Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[zorkuus]

Seems bad. When you politicize departments (like Garland with DOJ)

The only thing they politized with Garland is put in a scared little mouse who's too afraid to go after people on the right who have committed crimes, incase it would appear political... which in itself IS political. Blow it out your ass.

Btw, here's a question left unaswered: why do you support a rapist convicted felon?

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Mark Houck

Mark Houck, the violent religious extremist? Is your issue that he was charged for assaulting an innocent person? Seriously?

[fwc577]

Trump flat-out campaigned and ran on raising taxes, specifically tariffs, which he can unilaterally do. Nobody can stop him.

He'll either do it, and raise taxes like the people who supported him were cheering for him to do; or he won't, and he's a lying coward.

Let's be clear, he didn't run on raising taxes. He ran on lowering taxes. Most people don't understand that a tariff is going to essentially be a tax on them, hence the spike in Google Searches for things like "What is a tariff?" and "Trump's Tariff Plan" post election.

When people went into the voting booth, those idiots thought, like The Wall, that a foreign country would be paying for it.

[Kaleredar]

Why would they, when they can just not confirm Gaetz?

The question is whether the republicans personally care whether Gaetz is in that position or not. How does this negatively affect the Republican Party and its goals?

Note I didn’t ask “how does it negatively affect the country;” all of trumps appointments are clearly about the worst people that could be chosen. The GOP don’t care about the country, they care about toeing the line. If Gaetz will do that… what do they care?

[Somewhatconcerned]

Mark Houck, the violent religious extremist? Is your issue that he was charged for assaulting an innocent person? Seriously?

Seems like he shoved someone, should have been a local matter.

Why did the FBI need to come to his house?

[Paranoid Android]

This is definitely not what he meant, but there's a solid argument to be made that Garland being picked for AG was a political choice to ensure prosecutions of political criminals on the right were pursued slowly and cautiously, rather than with the full force of the law like you would any other non-political criminal. It was another example of the Democrats giving Republicans a handout that they should have known would be instantly and forever rejected. As we can see, through Somewhatconcerned's mischaracterization of events.

If you're hesitating to prosecute a case because the accused is a political figure with clout, that's what corruption is.

Thank you!

Idk why people get upset when mentioning why Biden would appoint this person. People don't seem to remember that Obama picked him cause he was conservative light and they thought Republicans would vote for SCOTUS. Well, that didn't work out, did it?

Democrats just part of the system so much in that I really do applaud they want to govern, to have a functioning government. Yet, trying to be some centrist, conservative group that you don't rock the boat is bad. Garland wanted to be that AG that went with the flow and didn't want to aggressively prosecute a former President. A practice of injustice.

[Doomcookie]

Seems like he shoved someone, should have been a local matter.

Why did the FBI need to come to his house?

You keep trying to demand others explain your false claims.

Meanwhile, why weren't you concerned when Trump tried to politicize the DoJ during his attempts to overthrow the government?

Were you concerned?

[fwc577]

The GOP don’t care about the country, they care about toeing the line.

FALSE

The GOP cares about power. Individual Senators like their position because in many cases, they're profiting off that position.

Having someone like Gaetz in their potentially destroying an institution is going to hurt their chances for re-election. And spare me the whole "There won't be elections anymore" because I'm sick of the tin foil hattery.

They know Gaetz is a dick and should they confirm him and get on his bad side, he also could start launching investigations into people for inane bullshit and end up getting some of the caught up in whatever grifts and thievery they're running. They don't want a sock puppet for Trump there because if they step out of line and make Trump mad, they could end up getting fucked.

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So, fun fact. I completed my open enrollment today for work. Decided to sign up for Supplement Life and AD&D just because the next 4 years, the crazies will be out in full force and I don't trust being blue living in a red state, lol.

[Somewhatconcerned]

You keep trying to demand others explain your false claims.

Meanwhile, why weren't you concerned when Trump tried to politicize the DoJ during his attempts to overthrow the government?

Were you concerned?

Both things can be bad. Shocking, I know.


In other news, RFK Jr to be head of HHS. Not unexpected.
https://x.com/meridithmcgraw/status/1857159122770395465

[Doomcookie]

Both things can be bad. Shocking, I know.


In other news, RFK Jr to be head of HHS. Not unexpected.
https://x.com/meridithmcgraw/status/1857159122770395465

Where was your concern?

Meanwhile, you support Trump, and what he did. We know this, because I provided you with the evidence of that support.

Or, do you want to go back to the time after the 2020 election, when he was trying to overthrow the government, and show all those comments about it. You and I both know you won't find it.

So, the end result is you feigning concern for something you steadfastly support. The one difference is that you did it for a rapist. It would seem that the only time you actually pretend to oppose politicizing the government, is when the person supposedly doing it, is not a rapist.

[Paranoid Android]

RFK picked as HHS.

Man the Republicans are so anti-common sense it's amazing. Oil guy(s) as EPA, Anti-Education for Dept Education, Anti-Science as HHS, etc. Only think they stick with is military probably. They are going to dismantle institutions just cause. Not improve or ideas, just tear it down.

I try to think what, how the Dems would be the same to Republicans and can't. Secretary of Defense who dismantles our whole military? Sec. of State who just goes around and insults every head of state with a F*ck You. Idk.

[Paetolus]

RFK picked as HHS.

