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    Trump is saying that we are going to take Federal Land and turn it into cities....Where we gonna get the money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Trump is saying that we are going to take Federal Land and turn it into cities....Where we gonna get the money?
    Cities run and operated by members of the federal government? Is anyone even considering things like "How will we ensure they have access to utilities like water and electricity"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Trump is saying that we are going to take Federal Land and turn it into cities....Where we gonna get the money?
    that's not really the plan he is simply handing out federal land to his private cronies for development and oil exploration to their heart's desires. The odds of Trump building new cities are basically nil.

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    Elon and Vivek are being officially put in charge of the 'Department of Government Efficiency', as per this statement:

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    Elon in charge of DOGE?

    Is this April 1st?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Elon in charge of DOGE?

    Is this April 1st?
    I mean, he's been vying for that exact position since he started more vocally standing behind Trump (You can tell it's his idea because it's named after a dated meme). The only real not-surprise is that Vivek's on board, but I guess the best people to run a Federal Grift are two prolific Grifters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Elon in charge of DOGE?

    Is this April 1st?
    Leon is so fucking stoked he gets to troll and shitpost from the White House, now.

    Though I'm curious if either would ever allow themselves to become federal employees subject to oversight, transparency, and IG investigations. I can't imagine either, especially Leon, would ever allow themselves to be "limited" by something like transparency and accountability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I mean, he's been vying for that exact position since he started more vocally standing behind Trump (You can tell it's his idea because it's named after a dated meme).
    Elon Musk's Twitter sockpuppet account is DogeDesigner.
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    It's going to take decades to fix the upcoming clusterfuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    It's going to take decades to fix the upcoming clusterfuck.
    I'm less optimistic. I don't think there will be fixing this. Unless we are insanely lucky and Trump 2's Congress is as incompetent as Trump 1's was, they are going to destroy what we think of as America.

    People really, *really* just did not and still probably don't grasp how fucking dangerous this is. This isn't going to be a clown show like Trump 1 was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinning Serpent View Post
    I'm less optimistic. I don't think there will be fixing this.
    Anything is fixable, as long as legitimate elections continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinning Serpent View Post
    I'm less optimistic. I don't think there will be fixing this. Unless we are insanely lucky and Trump 2's Congress is as incompetent as Trump 1's was, they are going to destroy what we think of as America.

    People really, *really* just did not and still probably don't grasp how fucking dangerous this is. This isn't going to be a clown show like Trump 1 was.
    From what I read, his Tariffs are estimated to fixable but under ideal situations its estimated to take 15 years just to clean it up. Not even to improve things, just to get back to here.

    So, while things will likely be fixable, overall not withing most of our life times unless you are pretty young and even then not entirely likely.

    Unless he destabilizes us to the point we are dumped as the worlds reserve currency, then we are fucked in a way that we will never recover from. Whatever becomes the new standard after that would have to destabilize just as bad or a lot longer to make them think of dumping them at which point we would still be the last on that list of new candidates. And all the influence and stability that reserve currency has given us will be gone forever.

    Honestly been looking at banks that handle international banking so I can hopefully get out of here when my dad no longer needs me just so I don't have to deal with the mess and the stupidity anymore. The biggest issue I have is, even near Fort Liberty, any good international banking institution largely isn't around here except Navy Federal and they offer dog shit interest rates at best.

    Planning on going for a passport book in the future too when I get time. Figure they are valid for 10 years so good chance I will be able to at least visit places to see before then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    It's going to take decades to fix the upcoming clusterfuck.
    It won't be by accident either - it will be by design. They want to burn everything to the ground so they can rebuild it as a dystopia nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    President-elect Trump picks former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee to be the U.S. ambassador to Israel.

    Hmm? I guess a ultra Christian zionist is a better pick than anyone. I did expect someone different. Surprising somewhat, I was expecting the person who openly was calling for taking of West Bank, removal of Palestine people, taking land, etc. Idk if Huckabee openly spoke this hardcore, but I expect he is hardcore.

