Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[NED funded]

My fav thing about politics right now is something along the lines of:

I hate when billionaires like george soros pour millions of dollars into our politicians from the shadows.

also

Elon Musk is OWNING THE LIBTARDS right now cry more!!!

if it were a video game it would be hilarious but real life its just sad.

Just a week ago he was threatening to use his vast wealth to primary republicans that disagreed with Trump

Musk is the wealthiest man in the world. They have fully embraced it. It reminds me of dont look up but somehow more stupid

[Draco-Onis]

My fav thing about politics right now is something along the lines of:

I hate when billionaires like george soros pour millions of dollars into our politicians from the shadows.

also

Elon Musk is OWNING THE LIBTARDS right now cry more!!!

if it were a video game it would be hilarious but real life its just sad.

You know if I were Soros I would be thinking dam I was too subtle, Elon has shown how easy it is to buy a government wholesale.

[En Sabah Nur]

You know, a lot of MAGA pushed the "Obama is the one pulling the strings, this is his 3rd term!" bullshit, but I'm having a hard time not thinking this is going to be President Musk's 1st term come the end of January.

[Trumpwonumad]

1:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...wn-1235211000/ (this one's particularly well written.
https://apnews.com/article/governmen...e1270141a02918
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...trump-shutdown
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0e7j94732o
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/19/u...own-trump.html (Paywalled)

Like, literally just google Trump Shutdown, news is bloody everywhere.

2: You expect me to know what the hell is going on in the nest of rabid squirrels that functions as his brain? God only knows what he's thinking.

Best bet though?

It effectively cripples the government until Trump takes power in January, allowing him the pretense of sweeping in to save the day and posturing as the hero who saved the country from Democrat incompetence. He's literally willing to fuck the country over for a month so he can act out his delusions of saviourhood.....

I mean, who cares about all the relief money for hurricane victims, and hard hit farmers, and all that shit, gotta fucking burn the country down before being seen to possibly be willing to actually govern like responsible adults.

Seriously hope you people are stockpiling guillotines, cause you are probably going to need em before the next 4 years are over.
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Somewhat of an aside: Anyone else think there should be immediate government inquiry into how the office of DOGE functions and their fitness for performing their supposed task, if the person in charge of it is literally blasting out lies and false information under it's name on social media? Like, just straight up lying about what was involved in the funding bill? How the fuck is anyone supposed to trust anything coming out of this DOGE thing if they are willing to just bold faced lie about the things they are supposed to be investigating?

The bill has over 1k pages of extra crap in it. Honestly Both sides need to stop shoving extra crap in these bills, Both sides need to stop waiting till the last min before they leave to want to push a funding bill through to fund the government. That bill should not be pasted with all the pork barrel spending in it.

[Gorsameth]

You know if I were Soros I would be thinking dam I was too subtle, Elon has shown how easy it is to buy a government wholesale.

Probably cheaper to.

[Doomcookie]

The bill has over 1k pages of extra crap in it. Honestly Both sides need to stop shoving extra crap in these bills, Both sides need to stop waiting till the last min before they leave to want to push a funding bill through to fund the government. That bill should not be pasted with all the pork barrel spending in it.

The dude pictured in your avatar loves pork spending, and has the biggest budgets in the history of this country.

Are you now retracting your support? Or, are you lying?

[Trumpwonumad]

The dude pictured in your avatar loves pork spending, and has the biggest budgets in the history of this country.

Are you now retracting your support? Or, are you lying?

You know people can disagree and not approve of everything one person does or is about right?

IMO each thing should be brought forth as a bill and voted on not slipped in to another bill like the lets fund the government bill Both sides are guilty of that. Also the house and congress are the ones that present them bills.

[Doomcookie]

You know people can disagree and not approve of everything one person does or is about right?

IMO each thing should be brought forth as a bill and voted on not slipped in to another bill like the lets fund the government bill Both sides are guilty of that. Also the house and congress are the ones that present them bills.

So, it's the latter. That clears it up.

Trump signed them.

[Trumpwonumad]

So, it's the latter. That clears it up.

Trump signed them.

