Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[diller]

I feel like his upcoming term will be more dangerous than the first one.

He pretty much did nothing that he promised in the first term and I feel this time around he's actually going to do some dangerous shit.

I hope the other American politicians won't allow him to do crazy things like going to war with allies.

[Odinfrost]

If they were to be independent, there's next to nothing they could do, should DrumpF decide to invade and annex it. That's why Trumpkins are cheering for the idea of it separating from Denmark. Taking Greenland from Denmark by force would be....all sorts of catastrophy on many levels.

If Greenland were to become independant, I take a qualified assumption that they will be grandfathered into NATO through Denmark and as such, taking Greenland from themselves by force would still be all sorts of catastrophy.

[En Sabah Nur]

CNN and the cooperate leftist press loves their click bait.

You say this like only left wing media uses clickbait lol

And are we sure CNN are entirely leftist? They put an awful lot of effort into sanewashing shit Trump says.

[Doomcookie]

CNN and the cooperate leftist press loves their click bait. Yea the Economy is doing so well inflation is not a thing

just to be clear, you're now commending Biden for singlehandedly increasing incomes so significantly, right?

[Breccia]

You say this like only left wing media uses clickbait

Also, he had specifically and directly used CNN as clickbait himself. Didn't even read the article. For him to denounce his own sources is especially Trumpian.

[Odinfrost]

The following is obviously satire due to who posted it.



But if it didn't say "The Misinformer" at the top, would any of us really be that surprised he would have said that?

[Draco-Onis]

The following is obviously satire due to who posted it.



But if it didn't say "The Misinformer" at the top, would any of us really be that surprised he would have said that?

At this point I am only surprised when something normal happens, headlines that would usually come from the Onion are the new normal.

[tehdang]

Newsom should have asked me. I could have told him why. The reservoir has been closed for repairs after a covering designed to preserve water quality was torn.

Well, you weren't the only one saying "The same goes for all other Southern California reservoirs [they were full]" and "The problem is not lack of water" and "pumping capacity could not keep up with demand." When it turns out that all 3 are either partially wrong or entirely wrong, most people don't undertake an easy shuffle towards the next excuse. Coincidentally, ones that shield relevant politicians and public officials from blame.

I think you're glossing over it, although you probably know it, so I'll say it here. The solution for responsibility is to govern well and inform the public when you're unable to perform your job responsibilities. Let's say this reservoir was closed for over two years, and we already know that Santa Ana Winds and the terrain make fighting fires difficult and put communities in extreme danger. Why did it take so long? Was a temporary solution for a cover considered? Did anyone inform the public that they were at heightened risk of losing everything due to fire while the nearest reservoir was empty and offline?

I'm not necessarily criticizing your approach, unless you studiously neglect the possibility of institutional and leadership failure.

[Doomcookie]

Well, you weren't the only one saying "The same goes for all other Southern California reservoirs [they were full]" and "The problem is not lack of water" and "pumping capacity could not keep up with demand." When it turns out that all 3 are either partially wrong or entirely wrong, most people don't undertake an easy shuffle towards the next excuse. Coincidentally, ones that shield relevant politicians and public officials from blame.

I think you're glossing over it, although you probably know it, so I'll say it here. The solution for responsibility is to govern well and inform the public when you're unable to perform your job responsibilities. Let's say this reservoir was closed for over two years, and we already know that Santa Ana Winds and the terrain make fighting fires difficult and put communities in extreme danger. Why did it take so long? Was a temporary solution for a cover considered? Did anyone inform the public that they were at heightened risk of losing everything due to fire while the nearest reservoir was empty and offline?

I'm not necessarily criticizing your approach, unless you studiously neglect the possibility of institutional and leadership failure.

You have openly advocated for poor governance.

So, you are lying.

[NED funded]

An interesting part of the California story is, will taxpayers be on the hook for the houses of millionaires because they are using the FAIR plan?

