1. #93761
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Whatever sum Musk contributed to Trump's campaign was definitely worth it.

    Trump transition recommends scrapping car-crash reporting requirement opposed by Tesla
    Denying Americans transparency in safety data to own the libs, baby.

  2. #93762
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    My issue with the upcoming Trump administration that I did not have with the previous one is that Trump seems to have surrounded himself with not only loyalists but loyalists that feel open disdain for the institutions they are being put in charge of and in general the government. Something that did not happen in 2016.
    You've 10 billionaires in charge. The institutions are about regulations. This is as swampy as it can get.
    “But this isn’t the end. I promise you, this is not the end, and we have to regroup and we have to continue to fight and continue to work day in and day out to create the better society for our children, for this world, for this country, that we know is possible.” ~~Jon Stewart

  3. #93763
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    My issue with the upcoming Trump administration that I did not have with the previous one is that Trump seems to have surrounded himself with not only loyalists but loyalists that feel open disdain for the institutions they are being put in charge of and in general the government. Something that did not happen in 2016. JFK jr openly disregards vaccines and seems intent in basically putting any regulatory and judicial hurdle it can get to stop them.
    Rick Perry wanted to get rid of the Department of Energy.

    And apparently did an actually good job of running the place after the deep state explained to him the importance of his role. Needless to say he's nowhere in sight this time around.

  4. #93764
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Rick Perry wanted to get rid of the Department of Energy.

    And apparently did an actually good job of running the place after the deep state explained to him the importance of his role. Needless to say he's nowhere in sight this time around.
    The difference is that this time around, he's not hiring people who want to cut departments because they're ignorant of their purpose. He's hiring people who want to cut departments because they know full well what they do and don't want to be held accountable by them.

  5. #93765
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Rick Perry wanted to get rid of the Department of Energy.

    And apparently did an actually good job of running the place after the deep state explained to him the importance of his role. Needless to say he's nowhere in sight this time around.
    Homeboy thought he'd be a fuckin gasoline salesman in the job. He was the former fucking governor of Texas. And don't forget: He fairly famously forgot that he wanted to close the Department of Energy in 2011 and had to be reminded by another candidate, Ron Paul, after he forgot it amongst the whopping three agencies he had to remember that he wanted to shut down.

    Republicans keep electing the dumbest people, I'm just glad he wasn't maliciously stupid.

  6. #93766
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You've 10 billionaires in charge. The institutions are about regulations. This is as swampy as it can get.
    I think its wild how conservatives complained about George Soros for decades while Elon Musk straight up donates 250 million dollars and gets a role in the government with cheers and applause from conservatives. Like literally pay to play as it gets and he gets cheered on.

    No principles.

  7. #93767
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I think its wild how conservatives complained about George Soros and Elon Musk straight up donates 250 million dollars and gets a role in the government with cheers and applause from conservatives. Like literally pay to play as it gets and he gets cheered on.

    No principles.
    Well, you see, Elon isn't Jewish.

  8. #93768
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Wow nice find.

    Don't believe anything said around here. And they wonder why nobody trusts them or that the Dem brand is in the trash. They've been wrong about virtually everything.
    Nothing either of you two says is good or true.

  9. #93769
    Mitch McConnell to RFK Jr; "Fuck off that polio vaccine noise"

    Forgot Mitch had polio when he was a young'un.
    “But this isn’t the end. I promise you, this is not the end, and we have to regroup and we have to continue to fight and continue to work day in and day out to create the better society for our children, for this world, for this country, that we know is possible.” ~~Jon Stewart

  10. #93770
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Mitch McConnell to RFK Jr; "Fuck off that polio vaccine noise"

    Forgot Mitch had polio when he was a young'un.
    Mitch can go fuck himself. He supported the nominee. He supported this. Seriously, fuck him.

  11. #93771
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    The most ironic part is that the article is written for gullible idiots. To misinform gullible idiots.
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Wow nice find.

    Don't believe anything said around here. And they wonder why nobody trusts them or that the Dem brand is in the trash. They've been wrong about virtually everything.
    It hurt itself in its confusion.

  12. #93772
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    How did he "back away" from it?

    He said it would be hard, but that he thinks it will happen.

    Reducing energy costs and further alleviating supply chain issues will absolutely help, if he can get it done. In the short term, tax cuts will put more money in your pocket and mine.
    He claimed he would lower grocery prices. He claimed he would cut insurance rates in half. He claimed the price of gas would be far lower.

    He is backing away from it because he is now saying that, and for a right reason, that once prices go up, it is very hard for them to lower. That is absolutely true. However, he campaigned on being able to lower prices.

    So if prices don't lower, I can directly blame him as he said he could do it.

    So, if he implements his tariffs, are you and other supporters of him going to blame him when prices go up accordingly or are you going to deflect or outright deny it was ever said in the first place like you are doing now.