The process is alot more than the president signed them

How a Bill Becomes a Law
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The Bill Begins
Laws begin as ideas. These ideas may come from a Representative—or from a citizen like you. Citizens who have ideas for laws can contact their Representatives to discuss their ideas. If the Representatives agree, they research the ideas and write them into bills.

The Bill Is Proposed
When a Representative has written a bill, the bill needs a sponsor. The Representative talks with other Representatives about the bill in hopes of getting their support for it. Once a bill has a sponsor and the support of some of the Representatives, it is ready to be introduced.

The Bill Is Introduced

The Hopper
In the U.S. House of Representatives, a bill is introduced when it is placed in the hopper—a special box on the side of the clerk’s desk. Only Representatives can introduce bills in the U.S. House of Representatives.

When a bill is introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives, a bill clerk assigns it a number that begins with H.R. A reading clerk then reads the bill to all the Representatives, and the Speaker of the House sends the bill to one of the House standing committees.

The Bill Goes to Committee
When the bill reaches committee, the committee members—groups of Representatives who are experts on topics such as agriculture, education, or international relations—review, research, and revise the bill before voting on whether or not to send the bill back to the House floor.

If the committee members would like more information before deciding if the bill should be sent to the House floor, the bill is sent to a subcommittee. While in subcommittee, the bill is closely examined and expert opinions are gathered before it is sent back to the committee for approval.

The Bill Is Reported
When the committee has approved a bill, it is sent—or reported—to the House floor. Once reported, a bill is ready to be debated by the U.S. House of Representatives.

The Bill Is Debated
When a bill is debated, Representatives discuss the bill and explain why they agree or disagree with it. Then, a reading clerk reads the bill section by section and the Representatives recommend changes. When all changes have been made, the bill is ready to be voted on.

The Bill Is Voted On

Electronic Voting Machine
There are three methods for voting on a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives:

Viva Voce (voice vote): The Speaker of the House asks the Representatives who support the bill to say “aye” and those that oppose it say “no.”
Division: The Speaker of the House asks those Representatives who support the bill to stand up and be counted, and then those who oppose the bill to stand up and be counted.
Recorded: Representatives record their vote using the electronic voting system. Representatives can vote yes, no, or present (if they don’t want to vote on the bill).
If a majority of the Representatives say or select yes, the bill passes in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill is then certified by the Clerk of the House and delivered to the U.S. Senate.

The Bill Is Referred to the Senate
When a bill reaches the U.S. Senate, it goes through many of the same steps it went through in the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill is discussed in a Senate committee and then reported to the Senate floor to be voted on.

Senators vote by voice. Those who support the bill say “yea,” and those who oppose it say “nay.” If a majority of the Senators say “yea,” the bill passes in the U.S. Senate and is ready to go to the President.

The Bill Is Sent to the President
When a bill reaches the President, he has three choices. He can:

Sign and pass the bill—the bill becomes a law.
Refuse to sign, or veto, the bill—the bill is sent back to the U.S. House of Representatives, along with the President’s reasons for the veto. If the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate still believe the bill should become a law, they can hold another vote on the bill. If two-thirds of the Representatives and Senators support the bill, the President’s veto is overridden and the bill becomes a law.
Do nothing (pocket veto)—if Congress is in session, the bill automatically becomes law after 10 days. If Congress is not in session, the bill does not become a law.

The Bill Is a Law
If a bill has passed in both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate and has been approved by the President, or if a presidential veto has been overridden, the bill becomes a law and is enforced by the government

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https://kids-clerk.house.gov/grade-s....html?intID=17

Yes the President signs the bill but it is introduced way before the President, The house and senate needs to stop adding pork barrel spending to these bills and sneaking in extra stuff.

Also you seem to not know how the government works so here

Legislative—Makes laws (Congress, comprised of the House of Representatives and Senate)
Executive—Carries out laws (president, vice president, Cabinet, most federal agencies)
Judicial—Evaluates laws (Supreme Court and other courts).

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Congress confirms or rejects the president’s nominees and can remove the president from office in exceptional circumstances.
The Justices of the Supreme Court, who can overturn unconstitutional laws, are nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate.
This ability of each branch to respond to the actions of the other branches is called the system of checks and balances.

