Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[NED funded]

But it's the spending that's injecting money into the economy, not the tax cuts. The tax cuts just add to the deficit.

Ig my comment came off as supportive? A popular talking point was that Biden cauded inflation bc of gov spending. Conservatives dont really care abt gov spending as in fact balloon spending to cause inflation.

[Breccia]

Paste both on--

I openly accused you of supporting the dictatorial use of law enforcement to direct investigations against political rivals and you refused to answer. Either because you actually do, which is the default position for a Trump supporter and therefore your admission until otherwise noted, or because you're ashamed of the people and party you supported and voted for on purpose. Or maybe you're hiding from a direct debate. The term for that last one is "coward". Fortunately, I'm not calling you a coward. I'm calling you a supporter of dictatorship. You're free to call yourself a coward.

So you're not going to like this next one, either.

Trump just put Kari Lake head of the Voice of America state funded network.

to ensure that the American values of Freedom and Liberty are broadcast around the World FAIRLY and ACCURATELY, unlike the lies spread by the Fake News Media

-- Trump, of someone who was sued for defamation for lying about her election loss and settled rather than face judgement.

The VOA was started in 1942 to counter Nazi propaganda. Now, it's being headed by an election denier appointed by a conspiracy theorist.
@tehdang as per usual you support and applaud this move until you specifically and directly say otherwise. Your support of Trump is public and obvious, therefore, the assumption is that you support Trump unless you contradict such when specifically and directly asked in public.

[Edge-]

Trump just put Kari Lake head of the Voice of America state funded network.

Shame there are zero consequences for wasting years of court time with pointless, baseless lawsuits and there's actually zero consequence for it.

I do hope any remaining "moderate" Republicans are deeply uncomfortable with how things are shaping up.

[Mayhem]

Shame there are zero consequences for wasting years of court time with pointless, baseless lawsuits and there's actually zero consequence for it.

I do hope any remaining "moderate" Republicans are deeply uncomfortable with how things are shaping up.

They'll feel very bad when they pocket all the money coming towards them for looking the other way.

[Kaleredar]

Shame there are zero consequences for wasting years of court time with pointless, baseless lawsuits and there's actually zero consequence for it.

Silver lining is that… nobody who wasn’t already a Trump cultist is going to bother listening to that drek.

I do hope any remaining "moderate" Republicans are deeply uncomfortable with how things are shaping up.

They’re all in a selective denial. That trump will totally do the things he said he’d do that they want him to do “because they’re good for America,” but won’t actually do the things they don’t want him to do “because he’s just bluffing about those things.”

It’ll take a direct hit to their pocket books to even begin to shake them out of it.

[Breccia]

It’ll take a direct hit to their pocket books to even begin to shake them out of it.

Let's hope so. Cultists have already proven dying in thousands wasn't enough.

[Gabriel]

Tax cuts do not inject anything into the economy. They return funds to the people or corporations that benefit from them. However, outside of the poor or middle class, the rest of the tax cuts(which majorly effect only the rich or big corporations), they either go into bank accounts that don't do much of much or get returned to shareholders which, for all intents and purposes, do the exact same thing as get put into bank accounts.

Hey now, those tax cuts are also used for purchasing even larger share of means of production or land or housing!

[Shadowferal]

No surprise here; Trump lied about bringing down grocery prices

[Edge-]

No surprise here; Trump lied about bringing down grocery prices

I hope his voters suffer bigly.

I'll be making an extra donation to a few of my local food banks, though. This is gonna suck, even if it's what a bunch of very stupid and ignorant people voted for because they're gullible and Republicans have no issues repeating brazen lies.

Hell, there's a freshman incoming CA Rep. that's trying to kill federal dollars coming to CA for high-speed rail, which would benefit his district. Because he seems entirely focused on pleasing Leon to get a shoutout from him, mostly, and is an incredibly safe district where one of the larger local churches basically are the ones who get him elected (of course without any remote threat of losing tax-exempt status).

[Rasulis]

No surprise here; Trump lied about bringing down grocery prices

Anyone with basic knowledge of the economy know that the government has tenuous control of everyday prices. At least in the US profit driven economy. China and Russia where the government can threaten CEOs with jail time, or simply make them disappear, are different stories. Even that has limitations.

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I hope his voters suffer bigly.

I'll be making an extra donation to a few of my local food banks, though. This is gonna suck, even if it's what a bunch of very stupid and ignorant people voted for because they're gullible and Republicans have no issues repeating brazen lies.

