Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PhaelixWW]

Ah yes, shift the blame to the stupid masses and voters. That worked well.

That's where the blame rests. They're the ones who voted in a rapist, a felon, an insurrectionist. And all because they stupidly believed that he would improve their life.

Which he won't.

And do note that I was singling out:

...the few percent who shifted the wrong direction this time.

But they'll have their "come to Jesus moment", too. 2026 can't arrive soon enough.

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I love how A vocal minority has a temper tantrum they lost in 2024, Sorry the American people spoke. The democraps should really reflect, rethink & take accountability Stop putting up candidates that are highly unpopular and disliked or Lose in 2028. Seeing how the American people are being blamed for the failures of the Democraps I expect we will keep seeing the same A vocal minority upset when they lose in 2028

Lulz.

49.8%: "The American people spoke!"
48.4%: "Highly unpopular and disliked candidate!"

Go ahead, pigeon. You show that chess board who's boss.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I love how A vocal minority has a temper tantrum they lost in 2024, Sorry the American people spoke. The democraps should really reflect, rethink & take accountability Stop putting up candidates that are highly unpopular and disliked or Lose in 2028. Seeing how the American people are being blamed for the failures of the Democraps I expect we will keep seeing the same A vocal minority upset when they lose in 2028

I think whatever "temper tantrum" you think you are seeing from the democrats losing the 2024 election plaes in comparison to the actual temper tantrum the republicans had from losing the 2020 election.

[PhaelixWW]

No insurrection attempt ever happened. Terms like 'insurrection' or 'attempting to overthrow' have precise juridical contents, and while allegations or events have been widely debated, accountability needs due process and evidence established in court.

And Trump was found in a court of law to be an insurrectionist.

[Draco-Onis]

Those states don't vote for them anyway and people from other states are to stupid to notice they could be next.

They actually do virtually every blue state has deep red districts where republicans get seats in the house of representatives. Since republican margins in the house is razor thin this is the path to political suicide. For example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Fong

[postman1782]

I love how A vocal minority has a temper tantrum they lost in 2024, Sorry the American people spoke. The democraps should really reflect, rethink & take accountability Stop putting up candidates that are highly unpopular and disliked or Lose in 2028. Seeing how the American people are being blamed for the failures of the Democraps I expect we will keep seeing the same A vocal minority upset when they lose in 2028

You aren't a majority, only 30% of the country voted Trump. More people voted against him.

[s_bushido]

You aren't a majority, only 30% of the country voted Trump. More people voted against him.

The irony of a MAGAt pretending that it's everyone else who throws a tantrum after they lose is apparently lost on this one. But I guess since the people in power for the last 4 years pretended Jan 6th never happened, he can too.

[Edge-]

The irony of a MAGAt pretending that it's everyone else who throws a tantrum after they lose is apparently lost on this one. But I guess since the people in power for the last 4 years pretended Jan 6th never happened, he can too.

It's wild, nobody has stormed the capitol or even sued to overturn the election, yet.

[s_bushido]

It's wild, nobody has stormed the capitol or even sued to overturn the election, yet.

We're just biding our time, waiting for the perfect moment to pounce. *tents fingers*

[Breccia]

We have a statement from the Danish Prime Minister.

Denmark's prime minister, Mette Frederiksen, told President-elect Donald Trump that Greenland's independence would be up to the Danish self-governing territory.

Frederiksen and Trump spoke over the phone on Wednesday, according to a press release from the prime minister's office. In the conversation, Frederiksen "argued that it is up to Greenland itself to make a decision on independence" while acknowledging that Greenland's prime minister, Múte Egede, has said it is not for sale.

During Frederiksen's Wednesday call with Trump, the prime minister emphasized the importance of strengthening security in the Arctic and the economic contributions that Danish companies make to U.S. jobs and growth. The two leaders also discussed the war in Ukraine, the situation in the Middle East and relationships with China.

According to Frederiksen's office, the conversation lasted 45 minutes.

Although Egede made it clear during a Sunday news conference that Greenland did not want to become part of America, he said, "The reality is we are going to work with the U.S.—yesterday, today and tomorrow."

And apparently there's more.

'In the conversation, the Prime Minister emphasized the importance of strengthening security in the Arctic, and that the Kingdom of Denmark is ready to shoulder even greater responsibility for this,' according to Frederiksen's office.

