1. #93921
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Rand back at it again with the worst fucking ideas known to man.

  2. #93922
    Quote Originally Posted by thesilentmajority View Post
    The fact they wait till the last min to try to push though the spending bill is stupid. Adding in all the extra is stupid.
    It is a 1,500-page bill. So, I am sure there is some extra in there. However, all the extras are dwarfed by the $100B aid package for the hurricane and Maui fire victims.

  3. #93923
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It is a 1,500-page bill. So, I am sure there is some extra in there. However, all the extras are dwarfed by the $100B aid package for the hurricane and Maui fire victims.
    They are going to tie those to future tax cuts so it HAS to pass. All this blabbing about clean bill and pork spending will be forgotten in a couple of months and we will get cries about how dare people oppose relief spending or how the tax cuts will make the economy grow so much!

  4. #93924
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It is a 1,500-page bill. So, I am sure there is some extra in there. However, all the extras are dwarfed by the $100B aid package for the hurricane and Maui fire victims.
    Then clean up the bill.

    DOGE already having an impact.

  5. #93925
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Then clean up the bill.

    DOGE already having an impact.
    If by "DOGE" you mean "President Musk," sure?

  6. #93926
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The negotiations for this bill have been going on for months. Do you know how the government works?

    Both parties put country over politics and hashed out a deal to keep the show running while they discuss more long term funding (which failed b4 the previous deadline)

    Now Republicans are putting party over country bc reasons??? Its not even clear what they disagree with on this bill, just that they dont like that democrats have something to do with it
    Well the Dems are the minority/irrelevant party so why should they have any leverage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    If by "DOGE" you mean "President Musk," sure?
    It might even be Speaker of the House Musk, soon!

  7. #93927
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Well the Dems are the minority/irrelevant party so why should they have any leverage?

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    It might even be Speaker of the House Musk, soon!
    DOGE was one of the best things we have seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Well the Dems are the minority/irrelevant party so why should they have any leverage?

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    It might even be Speaker of the House Musk, soon!
    This is the republican party we are talking about. They had to concede to democrats to get the funding on 2023 and had a big leadership infight. Never downplay the power of incompetence

  9. #93929
    Quote Originally Posted by thesilentmajority View Post
    DOGE was one of the best things we have seen.
    Hasn't even started yet.

  10. #93930
    Quote Originally Posted by thesilentmajority View Post
    DOGE was one of the best things we have seen.
    You speak of it as if it is something that happened in the past... are you thinking of the crypto DOGE?

  11. #93931
    If Trump wants to get rid of the debt ceiling, let them lol

    This one of those short term political moves. The moment they loose power they will be begging for it tl comeback lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesilentmajority View Post
    Using chat GBT is not against the rules here and I do have a habit of quoting google yes don't expect alot of posters to click the link



    In make believe made up world he is a rapist in the court of law well ABC is paying 15 million for defamation for saying it, So we gonna go with the real word definition but as I said before you hate trump I get it engaging does not seem productive because its the same regurgitation of insults and fallacies that a blind eye is turned to, With that said best of luck
    Paying 15 million because Trump is a capricious ass that will use the force of government to hurt Disney for WAY more than that 15 million.
    Not because they called a serial abuser a "rapist"
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

  13. #93933
    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    Paying 15 million because Trump is a capricious ass that will use the force of government to hurt Disney for WAY more than that 15 million.
    Not because they called a serial abuser a "rapist"
    Defamation is Defamation and I am glad they were held accountable for it, You can't go calling someone a rapist when they were never convicted for it. Hopefully the woke left psycho culture goes comply away and we can get back to normal sane times

  14. #93934
    "Republicans want to support our farmers, pay for disaster relief, and set our country up for success in 2025,” Trump and Vance said in a statement. “The only way to do that is with a temporary funding bill WITHOUT DEMOCRAT GIVEAWAYS combined with an increase in the debt ceiling. Anything else is a betrayal of our country. Republicans must GET SMART and TOUGH.”

    The days of pork barreling spending bills with the minority party's priorities are OVER, and you can see who is big mad about it.

  15. #93935
    Actually amazing how people actively want their country to fail and suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Actually amazing how people actively want their country to fail and suffer.
    Anything "theorically" to own the libs
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

  17. #93937
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Then clean up the bill.

    DOGE already having an impact.
    Could you list some of the spendings that needed to be cleaned up?

    The $21 billion in disaster relief to farmers and $10 billion in economic aid?

    Which primarily helps farmers in Florida, Texas, and Georgia.

    Florida TaxWatch Highlights Alarming Decline Of State’s Citrus Industry

    Texas’ citrus industry — once an agricultural powerhouse — is on the brink of disaster

    How about year-round sales of gasoline with ethanol? a major win for the corn and soy farmers that have been asking for this for decades.

    How about 8B for Francis Scott Key bridge? Why are we paying for that? Does not affect us in California. Baltimore can rebuild the bridge themselves.

    Some conservatives even argue that the 100B disaster relief should be paid for by cutting funding in other areas. How would they feel if the cuts come from their state's funding share.

    Then there is the pay raise for lawmakers. Which haven't received a raise since 2009. Although, in the greater scheme, that's actually pretty small.
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  18. #93938
    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Actually amazing how people actively want their country to fail and suffer.
    While claiming that what's happening is good.

    It's all very doubleplusgood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Actually amazing how people actively want their country to fail and suffer.
    They don’t know why the fat orange man laughs, they know only that they must cackle when he does.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    While claiming that what's happening is good.

    It's all very doubleplusgood!
    Trump can shit in these fucking idiots hands and they'd like it up and say Mr. Can I Please Have More?

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