Man the Republicans are so anti-common sense it's amazing. Oil guy(s) as EPA, Anti-Education for Dept Education, Anti-Science as HHS, etc. Only think they stick with is military probably. They are going to dismantle institutions just cause. Not improve or ideas, just tear it down.

I try to think what, how the Dems would be the same to Republicans and can't. Secretary of Defense who dismantles our whole military? Sec. of State who just goes around and insults every head of state with a F*ck You. Idk.

When the goal is to make most of those institutions as ineffective as possible for the benefit of the rich and America's enemies, it starts to make a bit more sense. Don't worry though, our taxes will be cut by like 2%, totally worth it...

[Kaleredar]

FALSE

The GOP cares about power. Individual Senators like their position because in many cases, they're profiting off that position.

Having someone like Gaetz in their potentially destroying an institution is going to hurt their chances for re-election. And spare me the whole "There won't be elections anymore" because I'm sick of the tin foil hattery.

They know Gaetz is a dick and should they confirm him and get on his bad side, he also could start launching investigations into people for inane bullshit and end up getting some of the caught up in whatever grifts and thievery they're running. They don't want a sock puppet for Trump there because if they step out of line and make Trump mad, they could end up getting fucked.

I don’t think they have that amount of long-term preservation in mind. Not when it involves actively sticking out their neck.

[Paranoid Android]

When the goal is to make most of those institutions as ineffective as possible for the benefit of the rich and America's enemies, it starts to make a bit more sense. Don't worry though, our taxes will be cut by like 2%, totally worth it...

Oh yes, I get it.

I always stated that Republicans don't govern, thus making people mad at that the government does not work for them. Then Republicans run on "Gubbberment Bad!". People then say "yeah" and vote Republican. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm still amazed about just being basically anti-society. These people are amazing in how they function. Oh and far as rich; their short-sighted of thinking that when society collapses they can hide behind their gates. Now once again, we are so stupid we worship the rich we blame other groups so Idk.

[Poopymonster]

When the goal is to make most of those institutions as ineffective as possible for the benefit of the rich and America's enemies, it starts to make a bit more sense. Don't worry though, our taxes will be cut by like 2%, totally worth it...

Indeed, making them ineffective so others can profit is as American as eating apple pie and the girl next door.
Then you make a private company to "fix" it.
Then another private sector company cleans up the "fix".
Another company spawns ad nauseum.
But don't worry, every morning you can enjoy a nice bowl of Asbest-o's*. They'll take your breath away!


*This post contains recycled jokes

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Oh yes, I get it.

I always stated that Republicans don't govern, thus making people mad at that the government does not work for them. Then Republicans run on "Gubbberment Bad!". People then say "yeah" and vote Republican. It's a vicious cycle.

I'm still amazed about just being basically anti-society. These people are amazing in how they function. Oh and far as rich; their short-sighted of thinking that when society collapses they can hide behind their gates. Now once again, we are so stupid we worship the rich we blame other groups so Idk.

I want to make my own way on my own!
Built on the successes of society that made this possible.

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Seems like he shoved someone, should have been a local matter.

Why did the FBI need to come to his house?

He violated federal law, which makes it a federal matter. https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-...enate-bill/636

This is basic shit, dude. Did you not read up on any of the facts before kneejerking?

[Doomcookie]

He violated federal law, which makes it a federal matter. https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-...enate-bill/636

This is basic shit, dude. Did you not read up on any of the facts before kneejerking?

It's not kneejerking, it's lying. I just want to make sure we're all clear. Kneejerking implies a semblance of genuine motives on his part. His entire plan is to lie and deflect for a known rapist and felon.

[Paranoid Android]

Back to RFK and Republicans in any Department.

Mention that Republicans have found an attack on let's say Drug Companies. Republicans will villainize drug companies (take the hint Democrats) on their profiteering, our over reliance on drugs, and them skirting rules to push out drubs (Covid conspiracy). There is some truth in all of this. I would say that people who are touching grass and on the Dem side would agree with all these about drug companies.

Of course this is where conservatives will use to take down the Departments or these days they are just crazy in believing some of this crap and think they live in some conspirator world. Yes, go after drug companies for many of it's horrible things, but it's not about that Frogs are turning Gay.


RFK believes this btw.

Edit: Basically populism, but in their twisted way.

[Xyonai]

Back to RFK and Republicans in any Department.

Mention that Republicans have found an attack on let's say Drug Companies. Republicans will villainize drug companies (take the hint Democrats) on their profiteering, our over reliance on drugs, and them skirting rules to push out drubs (Covid conspiracy). There is some truth in all of this. I would say that people who are touching grass and on the Dem side would agree with all these about drug companies.

Of course this is where conservatives will use to take down the Departments or these days they are just crazy in believing some of this crap and think they live in some conspirator world. Yes, go after drug companies for many of it's horrible things, but it's not about that Frogs are turning Gay.


RFK believes this btw.

Yeah a good amount of 'Policy' I've seen from Trump and appointments seems to circle around "Acknowledging a real and tangible problem, but go about it the most mentally deranged ways possible."

It'd be like if our future Head of the DOD came out rebuking excessive military spending and war profiteering... and came to the conclusion that they need to slash Military and Veteran Health Benifits

[Somewhatconcerned]

He violated federal law, which makes it a federal matter. https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-...enate-bill/636

This is basic shit, dude. Did you not read up on any of the facts before kneejerking?

So basic that his case was tossed?