Legislative Branch of the U.S. Government
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Executive Branch of the U.S. Government
The executive branch carries out and enforces laws. It includes the president, vice president, the Cabinet, executive departments, independent agencies, and other boards, commissions, and committees.

American citizens have the right to vote for the president and vice president through free, confidential ballots.

Key roles of the executive branch include:

President —The president leads the country. He or she is the head of state, leader of the federal government, and Commander in Chief of the United States armed forces. The president serves a four-year term and can be elected no more than two times.
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The Cabinet —Cabinet members serve as advisors to the president. They include the vice president, heads of executive departments, and other high-ranking government officials. Cabinet members are nominated by the president and must be approved by a simple majority of the Senate—51 votes if all 100 Senators vote.
Executive Branch Agencies, Commissions, and Committees
Much of the work in the executive branch is done by federal agencies, departments, committees, and other groups.

Judicial Branch of the U.S. Government
The judicial branch interprets the meaning of laws, applies laws to individual cases, and decides if laws violate the Constitution. It is comprised of the Supreme Court and other federal courts.

https://nz.usembassy.gov/u-s-government/

[Doomcookie]

The process is alot more than the president signed them

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Yes the President signs the bill but it is introduced way before the President, The house and senate needs to stop adding pork barrel spending to these bills and sneaking in extra stuff.

Also you seem to not know how the government works so here

Legislative—Makes laws (Congress, comprised of the House of Representatives and Senate)
Executive—Carries out laws (president, vice president, Cabinet, most federal agencies)
Judicial—Evaluates laws (Supreme Court and other courts).

Unlike certain posters, I'm an actual American who knows how the process works, and actually lives in the United States.

You support the guy who had the most pork, and the biggest budgets in the history of this country. You embraced it, and made multiple signatures to brag about embracing it.

[Bodakane]

You know people can disagree and not approve of everything one person does or is about right?

IMO each thing should be brought forth as a bill and voted on not slipped in to another bill like the lets fund the government bill Both sides are guilty of that. Also the house and congress are the ones that present them bills.

Of course they can, but your love of trump and love of country are two diametrically opposed things. You love Trump and hand wave all his lies, but then think everything Biden does is a lie and should be ousted for it. So the evidence is pretty clear that you're a hypocrite. If you wanted the government to run better and more openly, you wouldn't;t have voted for the guy how was successfully impeached twice for underhanded shit.

[Trumpwonumad]

Of course they can, but your love of trump and love of country are two diametrically opposed things. You love Trump and hand wave all his lies, but then think everything Biden does is a lie and should be ousted for it. So the evidence is pretty clear that you're a hypocrite. If you wanted the government to run better and more openly, you wouldn't;t have voted for the guy how was successfully impeached twice for underhanded shit.

Voted for who I felt was the better choice, Don't like it well that's on you better luck in 2028

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Unlike certain posters, I'm an actual American who knows how the process works, and actually lives in the United States.

You support the guy who had the most pork, and the biggest budgets in the history of this country. You embraced it, and made multiple signatures to brag about embracing it.

Again I don't agree with the excess spending and random shit being shoved in to bills and not voted on. I clearly just said that.

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But yes I get it @Bodakane and @Doomcookie you both hate trump, republicans, conversative and anybody that did not vote for the democrap candite Harris that you wanted elected. It's honestly boring and predictable.

[Bodakane]

Voted for who I felt was the better choice, Don't like it well that's on you better luck in 2028

Yes, I know why you voted for him. I'm just pointing out how that makes you hypocrite. It's not about me being a poor sport. It's just a fact, your morals and values are as malleable as playdoh.


Yes, we do hate trump. But for solid reasons. Like he's an awful human being, who raped children on Epstein island, wanted to fuck his own daughter, killed over a 1 million americans due to his ineptitude with the pandemic, destroyed the economy, destroyed our image overseas, was impeached twice, kept top secret documents and literally showed them to anyone he wanted to impress including Kid fucking Rock, then tried to hide them when the government demanded them back, is a fascist by any measure including a number of his generals, used campaign funds to pay off a stripper he cheated on his wife with, admitted to sexual assault on tape, put his son in law into the cabinet who then went on to get $2 billion for himself to cover up a murder of an American citizen by the Saudi government, never divested form any of his businesses and continued to use the office and its power to enrich himself and is such a liar and arrogant, that instead of admitting he was wrong about where a hurricane was going in one of his long winded bullshit sessions, he drew the path with a fucking sharpie because he's that fucking pathetic.

