Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Jessicka]

I 100000% guarantee you that Xi sees Trump as a useful, easily manipulated moron, and that's the complete and total sum of their "good relationship", and Trump is just so far up his own ass that he doesn't even realize he's being played like the desperate for attention highschool dweeb he's always been.

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Didn't someone basically also need to point out to him that he can't really shut down the Department of Energy, because it happens to be the parent which the department responsible for maintaining the American Nuclear Arsenal falls under. Like, galaxy brain move to want to shut down the agency responsible for maintaining your weapons of mass destruction...........

They want to close it because they see an industrial market opportunity. Less oversight for what they want to do, and a captive market to take over what has to be done.

That’s what privatisation is all about.

[Shadowferal]

Infectious diseases killed Victorian children at alarming rates — their novels highlight the fragility of public health today

...so easy to forget the horrific reality that used to exist.

[En Sabah Nur]

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Interestingly, the second half of your original post basically nails down why people have such distrust for most right wing media.

This section:

This makes me a little angry that journalists intentionally hide the ball to fool gullible people *that already know RFK Jr to be a kook* into believing that the story is proof of new kookery. It's a primed audience and it does a disservice, and reminds people that the NYT and the Daily Beast get stories wrong and it will take backlash to obtain a clarifying editorial note. Meanwhile, readers go off on absolutely wrong "X Advisor wants KIDS CRIPPLED" and it will take days to get an editor's note on the article, and there will be a reactionary wave of dunk articles on unprofessional journalists and untrustworthy media outlets.

This is 100% the issue with most right-leaning media sources. I really hope you realise what you'd described here.

Wow nice find.

Don't believe anything said around here. And they wonder why nobody trusts them or that the Dem brand is in the trash. They've been wrong about virtually everything.

Perhaps you should have believed at least a little on this occasion. How embarrassing.

[NED funded]

Interestingly, the second half of your original post basically nails down why people have such distrust for most right wing media.

This section:

This is 100% the issue with most right-leaning media sources. I really hope you realise what you'd described here.


Perhaps you should have believed at least a little on this occasion. How embarrassing.

Right wing media doesnt even bother issuing a correction. How many right wing media sources have even bothered issuing a correction over the Haitian eating cats thing?

[Jessicka]

Right wing media doesnt even bother issuing a correction. How many right wing media sources have even bothered issuing a correction over the Haitian eating cats thing?

That’s the difference between “no evidence for” and “provably false”. That’s why so much right wing bullshit is dependent on “you can’t prove it isn’t”, with an absolute threshold.

[NED funded]

That’s the difference between “no evidence for” and “provably false”. That’s why so much right wing bullshit is dependent on “you can’t prove it isn’t”, with an absolute threshold.

Whats funny is that tehdang has the perfect case for what he is complaining. Ruby Freeman was a random poll worker that had to go through 3 years of litigation to even get some of the right wing media to acknowledged they lied about her. And their defense was that it was their first ammendment rights to lie and declare bankruptcy

Right Wing Media is so fake its unreal we even have to pretend its in the same realm to the NYT

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The CFPB is oddly funded by the Federal Reserve, instead of by annual appropriations from Congress, to avoid congressional oversight. That’s constitutionally dubious & anti-democratic, but here’s a silver lining: that’s also what makes it one of the easiest agencies to shut down.

https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status...00925473910866

I am seeing the momentum on this. Trump will never be able to deport 11 million immigrants and will be opposed on all his efforts on that end. But I am not sure there is a passionate defense of the cdob

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[Bodakane]

That’s the difference between “no evidence for” and “provably false”. That’s why so much right wing bullshit is dependent on “you can’t prove it isn’t”, with an absolute threshold.

Which is why it's safe to call the people that watch Fox and believe Trump, idiots. Falling for that is objectively stupid. That's not an insult, it's fact. Not only that, they'll turn around and believe any lie about Dems, wholesale, without a stitch of evidence while handwaving evidence of Trump's vast wrong doings. If that doesn't make those people stupid, then the word stupid shouldn't exist.

[Nymrohd]

Damn I guess the US will be bringing Polio back. Because who needs to walk and why not cancel the only form of protection from a disease we cannot cure.

[Poopymonster]

Damn I guess the US will be bringing Polio back. Because who needs to walk and why not cancel the only form of protection from a disease we cannot cure.

It won't be a problem for very long. Insurance won't cover anything.

[NED funded]

RFK Jr and all the people around him should be exposed for the kooks they are and wanting to make polio great again. But like I fear that when he becomes hhs and ONLY adds more blocks on vaccine aproval and not remove them. People are not going to care. Bc then we will need lawyers and pharma people to even fight against that stuff and "big farma" doesnt have valiant defenders.