    Edit: News sources reporting that Huckabee is full in on annexation, etc.
    Dang, I'm sure all of those people who were angry that Harris wasn't going doing enough to criticize Israel and so abstained from voting for her are glad that... *checks notes* Israel is now in a better place to destroy Palestine with impunity and without restraint than ever.

    ...But they sure showed her! Harris will definitely suffer immensely from this! Sure Palestine might see untold suffering and devastation, but Harris will *checks notes* ...retire as a wealthy, well-connected politician.

    But remember, the important thing remains: Harris didn't get to be President. And at the end of the day in this terrible, horrible, fucked up Palestine-Israel situation, isn't that's just what's the most important?
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Anything is fixable, as long as legitimate elections continue.
    You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.

    I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now. Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.

    As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.

    I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now. Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.

    As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.
    How is that worse than being a rapist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.
    Hahahaha, no.


    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now.
    Because that's a bunch of codswallop. It's like you conveniently forget the election just a week ago. The GoP only has a narrow margin in both House and Senate, and the swing state margins weren't wild, either. You're acting like it was a landslide, but it wasn't.


    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.
    Hahahaha, no.


    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.
    Elon finds a way to break things. That'll be on even bigger display than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    You assume the Democrats will even have a viable candidate or message ready in time. They are impotent for at least another couple of cycles.

    I don't think you realize just how toxic the Dem brand is right now. Trump likely will deliver on very few of his promises...but if it's at least a relatively stable/even 4 years, then Vance or whomever gets comfortably elected. This country is done with Democrats for the time being.

    As far as DOGE goes....c'mon, be honest. Aren't you all at least a LITTLE bit curious what they'll find? I've always wanted someone to take a deep dive into the inner workings...my guess is it's layers upon layers of useless stuff.
    I really don't have any comments about Musk or Vivek's compotency that won't border on simply me typing out every pejorative swear word I know; so I'll just say they'll be absolutely useless and if Elon runs things like he Runs twitter, our government will be in shambles held aloft by goons.

    As for the other point: If Trump's set to absolutely crater the Economy to the degree anyone who can do math believes he will, then it won't even matter who Democrats run, the populace will - again - see shit's more expensive and blame the ruling party and kick them out for whoever's not them. That is to say, I don't think Dems are so doomed that there's not a reasonable future where they claw back the levers of power from the Republicans after their shitty economic policies once again have the obvious effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Hahahaha, no.



    Because that's a bunch of codswallop. It's like you conveniently forget the election just a week ago. The GoP only has a narrow margin in both House and Senate, and the swing state margins weren't wild, either. You're acting like it was a landslide, but it wasn't.



    Hahahaha, no.



    Elon finds a way to break things. That'll be on even bigger display than before.
    It will be fully transparent!

    I mean at the least it will be entertaining. Take a clue from one of the few successful Dems in CO governor Polis - he says a lot of their success is in minimizing unnecessary regulations and reducing the time it takes for govt to get stuff done for people.

    Not all regulations are bad. Some are absolutely needed. It's not a bad thing to have a review. Honestly, Dems could have EASILY done something like this and scored MAJOR points with everyone.

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856520760656797801

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I really don't have any comments about Musk or Vivek's compotency that won't border on simply me typing out every pejorative swear word I know; so I'll just say they'll be absolutely useless and if Elon runs things like he Runs twitter, our government will be in shambles held aloft by goons.

    As for the other point: If Trump's set to absolutely crater the Economy to the degree anyone who can do math believes he will, then it won't even matter who Democrats run, the populace will - again - see shit's more expensive and blame the ruling party and kick them out for whoever's not them. That is to say, I don't think Dems are so doomed that there's not a reasonable future where they claw back the levers of power from the Republicans after their shitty economic policies once again have the obvious effects.
    Like X is in shambles after he cut 90% of staff? Didn't seem to change much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Like X is in shambles after he cut 90% of staff? Didn't seem to change much.
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/busin...ity/index.html

    Yes, losing 80% of the the value of the price that he paid for it is a platform in shambles, lol. What do you call losing 80% of the value of your investment?

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