[En Sabah Nur]

Do we really need the walls of ChatGPT text? Hint: no. They're unnecessary.

[Doomcookie]

Voted for who I felt was the better choice, Don't like it well that's on you better luck in 2028

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Again I don't agree with the excess spending and random shit being shoved in to bills and not voted on. I clearly just said that.

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But yes I get it @Bodakane and @Doomcookie you both hate trump, republicans, conversative and anybody that did not vote for the democrap candite Harris that you wanted elected. It's honestly boring and predictable.

Well, Harris isn't a rapist.

It's rather common for Trump supporters such as yourself to backtrack on your stated beliefs, when your blatant hypocrisy is pointed out.

If you didn't agree with it, you wouldn't be championing him, and bragging about supporting a known sexual abuser. Clearly, spending and sexual abuse are not a problem for you.

[Trumpwonumad]

Yes, I know why you voted for him. I'm just pointing out how that makes you hypocrite. It's not about me being a poor sport. Its just a fact, your morals and values are as malleable as playdoh.

You been a poor sport since Nov 5 but cool glad you shared with me your opinion on me. I shall cherish knowing it.

On Topic

ABC agrees to give $15 million to Donald Trump’s presidential library to settle defamation lawsuit

https://apnews.com/article/abc-trump...2a85f4c1a56d68

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Do we really need the walls of ChatGPT text? Hint: no. They're unnecessary.

Not everything is chat gbt.

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Well, Harris isn't a rapist.

It's rather common for Trump supporters such as yourself to backtrack on your stated beliefs, when your blatant hypocrisy is pointed out.

If you didn't agree with it, you wouldn't be championing him, and bragging about supporting a known sexual abuser. Clearly, spending and sexual abuse are not a problem for you.

Neither is trump Did you miss the lawsuit ABC got nailed with ?

[Doomcookie]

You been a poor sport since Nov 5 but cool glad you shared with me your opinion on me. I shall cherish knowing it.

On Topic

ABC agrees to give $15 million to Donald Trump’s presidential library to settle defamation lawsuit

https://apnews.com/article/abc-trump...2a85f4c1a56d68

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Not everything is chat gbt.

Well, you were caught using it multiple times in the past, and you often just google then copy/paste a wall of text about things everyone already knows.

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You been a poor sport since Nov 5 but cool glad you shared with me your opinion on me. I shall cherish knowing it.

On Topic

ABC agrees to give $15 million to Donald Trump’s presidential library to settle defamation lawsuit

https://apnews.com/article/abc-trump...2a85f4c1a56d68

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Not everything is chat gbt.

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Neither is trump Did you miss the lawsuit ABC got nailed with ?

Yes, he is, and that was provided for you. You were even politely directed to all of the links. The entire court ruling of his specific actions, and the findings of the jury were handed to you. What was he found liable for?

Did you not read them?

You have decided you support gigantic budgets and sexual abuse. Your avatar backs it up.

[En Sabah Nur]

Not everything is chat gbt.

Ignoring that you can't spell "GPT" for some reason, my brother in Christ, this is me checking your walls of text in just 2 posts...

[NED funded]

Lol the people demanding this spending bill not be passed are stupid lol

Right now you have something that has been negotiated and mutually agreed upon by both parties to fund emergency stuff, rebuilding efforts and keep the government afloat. If you think youll get that by the coming new congress you are stupid.

But whatever, Ive become a cynic. Let them have what they want. They cry for it. I feel bad for the people that need the emergency relief tho, they are getting ruined by republicans for short term political gains (if that)

[Draco-Onis]

Neither is trump Did you miss the lawsuit ABC got nailed with ?

Based on a technicality of New York law that has been patched Trump isn't a rapist but a sexual assaulter and abuser. So your win is that you fully support the sexual abuse of women...