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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    Projection.

    Wasn't it the Trump Rally where disaster victims were called garbage?
    Also unacceptable!

    It's ok to call out bad behavior on both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The issues with NC were wild. MAGA people were walking with firearms being actively hostile to emergency workers. Plus the many conspiracy theories that FEMaa was sabotaging the rescue and that even talking to FEMA was bad.
    Then FEMA should have arranged for security to escort their aid workers.

    Simply abandoning Americans in need is never ok.

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    [QUOTE=Somewhatconcerned;54621636
    Simply abandoning Americans in need is never ok.[/QUOTE]

    You willfully supported and voted for someone who did this on purpose. Your "concerns" are handwaved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Also unacceptable!

    It's ok to call out bad behavior on both sides.
    So when are you going to call out Trump for being a convicted rapist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    He's a felon, officially convicted stain on this country. He's an orange little turd that won't flush. Glad he's got the felon tag. It's sad that justice will likely have to be served when he's sucking cock in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    ???

    This is literally not true. They settled on the area once and abandoned it (if you want to make claims about how abandoning a land and still having a historical claim to it then be my guest but its not a game you want to play bc its relevant to many other areas in the world). Their settlement for real and the one that is acknowledged was in the 17th century and even then, it wasn't really a settlement in the way we think of colonies. It was a small Danish population that unilaterally decided that the majority Innuit people living in it were going to be part of a kingdom.

    There was a gap from the 15th Century to the early 18th. The Inuit population was not present during that earlier period. Who else has a greater claim?

    Again, if you're going to point to the indigenous Inuit population, then you're arguing that USA has no claim to literally anything in the USA, either. Denmark's claim on Greenland is stronger than the USA's to the USA; their initial settlement was into an empty land, rather than one where they had to genocide the indigenous population to make room for European colonization.

    You continue to not have any basis whatsoever for your accusation that Denmark's claim is "weak". You just made it up, based on absolutely nothing but your desire to provoke angry responses. You're baiting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    He's an official felon. Your president, the sexual assaulting tax cheat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    You continue to not have any basis whatsoever for your accusation that Denmark's claim is "weak". You just made it up, based on absolutely nothing but your desire to provoke angry responses. You're baiting.
    Don't you know? NED funded is actually an expert on the topic. You can tell because he's shown all his qualifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    He's a felon, officially convicted stain on this country. He's an orange little turd that won't flush. Glad he's got the felon tag. It's sad that justice will likely have to be served when he's sucking cock in hell.
    Don't you see republicans are making history, Democrats elected the first black president republicans have elected the first convicted felon / sexual assaulter etc. The party of law and order ladies and gentlemen living for family values LOL. On a serious note maybe just maybe this will force republicans to repeal all these laws that they have that stop felons from voting and have rights but that's a remote chance.

  9. #94709
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    No, but their mitigation efforts and immediate response to limit damage seems to be better than what CA can provide.

    On a somewhat related note, I hope someone is keeping a close eye on FEMA to make sure they aren't again avoiding certain disaster victims because of political affiliation.
    Then you are simply lying.

    You have stated your only goal is to lie for rapists, so then your comment can be immediately discounted as another lie.

    Why are you lying for rapists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Threats of violence are never ok, but neither is denying Americans emergency aid they need/deserve.

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    "Only one person" but how many victims in the region were affected? This "one person" is in charge of how many people? How big of a region?

    This flippant attitude towards your fellow Americans in a time of need is exactly why you will continue to lose elections, and deservedly so. Surprised you haven't called the disaster victims garbage yet. This attitude needs to stop.
    You supported a violent coup attempt.

    You are fucking lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Also unacceptable!

    It's ok to call out bad behavior on both sides.

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    Then FEMA should have arranged for security to escort their aid workers.

    Simply abandoning Americans in need is never ok.
    You are still lying.

    You not only found it acceptable, you made a point to lie to cover for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    You are still lying.

    You supported all of Trump's wasteful spending.

    Why do you insist on lying for rapists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Surprised you haven't called the disaster victims garbage yet.
    Gonna just skip the rest of the post, because I want to drill down into this blatant projection you've thrown out.

    Why would I call disaster victims "garbage"? I'm not Republican, nor am I trying all I can to make an overwhelmingly awful time for people, especially those that actually died, as political as I possibly can.

    So, please, why would I ever be calling these poor people "garbage"?

    The rest of your post is waffle about my attitude. And yet... this is yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    Gonna just skip the rest of the post, because I want to drill down into this blatant projection you've thrown out.

    Why would I call disaster victims "garbage"?
    You already hit the nail on the head: Projection. They clutch pearls about something that libs might do while ignoring it's literally something that Republicans and/or Donald have already done.

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    https://www.npr.org/2025/01/10/g-s1-...north-carolina

    A man who fired a gun inside a restaurant in the nation's capital after a fake online conspiracy theory called "Pizzagate" motivated him to do so nearly a decade ago was shot and killed by North Carolina police during a weekend traffic stop.

    Edgar Maddison Welch was a passenger in a vehicle stopped by officers in Kannapolis on Saturday night, according to a Kannapolis Police Department news release. One of the officers recognized the car as the vehicle of someone he had arrested and who had an outstanding warrant for a felony probation violation — Welch, police said.