Hell, there's a freshman incoming CA Rep. that's trying to kill federal dollars coming to CA for high-speed rail, which would benefit his district. Because he seems entirely focused on pleasing Leon to get a shoutout from him, mostly, and is an incredibly safe district where one of the larger local churches basically are the ones who get him elected (of course without any remote threat of losing tax-exempt status).

A lot of people voted against their own self-interest in this election.

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This is going well.

Canadian official threatens to cut U.S. energy supplies in response to tariffs

Trump is not even in power yet.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Elon all aglee that billionaires are exempt from environmental regulations

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk is dancing with joy now that his new father figure Donald Trump has promised him that he will no longer have to abide by the pesky environmental rules that apply to lowly commoners.

On Tuesday, president-elect Donald Trump announced in a Truth Social post that any "person or company" investing $1 billion or more in the US would "receive fully expedited approvals and permits, including, but in no way limited to, all Environmental [sic] approvals."

The initiative — if it actually happens, which is always a question with Trump — will also likely dovetail with his efforts to roll back environmental protections to pave the way for fossil fuel production.

As bad as it sounds.

You're misrepresenting this.

It says they will fast track approvals, not that they will waive regulations or standards.

Stop lying.

[Shadowferal]

Anyone with basic knowledge of the economy know that the government has tenuous control of everyday prices.

A lot of people voted against their own self-interest in this election.

The Trump voter...ignorant but hoping they be wrong, or simply willing to starve for their little godking.

[Edge-]

You're misrepresenting this.

It says they will fast track approvals, not that they will waive regulations or standards.

Stop lying.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866571568266219998



Why do you lie when the evidence is literally linked?

[Somewhatconcerned]

But it's the spending that's injecting money into the economy, not the tax cuts. The tax cuts just add to the deficit.

If people have more money in their pocket, they will spend it.

Tax cuts without spending cuts absolutely add to the deficit, but that's where DOGE comes in. That's where reducing energy costs and fixing the supply chain come in (many CA ports still not moving goods thru fast enough, for example).

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866571568266219998



Why do you lie when the evidence is literally linked?

Ok?

Where does it say anything about waiving environmental regulations?

[En Sabah Nur]

Someone has rather naively bought into all the bullshit and it shows.

[Edge-]

Ok?

Where does it say anything about waiving environmental regulations?

"all Environmental approvals."

If you need some help understanding basic sentence structure in the English language I'd suggest investigating some tutors, because it's literally in the sentence that any person or company spending more than $1B "will receive" all the following.

[Somewhatconcerned]

"all Environmental approvals."

If you need some help understanding basic sentence structure in the English language I'd suggest investigating some tutors, because it's literally in the sentence that any person or company spending more than $1B "will receive" all the following.

Yes...they will receive expedited approval, including for environmental regulations.

Still doesn't = waiving them.

Whose reading comprehension needs work, again?

[Edge-]

Yes...they will receive expedited approval, including for environmental regulations.

Still doesn't = waiving them.

Whose reading comprehension needs work, again?

What if their investment doesn't pass environmental regulations though? How can their approval be fully expedited if they cannot be approved? If he said "expedited review", that would be correct.

[Glorious Leader]

Anyone with basic knowledge of the economy know that the government has tenuous control of everyday prices. At least in the US profit driven economy. China and Russia where the government can threaten CEOs with jail time, or simply make them disappear, are different stories. Even that has limitations.

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A lot of people voted against their own self-interest in this election.

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This is going well.

Canadian official threatens to cut U.S. energy supplies in response to tariffs

Trump is not even in power yet.

wow never thought i would say fuck yea doug ford...

[Doomcookie]

You're misrepresenting this.

It says they will fast track approvals, not that they will waive regulations or standards.

Stop lying.

It's weird that you think rapists and billionaires are just better.

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If people have more money in their pocket, they will spend it.

Tax cuts without spending cuts absolutely add to the deficit, but that's where DOGE comes in. That's where reducing energy costs and fixing the supply chain come in (many CA ports still not moving goods thru fast enough, for example).

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Ok?

Where does it say anything about waiving environmental regulations?

Trump didn't do it last time, and you supported those deficits.

Stop lying.

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Yes...they will receive expedited approval, including for environmental regulations.

Still doesn't = waiving them.

Whose reading comprehension needs work, again?

Trump and Musk disagree with you.

Are they lying?