Suppressing premiums on insurance lead to them leaving the state altogether. I think now they are forcing them to cover the fire risk areas so it doesnt look like it will get any better

[caervek]

Holy shit that whole press conference was just the ramblings of a madman.

He wants to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America!!!

I know everyone is laughing at Trump over this, but looking at it with an outside lens his idea does have some merit.

When you think about it, it was named the Gulf of Mexico due to being surrounded by mostly Mexico, but since then a lot of Mexico has been annexed by the USA, and now the gulf is surrounded by mostly the USA so renaming it does actually make a lot of sense (it's sort of like how Siberian tigers were renamed Amur tigers due to their habitat changing).

[Templar 331]

I hope the other American politicians won't allow him to do crazy things like going to war with allies.

Republicans will either cheer it on (MTG/Bimboert) or act like it isn't happening. Democrats will wag their fingers at best.

[Attackrabbit]

I know everyone is laughing at Trump over this, but looking at it with an outside lens his idea does have some merit.

When you think about it, it was named the Gulf of Mexico due to being surrounded by mostly Mexico, but since then a lot of Mexico has been annexed by the USA, and now the gulf is surrounded by mostly the USA so renaming it does actually make a lot of sense (it's sort of like how Siberian tigers were renamed Amur tigers due to their habitat changing).

Not to mention that Mexico is America. Always amuses me when USA people think they are America and no one else when the entirety of North and South America is in fact...America

[Rasulis]

Well, you weren't the only one saying "The same goes for all other Southern California reservoirs [they were full]" and "The problem is not lack of water" and "pumping capacity could not keep up with demand." When it turns out that all 3 are either partially wrong or entirely wrong, most people don't undertake an easy shuffle towards the next excuse. Coincidentally, ones that shield relevant politicians and public officials from blame.

I think you're glossing over it, although you probably know it, so I'll say it here. The solution for responsibility is to govern well and inform the public when you're unable to perform your job responsibilities. Let's say this reservoir was closed for over two years, and we already know that Santa Ana Winds and the terrain make fighting fires difficult and put communities in extreme danger. Why did it take so long? Was a temporary solution for a cover considered? Did anyone inform the public that they were at heightened risk of losing everything due to fire while the nearest reservoir was empty and offline?

I'm not necessarily criticizing your approach, unless you studiously neglect the possibility of institutional and leadership failure.

If it will satisfy you, I'll add clarification to my previous post. "except for reservoirs that are under repair, being upgraded, or currently considered seismically unstable." I think that pretty much covers all the possible exceptions.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

If they were to be independent, there's next to nothing they could do, should DrumpF decide to invade and annex it. That's why Trumpkins are cheering for the idea of it separating from Denmark. Taking Greenland from Denmark by force would be....all sorts of catastrophy on many levels.

On the other side of it...taking Greenland by force right after it created it's own "Independance Day" would also be catastrophic.

[PhaelixWW]

If it will satisfy you, I'll add clarification to my previous post. "except for reservoirs that are under repair, being upgraded, or currently considered seismically unstable." I think that pretty much covers all the possible exceptions.

Or just link the graphic.

[Rasulis]

An interesting part of the California story is, will taxpayers be on the hook for the houses of millionaires because they are using the FAIR plan?

Suppressing premiums on insurance lead to them leaving the state altogether. I think now they are forcing them to cover the fire risk areas so it doesnt look like it will get any better

We'll pay higher premiums for sure. I am okay with higher premiums. However, some homeowners may not be able to afford it. This NPR interview may give some insights. The 1990s even referred in the interview was the Northridge Earthquake. After that seismic event, insurance companies stopped providing earthquake insurance in CA.

MICHEL MARTIN, HOST:

It's too soon to know just how much damage will eventually result from the fires in the LA area, but it's already extensive. And those fires have hit one of the highest-value areas in the nation. Some of the homes affected cost millions of dollars. And for some in the area, insurance was already hard to get. So how might the fires affect the insurance market going forward? KQED reporter Danielle Venton has been looking into this since. She's with us now to tell us what she's found out. Good morning, Danielle.

