Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PhaelixWW]

I mean, he's been vying for that exact position since he started more vocally standing behind Trump (You can tell it's his idea because it's named after a dated meme).

Elon Musk's Twitter sockpuppet account is DogeDesigner.

[Blur4stuff]

It's going to take decades to fix the upcoming clusterfuck.

[Grinning Serpent]

It's going to take decades to fix the upcoming clusterfuck.

I'm less optimistic. I don't think there will be fixing this. Unless we are insanely lucky and Trump 2's Congress is as incompetent as Trump 1's was, they are going to destroy what we think of as America.

People really, *really* just did not and still probably don't grasp how fucking dangerous this is. This isn't going to be a clown show like Trump 1 was.

[PhaelixWW]

I'm less optimistic. I don't think there will be fixing this.

Anything is fixable, as long as legitimate elections continue.

[Fugus]

I'm less optimistic. I don't think there will be fixing this. Unless we are insanely lucky and Trump 2's Congress is as incompetent as Trump 1's was, they are going to destroy what we think of as America.

People really, *really* just did not and still probably don't grasp how fucking dangerous this is. This isn't going to be a clown show like Trump 1 was.

From what I read, his Tariffs are estimated to fixable but under ideal situations its estimated to take 15 years just to clean it up. Not even to improve things, just to get back to here.

So, while things will likely be fixable, overall not withing most of our life times unless you are pretty young and even then not entirely likely.

Unless he destabilizes us to the point we are dumped as the worlds reserve currency, then we are fucked in a way that we will never recover from. Whatever becomes the new standard after that would have to destabilize just as bad or a lot longer to make them think of dumping them at which point we would still be the last on that list of new candidates. And all the influence and stability that reserve currency has given us will be gone forever.

Honestly been looking at banks that handle international banking so I can hopefully get out of here when my dad no longer needs me just so I don't have to deal with the mess and the stupidity anymore. The biggest issue I have is, even near Fort Liberty, any good international banking institution largely isn't around here except Navy Federal and they offer dog shit interest rates at best.

Planning on going for a passport book in the future too when I get time. Figure they are valid for 10 years so good chance I will be able to at least visit places to see before then.

[Corvus]

It's going to take decades to fix the upcoming clusterfuck.

It won't be by accident either - it will be by design. They want to burn everything to the ground so they can rebuild it as a dystopia nightmare.

[Kaleredar]

President-elect Trump picks former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee to be the U.S. ambassador to Israel.

Hmm? I guess a ultra Christian zionist is a better pick than anyone. I did expect someone different. Surprising somewhat, I was expecting the person who openly was calling for taking of West Bank, removal of Palestine people, taking land, etc. Idk if Huckabee openly spoke this hardcore, but I expect he is hardcore.

Edit: News sources reporting that Huckabee is full in on annexation, etc.

Dang, I'm sure all of those people who were angry that Harris wasn't going doing enough to criticize Israel and so abstained from voting for her are glad that... *checks notes* Israel is now in a better place to destroy Palestine with impunity and without restraint than ever.

...But they sure showed her! Harris will definitely suffer immensely from this! Sure Palestine might see untold suffering and devastation, but Harris will *checks notes* ...retire as a wealthy, well-connected politician.

But remember, the important thing remains: Harris didn't get to be President. And at the end of the day in this terrible, horrible, fucked up Palestine-Israel situation, isn't that's just what's the most important?

[Somewhatconcerned]

Anything is fixable, as long as legitimate elections continue.

You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.

I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now. Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.

As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.

[Doomcookie]

You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.

I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now. Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.

As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.

How is that worse than being a rapist?

[PhaelixWW]

You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.

Hahahaha, no.

I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now.

Because that's a bunch of codswallop. It's like you conveniently forget the election just a week ago. The GoP only has a narrow margin in both House and Senate, and the swing state margins weren't wild, either. You're acting like it was a landslide, but it wasn't.

Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.

Hahahaha, no.

As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.

Elon finds a way to break things. That'll be on even bigger display than before.

[Xyonai]

You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.

I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now. Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.

As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.

I really don't have any comments about Musk or Vivek's compotency that won't border on simply me typing out every pejorative swear word I know; so I'll just say they'll be absolutely useless and if Elon runs things like he Runs twitter, our government will be in shambles held aloft by goons.

As for the other point: If Trump's set to absolutely crater the Economy to the degree anyone who can do math believes he will, then it won't even matter who Democrats run, the populace will - again - see shit's more expensive and blame the ruling party and kick them out for whoever's not them. That is to say, I don't think Dems are so doomed that there's not a reasonable future where they claw back the levers of power from the Republicans after their shitty economic policies once again have the obvious effects.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Hahahaha, no.