'In the conversation, the Prime Minister referred to the statements of the Chairman of the Greenlandic Parliament, Múte B. Egede, that Greenland is not for sale, and the Prime Minister has argued that it is up to Greenland itself to make a decision on independence,' the statement continued.

No, Trump supporters, you aren't buying Greenland. And you aren't taking it by force from a NATO ally.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

More people voted against him.

Well that's not accurate. ~77 million voters voted for Trump. ~75 million voted for Harris. ~780 thousand voted for Stein. and ~750 thousand voted for Kennedy.

~90 million didn't vote at all.

[PhaelixWW]

Well that's not accurate. ~77 million voters voted for Trump. ~75 million voted for Harris. ~780 thousand voted for Stein. and ~750 thousand voted for Kennedy.

...and another 1.03m voted for someone other than those top four, which means that 50.1% of votes cast were against Trump.

[s_bushido]

We have a statement from the Danish Prime Minister.

No, Trump supporters, you aren't buying Greenland. And you aren't taking it by force from a NATO ally.

It will never not be wild to me that adults who are "world leaders" have to actually have conversations with this orange toddler. It would be pretty fascinating to be in the room with them before/after these calls.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

...and another 1.03m voted for someone other than those top four, which means that 50.1% of votes cast were against Trump.

Sure... we can hang on that .1% as saying "The majority of voters voted against Trump". But, along the same lines we also have to say that "The majority of voters voted against Harris."

[Azadina]

Sure... we can hang on that .1% as saying "The majority of voters voted against Trump". But, along the same lines we also have to say that "The majority of voters voted against Harris."

I believe the wording was 'more people' not 'majority of voters'. A subtle distinction.

[Kaleredar]

It will never not be wild to me that adults who are "world leaders" have to actually have conversations with this orange toddler. It would be pretty fascinating to be in the room with them before/after these calls.

I kind of wish world leaders would just kind of realize they sort of... don't have to care about Trump.

Like, nobody in the United States takes Trump seriously. Hell, his followers especially don't take him seriously.

Trump is like North Korea. Dictatorial and insane, but ultimately full of hot air. By engaging with him on any level, you just give him what he wants: attention. Trump doesn't control the levers of power directly enough and frankly isn't smart enough to be truly vengeful, because that kind of geopolitical scheming takes a level of adroitness and competence he simply doesn't have. All he can kind of bring about is targeted neglect by refusing to give things others promised.

[PhaelixWW]

Sure... we can hang on that .1% as saying "The majority of voters voted against Trump". But, along the same lines we also have to say that "The majority of voters voted against Harris."

That's redundant; she didn't win.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

That's redundant; she didn't win.

Not necessarily. You can win the popular vote and still lose the election. Just ask Hillary Clinton.

In this case, Trump won both. Maybe not a majority of the votes...but a Plurality.

Anyway. The point is that you can say that "More people voted against Donald Trump than for him" And that is absolutely true. But that applies to every candidate in this election.

[s_bushido]

I kind of wish world leaders would just kind of realize they sort of... don't have to care about Trump.

Like, nobody in the United States takes Trump seriously. Hell, his followers especially don't take him seriously.

Trump is like North Korea. Dictatorial and insane, but ultimately full of hot air. By engaging with him on any level, you just give him what he wants: attention. Trump doesn't control the levers of power directly enough and frankly isn't smart enough to be truly vengeful, because that kind of geopolitical scheming takes a level of adroitness and competence he simply doesn't have. All he can kind of bring about is targeted neglect by refusing to give things others promised.

Unfortunately, I don't think it works that way. They have to deal with him because they have to deal with the US. If for no other reason than economically.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I believe the wording was 'more people' not 'majority of voters'. A subtle distinction.

A distinction without a difference. It amounts to the same thing in this case.

"A majority of voters voted against Trump"

"More voters voted against Trump than for Trump"

It doesn't matter because you can make those same two statements about Harris or any other candidate.

You can say "50.1% of the country voted against Trump"...but ~51% voted against Harris.

And then there is the 90 million or so that just couldn't give a fuck.

[Kaleredar]

Unfortunately, I don't think it works that way. They have to deal with him because they have to deal with the US. If for no other reason than economically.

I understand that, but again... Trump isn't actually handling any of those decisions. He's not smart enough.

Of course, "standing up to Trump" could sell well in their respective countries, I suppose.