    When the officers approached the vehicle to arrest Welch, police said the man pulled out a handgun and pointed it at one of the officers. After he was instructed to drop the weapon but didn't, two officers shot Welch, authorities said.
    The MAGA Hero of Pizzagate is dead. He drew his gun on a cop, pointed it them, refused to drop it, and got shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edge- View Post
    you already hit the nail on the head: Projection. They clutch pearls about something that libs might do while ignoring it's literally something that republicans and/or donald have already done.

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    the maga hero of pizzagate is dead. He drew his gun on a cop, pointed it them, refused to drop it, and got shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    An explanation about why there isn't much you can do about the fires.
    I lived in San Diego from 1990 - 2020. I swear that the Santa Ana wind episodes seem to get noticeably worse each year. Also, those single digit humidity and sometimes smokey days were getting to me. The humidifiers were barely keeping up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    You already hit the nail on the head: Projection. They clutch pearls about something that libs might do while ignoring it's literally something that Republicans and/or Donald have already done.
    Yeah. Donald Trump out there on the campaign trail calling the entire country a garbage dumb, but I'm somehow expected to be calling people experiencing probably the worst time of their lives garbage... just because?

    The projection could not be any more wild. Probably ties into an earlier post I made, where these people would do exactly that, and they can't imagine anyone not doing the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfd View Post
    They chose the risk of avoiding controlled burns because they did not have the available personnel on hand to be able to do those controlled burns safely because those personnel were off fighting uncontrolled wildfires in other places.

    Why are you intentionally leaving out the most important part of the information? Why are you always, ALWAYS deliberately dishonest?

    Like, can you imagine the shitstorm that would have come down on them if they decided to go ahead with the controlled burns anyway and proceeded to ignite another uncontrolled wildfire because they intentionally started one without the means to properly safely control it?
    I quoted from an article saying that the problem is worrying about who gets blamed, not the management of risk.

    You're making a specific claim, that the personnel were "off fighting uncontrolled wildfires in other places," so I'm sure you have something specific in mind from this last fall that you're just too shy to share. Any rube with an internet connection can make any kinds of assertion that they feel like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It's not only CA. We are simply not doing enough prescribed burns in the Western region to mitigate wildfire risk. Last year we had major wildfires in CA, TX (surely you remember that one), NM, AZ, FL, NV, UT, ID, OR and WA. Until the LA fires, CA actually had a pretty mild fire season.

    Unfortunately, fighting wildfires in CA is more difficult because of the terrain and climate. Most of CA major wildfires are associated with the Santa Ana or Diablo winds. Think of 100 mph wind gusts blowing fires through giant canyons acting like wind tunnels fueled by dry creosote-rich vegetation. These are characteristics specific to CA wildfires only. The difficulty is compounded by homes built along the canyon ridges.
    Thank you for agreeing with me that we are not doing enough prescribed burns in CA.

    The terrain and climate are excellent reasons to undertake such burns at times of our choosing. It's much better in times such as the fall, than to let an arsonist or negligent random dude light it during a major Santa Ana wind period.

    Let's also not forget the insane regulatory hurdles from NEPA and CAA. You can expect 3.6-7.2 years of review before getting one, and something in the tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. Example article with quotes.
    "Although some planning is obviously necessary, Forest Service officials have estimated that improving administrative procedures could shift up to $100 million a year from unnecessary planning to actual project work to restore ecosystems and deliver services on the ground," the agency said in its report.
    For those worried about budgets, that one sounds ripe for reform and recovering poorly spent money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    There was a gap from the 15th Century to the early 18th. The Inuit population was not present during that earlier period. Who else has a greater claim?
    Just so we are clear. Is your argument that people from a kingdom centuries later have a claim over the land despite the people currently living in that land?

    Ooook. Its not the argument you think it is but its a weird one lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Just so we are clear. Is your argument that people from a kingdom centuries later have a claim over the land despite the people currently living in that land?

    Ooook. Its not the argument you think it is but its a weird one lol.
    What's your argument? You've posted some vague sentiments but I don't think you've established that you're a noted expert on Greenland's history or politics.

    That's also literally the current state of affairs for a good chunk of the western world, including the USA, you do realize.

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    Donald Trump the patriot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    The MAGA Hero of Pizzagate is dead.
    Good.

    Ashli Babbitt, now this guy. We need more conspiracy theory martyrs. It will make the world a better place without them being able to go online and continue to spew their bullshit lies and delusions.

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    Donald Trump the patriot
    Donald Trump the little bitch boy thin skinned piece of cock sucking shit. Fixed it for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Just so we are clear. Is your argument that people from a kingdom centuries later have a claim over the land despite the people currently living in that land?

    Ooook. Its not the argument you think it is but its a weird one lol.
    Does the USA have a claim over its land? Yes or no.

    Because you sure don't seem to have an actual point, or any understanding of how any of these things work.

    Until/unless you lay out the universal principles you're applying to discredit Greenland's ownership by Denmark and apply those equally to all territorial claims across the entire world, I have no reason to take you or your arguments seriously. And the only standards you've brought up thus far invalidate the USA as a nation, entirely. Not to mention that it's also a very strong argument that Israel is an invalid nation that should not exist. Weird take from someone who's usually so pro-Israel.
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