Because that's a bunch of codswallop. It's like you conveniently forget the election just a week ago. The GoP only has a narrow margin in both House and Senate, and the swing state margins weren't wild, either. You're acting like it was a landslide, but it wasn't.



Hahahaha, no.



Elon finds a way to break things. That'll be on even bigger display than before.

It will be fully transparent!

I mean at the least it will be entertaining. Take a clue from one of the few successful Dems in CO governor Polis - he says a lot of their success is in minimizing unnecessary regulations and reducing the time it takes for govt to get stuff done for people.

Not all regulations are bad. Some are absolutely needed. It's not a bad thing to have a review. Honestly, Dems could have EASILY done something like this and scored MAJOR points with everyone.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856520760656797801

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I really don't have any comments about Musk or Vivek's compotency that won't border on simply me typing out every pejorative swear word I know; so I'll just say they'll be absolutely useless and if Elon runs things like he Runs twitter, our government will be in shambles held aloft by goons.

As for the other point: If Trump's set to absolutely crater the Economy to the degree anyone who can do math believes he will, then it won't even matter who Democrats run, the populace will - again - see shit's more expensive and blame the ruling party and kick them out for whoever's not them. That is to say, I don't think Dems are so doomed that there's not a reasonable future where they claw back the levers of power from the Republicans after their shitty economic policies once again have the obvious effects.

Like X is in shambles after he cut 90% of staff? Didn't seem to change much.

[Edge-]

Like X is in shambles after he cut 90% of staff? Didn't seem to change much.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/busin...ity/index.html

Yes, losing 80% of the the value of the price that he paid for it is a platform in shambles, lol. What do you call losing 80% of the value of your investment?

[PhaelixWW]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/busin...ity/index.html

Yes, losing 80% of the the value of the price that he paid for it is a platform in shambles, lol. What do you call losing 80% of the value of your investment?

And I'm pretty sure that 80% of their salary payouts is a much, much, much smaller number than 80% of the company's value.

[Jastall]

It will be fully transparent!

I mean at the least it will be entertaining.

You shouldn't want your politics to be entertaining, unless you're more interested in the direction of your nation as a dumb spectator sport to be partisan over than as something which shapes the life of you and all your countrymen in greater or lesser ways.

[Flaks]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/busin...ity/index.html

Yes, losing 80% of the the value of the price that he paid for it is a platform in shambles, lol. What do you call losing 80% of the value of your investment?

I call it one of the most successful business ventures probably in my years alive.

He quite literally bought THE MOST EFFECTIVE pieces of communication out there. And has somehow kept it just as effective as it was while losing "80% of it's value".

Despite all the online echo chambers, X is the go to for intellectual exchange (I wish I was joking but it's literally a near requirement to publicize your publications/hard hitting articles even moreso than just getting published in JAMA or NEJM as an oncologist).

Posting on X is the most effective way to make your voice heard if you have a grievance with any product you buy even now.

If anything, Elon really has shown that Twitter was probably too bloated and that even with a supposed skeleton crew it can keep doing what it was doing while also being able to adjust the narrative to his liking.

And he has so many different grifts that he could lose 99.999% of his $44 billion dollar investment and still come out significantly richer.

All this election should tell you is we're all getting what's coming for us probably a little sooner than we thought. I do firmly believe that a Kamala win would still have kept us on the same trajectory just a little more delayed.

[Elenos]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/busin...ity/index.html

Yes, losing 80% of the the value of the price that he paid for it is a platform in shambles, lol. What do you call losing 80% of the value of your investment?

He didn't do it for the money.

[Kaleredar]

He didn't do it for the money.

Pretty shit way to run a business, then.

Regardless, no social media app lasts forever. Most pass into obscurity like Myspace or friendster or whatever, not as many are outright killed by colossal incompetence by a self-aggrandizing, self-deluded manchild.

[Grinning Serpent]

Anything is fixable, as long as legitimate elections continue.

That's exactly what I mean. I don't think there will be legitimate elections in 2028. We know that Trump fawns over Putin and Winnie and thinks of them as strong men. We also know that Putin regularly suppresses and oppresses his rivals, and the ones that are allowed through are paper tigers, there only to give the illusion of competition.

Why would Project 2025/Agenda 47/whatever the fuck it's called now threaten its reign by allowing people to vote them out of power?

[fwc577]

but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years

LOL. Look at this joker.

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Despite all the online echo chambers, X is the go to for intellectual exchange

LOL, Another comedian!

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He didn't do it for the money.

What he do it for? The nookie?