Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[En Sabah Nur]

I don't for a second think that Trump actually believes his own bullshit.

He doesn't need to. He just needs everyone else to believe it as and when required.

[PhaelixWW]

He doesn't need to. He just needs everyone else to believe it as and when required.

You're forgetting what my original point was:

It must burn at him that he's not going to beat Biden's vote count.

I'm not talking about what other people believe. I'm talking about his own narcissism and how it's going to be eating away at him over that fact.

[Kaleredar]

It's what she'll be remembered for.

The only thing.

Oh no, Harris gets to retire as a wealthy, well connected politician without a care in the world. Truly a miserable fate for someone who defied Trump!

Yawn.


But seeing as you’re bringing up “legacy,” trump will be remembered as the twice-impeached sex pest criminal who bungled a global pandemic during his punctuated eight miserable years of White House occupation.

George W. bush isn’t even remembered fondly these days and he never even raped anybody. You think the history books are gonna look back kindly on Trump?



Actually, correction, twice-impeached so far.

[En Sabah Nur]

You're forgetting what my original point was:

I'm not talking about what other people believe. I'm talking about his own narcissism and how it's going to be eating away at him over that fact.

I absolutely did. I really need to get some coffee inside me...

[Glorious Leader]

Not for it being her fault, no.

She'll be a footnote in the cautionary tale of American fascism under Trump.

Then were fucking doomed to repeat this crap because the utter failure of the campaign to defeat a convicted felon and epsteins best friend is merely a foot note...

[Jessicka]

Then were fucking doomed to repeat this crap because the utter failure of the campaign to defeat a convicted felon and epsteins best friend is merely a foot note...

As already is Clinton.

[PhaelixWW]

Then were fucking doomed to repeat this crap because the utter failure of the campaign to defeat a convicted felon and epsteins best friend is merely a foot note...

We're talking about history 50 years from now, 100 years from now. At that point, it'll be a footnote.

[Shadowferal]

I don't for a second think that Trump actually believes his own bullshit.

Dementia...he'll die never realizing his world has always been a fantasy.

[DarkAmbient]

Trump’s defense choice stuns the Pentagon and raises questions about the Fox News host’s experience[i]

President-elect Donald Trump stunned the Pentagon and the broader defense world by nominating Fox News host Pete Hegseth to serve as his defense secretary, tapping someone largely inexperienced and untested on the global stage to take over the world’s largest and most powerful military.

The news was met with bewilderment and worry among many in Washington as Trump passed on a number of established national security heavy-hitters and chose an Army National Guard captain well known in conservative circles as a co-host of Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends Weekend.”

It just gets worse. Part of me wants this whole thing to be as bad as possible, just full-on insanity, so bad that America never does it again. But that would mean learning from mistakes and never repeating them. People aren't so good at that.

[diller]

https://mashable.com/article/stephen...sk-x-ban-rumor

It was never true.

Yeah he confirmed himself that it never happened.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Oh no, Harris gets to retire as a wealthy, well connected politician without a care in the world. Truly a miserable fate for someone who defied Trump!

Yawn.


But seeing as you’re bringing up “legacy,” trump will be remembered as the twice-impeached sex pest criminal who bungled a global pandemic during his punctuated eight miserable years of White House occupation.

George W. bush isn’t even remembered fondly these days and he never even raped anybody. You think the history books are gonna look back kindly on Trump?



Actually, correction, twice-impeached so far.

He's all those things yet still single handedly destroyed the Democratic party for probably a couple of decades, if not forever. What does that say about THEM?

Blame the voters again, see how that works out. I think deep down inside, you are terrified that the Dem brand is so utterly toxic right now, that if the next 4 years are even halfway decent, then you're looking at 8 years of Vance winning easily. It's like you're almost rooting for America to fail.

[Clone]

He's all those things yet still single handedly destroyed the Democratic party for probably a couple of decades, if not forever. What does that say about THEM?

