setback

[Paranoid Android]

Any Republican Senator seeking the coveted LEADERSHIP position in the United States Senate must agree to Recess Appointments (in the Senate!), without which we will not be able to get people confirmed in a timely manner. Sometimes the votes can take two years, or more. This is what they did four years ago, and we cannot let it happen again. We need positions filled IMMEDIATELY! Additionally, no Judges should be approved during this period of time because the Democrats are looking to ram through their Judges as the Republicans fight over Leadership. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. THANK YOU!

Oh shit Trump tweeting policy on Twitter again. Here of course me starting to react to all these tweets. FML

So yeah this is what he tried to attempt and succeed at end of his Presidency. Basically don't want the process of vetting his appointees even though Republicans would rubber stamp 53-47(?).

[Flarelaine]

@Breccia Apparently your whore of a rep will not be your whore of a rep much longer. She will be everyone's, as in America's, in the UN.

Trump offers Rep. Elise Stefanik role of UN ambassador, sources say

[DarkTZeratul]

@Breccia Apparently your whore of a rep will not be your whore of a rep much longer. She will be everyone's, as in America's, in the UN.

Trump offers Rep. Elise Stefanik role of UN ambassador, sources say

Probably good news for everyone, as there's frankly very little she can fuck up in that position.

Also a really stupid fucking choice by Donald Trump, because she'd have to resign the seat she JUST WON to take it. And even though New York would hold a special election to fill it, rather than appointing a successor, that would take time. Time during which the Republicans - who will have a narrow majority, if they even have a majority at all - will be down a seat in the House.

[Flarelaine]

Probably good news for everyone, as there's frankly very little she can fuck up in that position.

Also a really stupid fucking choice by Donald Trump, because she'd have to resign the seat she JUST WON to take it. And even though New York would hold a special election to fill it, rather than appointing a successor, that would take time. Time during which the Republicans - who will have a narrow majority, if they even have a majority at all - will be down a seat in the House.

Eh, she won her last three races with +14, +17 and +19 (in that order). This year's results are not up yet but I find it safe to assume it's +20 or more. So while there will be a special election (and yes, Trump is dumb as usual about it) the seat is pretty much safe red.

[PhaelixWW]

Eh, she won her last three races with +14, +17 and +19 (in that order). This year's results are not up yet but I find it safe to assume it's +20 or more. So while there will be a special election (and yes, Trump is dumb as usual about it) the seat is pretty much safe red.

It's +24.5 with an estimated 98% of votes counted, so that's a pretty safe assumption.

[Flarelaine]

It's +24.5 with an estimated 98% of votes counted, so that's a pretty safe assumption.

Thank you. I did not dig deep, just checked Wiki for results.

Upon reflection, this move kinda entrenches the GOP as a sausage party. Stefanik was one of very few women in a leadership position and while UN ambassador may be prestigious, she is still being sidelined.

[Breccia]

Apparently your whore of a rep will not be your whore of a rep much longer.

At least she's not VP. Having her leave the country isn't the worst, either.

Nobody's bothered to run against her recently, there's been no point. At least her replacement is likely to be incompetent, meaning there's real hope of a 2026 or 2028 eviction.

[D3thray]

And have we forgotten the literal concentration camps?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ilities-trump/

Calling them some other euphemism is just a coat of paint. "Concentration camps" was itself a coat of paint. If you're detaining people and putting them into a central housing location while they're processed, you're "concentrating" them in a "camp". Stop playing silly buggers with words when it's the facts of what you're literally doing that are the problem. It doesn't matter what you call them. They're still concentration camps.

The Nazi death camps started out just gathering people up for deportation too.

So… jails are concentration camps? Gotta love the dishonest framing.

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Family Separation policy would like a FUCKING WORD WITH YOU, Jesus fucking christ you are fucking ignorant.

That was Obama but nice try

[Shadowferal]

S That was Obama but nice try

Trump administration family separation policy

Family separations began in the summer of 2017, prior to the public announcement of the "zero tolerance" policy in April 2018. The policy was officially adopted across the entire US–Mexico border from April 2018 until June 2018. The practice of family separation continued for at least eighteen months after the policy's official end, with an estimated 1,100 families separated between June 2018 and the end of 2019. In total, more than 5,500 children, including infants, were separated from their families.

By early June 2018, it emerged that the policy did not include measures to reunite the families that it had separated. Scott Lloyd, director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, had directed his staff not to maintain a list of children who had been separated from their parents. Matthew Albence, head of enforcement and removal operations for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, had told his colleagues to prevent reunification even after the parents had been processed by the judicial system, saying that reunification "undermines the entire effort."

[Xyonai]

oh god we're back to arguing the semantics of the Child Separation policy (I'm on team: It's fucking abhorrent and righties smugly deflecting that it was an 'Obama Idea' are just trying to handwash themselves of any guilt by association or are utterly incapable of grasping the difference between 'Temporary Detention' and 'Oops, we lost ten thousand children!'). Time really is just a flat circle.

[En Sabah Nur]

Probably posted before, but I'm going to do so again...

What Trump’s Win Means for Education

Imagine celebrating all this. Basically further makes schools a pipeline to mass amounts of uneducated laborers while also taking away rights from people. I'm sure something about child labor laws will see an update soon, too.

Hopefully someone can explain how all of this is a good thing.

[Endus]

So… jails are concentration camps? Gotta love the dishonest framing.

In many cases, yes. Which is why they are sometimes called "prison camps".

You're so focused on the specific language that you can't even see what those words mean, in practice.

[Aphelios]

America is winning again!

[Draco-Onis]

oh god we're back to arguing the semantics of the Child Separation policy (I'm on team: It's fucking abhorrent and righties smugly deflecting that it was an 'Obama Idea' are just trying to handwash themselves of any guilt by association or are utterly incapable of grasping the difference between 'Temporary Detention' and 'Oops, we lost ten thousand children!'). Time really is just a flat circle.

According to Trump's new border Czar there won't be any child separation as they are going to be deporting naturalized children born in the US if their parents are illegal immigrants to their concentration camps.

[Somewhatconcerned]

According to Trump's new border Czar there won't be any child separation as they are going to be deporting naturalized children born in the US if their parents are illegal immigrants to their concentration camps.

Fun fact, Homan was initially an Obama appointee. And he even gave him some sort of award, too.

FWIW, Homan was on 60 minutes and specifically said there would be no "camps." FWIW.

I do think they will just try to speed up the deportation process. How, I'm not sure.

[Doomcookie]

Fun fact, Homan was initially an Obama appointee. And he even gave him some sort of award, too.

FWIW, Homan was on 60 minutes and specifically said there would be no "camps." FWIW.

I do think they will just try to speed up the deportation process. How, I'm not sure.

Trump supporters have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted. You are a perfect example.

[Edge-]

FWIW, Homan was on 60 minutes and specifically said there would be no "camps." FWIW.

After years of Donald and those around him repeatedly lying, here you are giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Honestly this kind of thing does go a long way in explaining why so many people voted for him.