  13. #93773
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Mitch McConnell to RFK Jr; "Fuck off that polio vaccine noise"

    Forgot Mitch had polio when he was a young'un.
    Fuck off Mitch you caused a lot of this

  14. #93774
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Mitch can go fuck himself. He supported the nominee. He supported this. Seriously, fuck him.
    Hmm, I guess the fact that there was a sitting president, an extremely famous one that had an amendment passed because he was so liked to prevent him from running for another term, was disabled due to polio should be outright dismissed by those who support getting rid of the polio vaccine.

    You know, Franklin D Roosevelt.

    I swear, anyone who supports getting rid of a vaccine for bullshit reasons should be required to get the disease and prove they can cure it in a different way if vaccines are so "ineffective".

  15. #93775
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Denying Americans transparency in safety data to own the libs, baby.
    Surely republicans will learn that the country is more important than making people upset on twitter... one day right?

  16. #93776
    Quote Originally Posted by Moralgy View Post
    Surely republicans will learn that the country is more important than making people upset on twitter... one day right?
    Nah, it has more to do with basically allowing businesses to do what they want without any "pesky" people looking into it.

  17. #93777
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I think its wild how conservatives complained about George Soros for decades while Elon Musk straight up donates 250 million dollars and gets a role in the government with cheers and applause from conservatives. Like literally pay to play as it gets and he gets cheered on.

    No principles.
    Every accusation is a confession, leopards won't bite my face, etc.

    I consider this not wild at all. The logical conclusion of letting a narcissist billionaire disregard your institutions for 4 years, mostly fail at it because he's completely inept at everything except pandering to the ignorant to get elected, then attempt to overthrow the government because he can't deal with the loss, and re-electing said narcissist billionaire because the Democrat candidate isn't perfection incarnate, is that the narcissist billionaire will double down on his bullshit and bring friends who got in on the grift to make money, push their politically arsonist ideas, or more likely both at the same time.

    Americans voted for this. Hope they like them apples. I'm going to support whatever Canadian government I think can get us through 4 more years of this abject nonsense without our trade with our biggest partner collapsing to feed some orange moron's ego, and tune out of US politics to a degree if I can.
    It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built -Kreia

    The internet: where to every action is opposed an unequal overreaction.

  18. #93778
    Quote Originally Posted by Moralgy View Post
    Surely republicans will learn that the country is more important than making people upset on twitter... one day right?
    Did you watch that interview between venture billionaire capitalist Marc Andreesen and Joe Rogan. Like he straights up conjures this narrative that the consumer protection agency is bad because it censors conservatives and that actually defunding the agency would trigger the libs in big finance or something like that.

    These billionaires know how to play the conservative game

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...sen-rcna182551

    MSBNC has a good piece on it.

    The Silicon Valley Bros are not fans of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Elon Musk would like you to know that he believes the bureau is an unnecessary bureaucratic hiccup and one that should not exist. “Delete CFPB,” he posted on X last week, adding it’s “duplicative,” a perfect target, he seemed to indicate, for his DOGE commission to improve government efficiency. Musk’s comment was in response to, yes, another post, this one detailing claims about the agency made by venture capitalist Marc Andreessen on Joe Rogan’s popular podcast. Andreessen claimed the CFPB is the personal fiefdom of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and that it pursues political and business vendettas against Republicans and small, scrappy fintech startups on behalf of Democrats and the big banks.
    Last edited by NED funded; 2024-12-14 at 03:43 AM.

  19. #93779
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    He has seen Trump's bullshit before. He knows what he's dealing with.
    He also knows the current congress will be so dysfunctional you could call the House "Ike" and the Senate "Tina".
    He probably sees this as a golden opportunity.
    I 100000% guarantee you that Xi sees Trump as a useful, easily manipulated moron, and that's the complete and total sum of their "good relationship", and Trump is just so far up his own ass that he doesn't even realize he's being played like the desperate for attention highschool dweeb he's always been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Homeboy thought he'd be a fuckin gasoline salesman in the job. He was the former fucking governor of Texas. And don't forget: He fairly famously forgot that he wanted to close the Department of Energy in 2011 and had to be reminded by another candidate, Ron Paul, after he forgot it amongst the whopping three agencies he had to remember that he wanted to shut down.

    Republicans keep electing the dumbest people, I'm just glad he wasn't maliciously stupid.
    Didn't someone basically also need to point out to him that he can't really shut down the Department of Energy, because it happens to be the parent which the department responsible for maintaining the American Nuclear Arsenal falls under. Like, galaxy brain move to want to shut down the agency responsible for maintaining your weapons of mass destruction...........
    Last edited by Surfd; 2024-12-14 at 06:19 AM.

  20. #93780
    Seeing some of these peoples friends, crippling the US military and their deterrence is probably high on their agenda.

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