[Gorsameth]

RFK Jr and all the people around him should be exposed for the kooks they are and wanting to make polio great again. But like I fear that when he becomes hhs and ONLY adds more blocks on vaccine aproval and not remove them. People are not going to care. Bc then we will need lawyers and pharma people to even fight against that stuff and "big farma" doesnt have valiant defenders.

really?
big pharma doesn't have valiant defenders?

What do you think they are bribing congress for?

[Rasulis]

Did you watch that interview between venture billionaire capitalist Marc Andreesen and Joe Rogan. Like he straights up conjures this narrative that the consumer protection agency is bad because it censors conservatives and that actually defunding the agency would trigger the libs in big finance or something like that.

These billionaires know how to play the conservative game

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...sen-rcna182551

MSBNC has a good piece on it.

If Musk & Ramaswamy get their way, SDIC, OCC, SEC and CFPD will all be gone, or reabsorbed into the Treasury Department. Totally insane. There goes all of the guardrails of the US banking and financial system. Every one of them.

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really?
big pharma doesn't have valiant defenders?

What do you think they are bribing congress for?

Somebody mentioned once that there are 40 pharmaceutical lobbyists in DC for every Congressional representative.

[Kaleredar]

Somebody mentioned once that there are 40 pharmaceutical lobbyists in DC for every Congressional representative.

Which makes it seem awfully strange they’d just take the prospect of RFK basically black listing their entire industry sitting down.

[Draco-Onis]

Which makes it seem awfully strange they’d just take the prospect of RFK basically black listing their entire industry sitting down.

I hate to be morbid but can you think of a greater profit opportunity than millions of Americans with sick kids willing to pay anything to make it better. If I was a ghoulish big Pharma executive I would be lobbying for RFK to get his position. After all a sick America is the wet dream of every big pharma company not to mention insurance companies, all these fields will make a literal killing off the catastrophy. Those who survive will be lifetime slaves I mean satisfied customers always in need of medical treatment.

[Corvus]

It's why the conspiracy that big pharma pushing vaccines for profits makes no sense. Vaccines are cheap prevention. The profits are in lifelong care for sick people.

[Captain N]

It's why the conspiracy that big pharma pushing vaccines for profits makes no sense. Vaccines are cheap prevention. The profits are in lifelong care for sick people.

The Opioid Crisis would be all the evidence you need to support this statement.

[NED funded]

Which makes it seem awfully strange they’d just take the prospect of RFK basically black listing their entire industry sitting down.

I don't think Big Pharma really cares about RFK Jr, like all of the damage that comes from him is contained to vaccines. Dunno how profitable vaccines are but I can't imagine most pharma companies caring that much about it. And comments like you see above, most people won't care that the pharma companies now have to clear even more regulatory hurdles to get their vaccines out bc "Big Pharma owns congress and the senate" or something like that.

That is the sort of damage I care about. The NYT does a good job at highlighting how much of a kook he is and thats good. I just don't like that it sets the bar high for what is likely going to be the more realistic damage RFK Jr will have. Not on existing products but on new products that will come out.

[Kaleredar]

I hate to be morbid but can you think of a greater profit opportunity than millions of Americans with sick kids willing to pay anything to make it better. If I was a ghoulish big Pharma executive I would be lobbying for RFK to get his position. After all a sick America is the wet dream of every big pharma company not to mention insurance companies, all these fields will make a literal killing off the catastrophy. Those who survive will be lifetime slaves I mean satisfied customers always in need of medical treatment.

But who’s to say that RFK won’t just indiscriminately ban the hyper-expensive medicines as well?

That’s the problem with moronic wildcards acting on some nonsensical crusade. You just sorta have to idly hope that you don’t find yourself on their bad side.

[NED funded]

If Musk & Ramaswamy get their way, SDIC, OCC, SEC and CFPD will all be gone, or reabsorbed into the Treasury Department. Totally insane. There goes all of the guardrails of the US banking and financial system. Every one of them.

I kind of worry about the CFPB cuz as I was researching this, destroying this agency seems to have been an objective of conservatives for a long time but its only now that they have become so brazen about it, included it in the whole culture war nonsense and have their base support it.

The CFPB and the department of education are the two I worry the most. Too much momentum is building up behind those specifically. And a lot of it is using "wokeness" as a veil to hide the true intentions.

[ringpriest]

I hate to be morbid but can you think of a greater profit opportunity than millions of Americans with sick kids willing to pay anything to make it better. If I was a ghoulish big Pharma executive I would be lobbying for RFK to get his position. After all a sick America is the wet dream of every big pharma company not to mention insurance companies, all these fields will make a literal killing off the catastrophy. Those who survive will be lifetime slaves I mean satisfied customers always in need of medical treatment.

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