Blame the voters again, see how that works out. I think deep down inside, you are terrified that the Dem brand is so utterly toxic right now, that if the next 4 years are even halfway decent, then you're looking at 8 years of Vance winning easily. It's like you're almost rooting for America to fail.

He didn't destroy the Democratic party. This is an ongoing process since the days of Newt Gingrich.

And the voters are absolutely to blame.

[En Sabah Nur]

single handedly destroyed the Democratic party for probably a couple of decades, if not forever

I applaud your affinity for utter bullshit, if nothing else. Or maybe its just wishcasting.

[Somewhatconcerned]

I applaud your affinity for utter bullshit, if nothing else. Or maybe its just wishcasting.

Why do you disagree?

They've lost 2 out of 3 elections to Trump in relatively blowout fashion. They've lost all 3 branches. Lost SCOTUS for generations. Lost most governor's mansions. Lost most state legislatures.

Feels like early 80s with Reagan x 2 and Bush for 12 years are incoming.

[Edge-]

Why do you disagree?

They've lost 2 out of 3 elections to Trump in relatively blowout fashion. They've lost all 3 branches. Lost SCOTUS for generations. Lost most governor's mansions. Lost most state legislatures.

Feels like early 80s with Reagan x 2 and Bush for 12 years are incoming.

In 2020 Republicans lost in "blowout fashion" yet here we are today.

You create and promote the strangest narratives.

[Kaleredar]

In 2020 Republicans lost in "blowout fashion" yet here we are today.

You create and promote the strangest narratives.

Don’t forget the “red wave” in 2022 that was a whole lot of nothing.

Trump was able to fuck up the economy so badly from 2016-2020 that they were then able to bitch about it not being entirely fixed yet all the way in 2024, and enough people wistfully believed him that they mistakenly voted for him.

I don’t know what the GOP’s excuse is going to be in 2028 about why all of their plans to make everything great fell short and why only rich people got richer.

My guess is whining about illegal immigrants. Maybe the gays. Possibly Mexico.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Part of the strategy here that Trump and Musk are employing here is that they're inserting a poison pill for the Dems in 2028.

Like seriously, what are they going to campaign on in 2028? Raising taxes and reinflating the size of govt? There will be zero political capital for any of that.

I think some of you have underestimated just how badly Dems have been played here.

[En Sabah Nur]

Why do you disagree?

They've lost 2 out of 3 elections to Trump in relatively blowout fashion. They've lost all 3 branches. Lost SCOTUS for generations. Lost most governor's mansions. Lost most state legislatures.

Feels like early 80s with Reagan x 2 and Bush for 12 years are incoming.

Certainly read the posts above this one, they covered things for me.

But I'd also take issue with the "single handedly" bit. Trump had immense help on this. The idea he alone is responsible for this is one of the dumbest ideas I've read recently.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Don’t forget the “red wave” in 2022 that was a whole lot of nothing.

Trump was able to fuck up the economy so badly from 2016-2020 that they were then able to bitch about it not being entirely fixed yet all the way in 2024, and enough people wistfully believed him that they mistakenly voted for him.

I don’t know what the GOP’s excuse is going to be in 2028 about why all of their plans to make everything great fell short and why only rich people got richer.

My guess is whining about illegal immigrants. Maybe the gays. Possibly Mexico.

Economy was fine until COVID hit, which was going to hurt the economy regardless who was in charge. Dems just had bad timing with having to take the blame for both sides pumping trillions into the economy.

I still think tariffs are largely a negotiating tactic. I think you will see it used more as a tuning knob rather than a sledgehammer.

[Draco-Onis]

I still think tariffs are largely a negotiating tactic. I think you will see it used more as a tuning knob rather than a sledgehammer.

Negotiating what? NAFTA 2.0 was instituted by Trump, we already have heavy tariffs on most things coming from China. What magical new deal are we negotiating? We will be violating every single trade deal we have with our allies for shits and giggles. They would be fools not to just walk away and put tariffs on our shit after all what stops us from walking away from the new deal and do this again.

Foreign deals are based on trust, this is the equivalent of bringing in a mistress to make your marriage better.