DANIELLE VENTON, BYLINE: Good morning.

MARTIN: So to start off, will insurance companies have enough money to pay claims for these losses?

VENTON: Yes. Both the industry and outside experts say, yes, people's claims will be paid for in these fires. Insurance companies often carry insurance themselves through something called reinsurance so that they can cover these kinds of disasters. However, there is some concern that the California FAIR plan is so overextended, so overexposed that it might not have enough in the bank to cover losses. The FAIR plan is the state's insurer of last resort. Most states have some version of this, and it's seen an enormous uptake in this area. That's especially after State Farm dropped 70% of its policies in Pacific Palisades neighborhood last year. The FAIR plan really took up that slack. And the Palisades is one of its most exposed areas in the state. They cover homes there worth collectively about $6 billion.

MARTIN: How much can this FAIR plan afford to lose?

VENTON: Not a ton. Last year, the plan's president said they had about 200 million in the bank and about 2.5 billion in reinsurance. So they can cover on their own just about 2.7 billion.

MARTIN: What happens if the damage from these fires goes over that, as seems possible?

VENTON: Well, other insurance companies will pick up the bill and will pass some of those costs on to customers, effectively sharing the cost with the rest of us. Something like that hasn't happened since the '90s, so it's really not clear what that would look like in California, but the additional costs could be spread out over a number of years, making it easier to absorb. But we really won't know what those costs are - if there are any - until after the damage is all assessed.

MARTIN: So I'm sorry. I apologize if I'm asking you to speculate here, but you've been looking into this. So how could these fires change the insurance market in the state going forward?

VENTON: California has had a real insurance crisis over the past five years with companies pulling back coverage, even leaving the state. And the remaining companies have increased prices a lot, especially in wildfire areas. But the state, just two weeks ago, completed a major overhaul of insurance regulations. These were designed to lure companies back into wanting to write more coverage in the state, and these are the biggest changes in 30 years.

MARTIN: OK, so this just happened, but did they appear to be working?

VENTON: There were some early indications that, yes, companies were interested in these changes. Farmers said they were going to write more policies. Allstate also expressed approval. And the hope was that more competition among businesses would moderate prices, but these fires really threaten that progress. Here's what Michael Wara - he's a climate and energy expert at Stanford University - told me.

MICHAEL WARA: Man, you know, the rate increases we've had, which have been extreme, especially for the people in the high-risk areas - that is a preview at this point of what is to come.

VENTON: And what he's really worried about is if the reinsurance companies - which, you know, the state can't force to stay - if they raise their prices too much, what that might do to the market in California. And of course, you know, that's the insurance company's safety net, and what happens there is still to be seen.

MARTIN: That is KQED's Danielle Venton. Danielle, thank you.

VENTON: Thank you.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Facts are meaningless. This is the lie they have decided to pretend is the truth.

[Gorsameth]

We'll pay higher premiums for sure. I am okay with higher premiums. However, some homeowners may not be able to afford it. This NPR interview may give some insights. The 1990s even referred in the interview was the Northridge Earthquake. After that seismic event, insurance companies stopped providing earthquake insurance in CA.

If you don't want to pay through the nose for insurance maybe don't build in area's prone to wildfires...

[NED funded]

We'll pay higher premiums for sure. I am okay with higher premiums. However, some homeowners may not be able to afford it. This NPR interview may give some insights. The 1990s even referred in the interview was the Northridge Earthquake. After that seismic event, insurance companies stopped providing earthquake insurance in CA.

Yeah a lot of the changes wrt housing in California feel insanely short term.

The new policy of letting insurers raise the premiums but forcing them to cover fire prone areas feels like having your cake and eating it too.

https://apnews.com/article/californi...90db06d230f1d1

The issue is obvious, people should not be living in those areas straight up. But its already done