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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I’d guess the real reason is him being afraid of the third attempted assassination being the charm, so to speak.
    I think he's going to be worried about that for at least the next four years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Anyways, it's twoo cwold for bitch boy Trump so he'll be having his inauguration inside.
    It's supposed to be, what, -5C or something? I've shovelled my driveway in shorts and slides in -5, as long as it's not too windy and the snow's not deep. And if "I should really put pants and real shoes on with a light jacket" is the bitter cold they're dealing with, yeah, that's fuckin' silly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    Moving it inside has absolutely fucked so many people over, too. I've seen posts of people saying they paid upwards of $5000 to get there, now their tickets are "commemorative" and they can't attend. All because it might be a bit chilly. Literally keeping all the rich folks nice and warm inside while his supporters are left out of in the cold.

    But that's ok, because Trump has basically quadrupled his net worth with a meme coin this weekend, right before he's inaugurated America... working as intended.
    They get to freeze outside while the richers and tech bros stay close and warm inside.

    A glimpse into the next 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    They get to freeze outside while the richers and tech bros stay close and warm inside.

    A glimpse into the next 4 years.
    over-under on Trump not paying various transportation services, once again leaving his followers standing out in adverse weather?

    I mean it'd only be the... third... time that happened? Maybe 4th or 5th?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    I never supported Gaetz.

    I've said all along that the only two things I'm looking forward to are DOGE and RFK Jr trying to clean up our food.
    You support Trump, who is also a fucking pedo, shut the fuck up. Oh, and so is RFK jr and Elon Musk, they are both tied to Epstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    I've said all along that the only two things I'm looking forward to are DOGE and RFK Jr trying to clean up our food.
    The GOP always say they're going to make the government more efficient and cut spending. They never do.

    RFK won't be confirmed. He's not friendly to the various healthcare companies or corporate farmers. Big sugar alone is sharpening their knives as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    You've all been mostly wrong ever since the Mueller report dropped. And you still don't see the new reality around you.
    Were you wrong about supporting Trump for his rape and attempt to overthrow the election?

    Or, do you consider those to be good things?

    Were you wrong when you said the Dems were gone for a generation in 2018?

    How about 2020 when you said the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    It's supposed to be, what, -5C or something? I've shovelled my driveway in shorts and slides in -5, as long as it's not too windy and the snow's not deep. And if "I should really put pants and real shoes on with a light jacket" is the bitter cold they're dealing with, yeah, that's fuckin' silly.
    At his age, being a second William Henry Harrison is not unlikely tbf

    Donald is very old, and clearly physically unhealthy already. Having to stand, let alone in chilly weather could very be the end of him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    It's supposed to be, what, -5C or something? I've shovelled my driveway in shorts and slides in -5, as long as it's not too windy and the snow's not deep. And if "I should really put pants and real shoes on with a light jacket" is the bitter cold they're dealing with, yeah, that's fuckin' silly.
    If it were in Ohio, I could see it as it is supposed to be 0F or lower. Something like near -20C and that isn't taking in wind chill.

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    The level of money laundering and corruption already taking place is astounding with the new cryptocurrency. I sure would love to know which billionaires/groups/countries have already bought which favors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    The level of money laundering and corruption already taking place is astounding with the new cryptocurrency. I sure would love to know which billionaires/groups/countries have already bought which favors.
    Trump's treasury secretary openly said his top priority is to give 4 trillion dollars in tax cuts to our oligarch welfare queens. We can forget about any crypto regulation and Saudi Arabia will probably get a nuke. There's going to be so much I doubt we are going to be able to keep up with it all, this is just a replay of Putin's Russia at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    In cities with older infrastructure, they try to minimize digging streets and sidewalks. Not only do they have to replace in kind, but they have to maintain traffic and access to businesses and residences during construction. The construction will also have to take into account all the existing utilities (water, sewer, reclaimed water, fire hydrant lines, storm drain, fiber optics, gas lines, underground cisterns, etc.) Then there is right of way acquisition which meant they have to obtain right of way sharing agreement with other agencies. Those poles are also usually leased to other companies' lines, mainly communication companies. They can't get rid of the lines without terminating the leases. The whole operations get expensive very fast.
    Yet the same thing has happened in cities all over Europe in the last 20-30 years, it's odd that these things always appear to be insurmountable in the US!

    I completely get that it's not possible in some areas with frequent seismic activity, that is why they don't do it much in countries like Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    Yet the same thing has happened in cities all over Europe in the last 20-30 years, it's odd that these things always appear to be insurmountable in the US!
    It's a matter of infrastructure.

    Shutting down streets systematically in Europe might be more easy if public transportation, upon which the majority of the populace relies, is adapted around the construction and is robust enough that any given block/avenue that's shut down is largely inconsequential to the overall transportation network.

    But systematically shutting down streets in US cities, where cars are king? Large cities in the US are already traffic nightmares infinitely complicated by street closures, and public transportation is sparse such that taking out one stretch of road necessary for a lynchpin of public transport would massively gum up the works. And then doing that for weeks... months... years on end? You're going to have the public at large real unhappy with the elected officials of the city. Especially for no immediately apparent benefit.


    Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying to not update infrastructure and put it under ground. But know that it's not simply a logistical hurdle of digging a hole and sticking a power line in it.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    The temperature is an excuse

    I’d guess the real reason is him being afraid of the third attempted assassination being the charm, so to speak.

    Trump: smallest inauguration crowd ever?
    he cares more about the potential photos of an mostly empty field than some attempt from a grassy knole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    over-under on Trump not paying various transportation services, once again leaving his followers standing out in adverse weather?

    I mean it'd only be the... third... time that happened? Maybe 4th or 5th?
    Good news, he's not leaving his followers standing out in adverse weather!

    He's telling them they can't come at all, and that the tickets they spent money on are now "commemorative."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    It's supposed to be, what, -5C or something?
    -6C, I believe. For reference, the last time an inauguration was held indoors was 1985, because it was going to be -14C with a windchill of -32C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    he cares more about the potential photos of an mostly empty field than some attempt from a grassy knole
    I don't doubt that aspect of it, but I do doubt Trump's introspection to foresee that he's not actually the bigliest, greatest man ever who will have more crowds than every other inauguration combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Also I need to find the article, but I saw one estimate that only puts that Trump tariffs at about $2,000 annual cost per household. That's it? That's not even $200 a month. Will be easily countered by tax cuts and lower energy prices which in turn usually lowers the prices of good. IMO a small price to pay.
    It never ceases to amaze me how absolutely, gobsmackingly ignorant you can be while shilling for the incoming clusterfuck of an administration.

    You think 2k per household isn't going to have an impact? Are you forgetting that something like 60+% of the US population is effectively barely above the poverty line, living practically paycheck to paycheck, where a single unexpected major expense is likely to financially cripple them? Increasing their annual expenses by 2k a year will absolutely fuck over huge swathes of people who are barely clinging on.

    Tax cuts? That 60% I just mentioned? Tax cuts for their bracket of income will be peanuts. Like, fucking pennies. It'll be a drop of water into a bone dry bathtub.

    Energy prices? Nothing's going to happen to energy prices. Hell, energy prices may go up, since Trump is determined to piss off Canada, who've been providing your entire eastern seaboard electricity at sub-standard rates for decades. Wanna take a bet on what energy prices are going to do if Canada decides that that arrangement needs to change?

    Also, you completely ignored the fact that a literal fuckload of trade occurs between Canada and the USA. ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of that is going to be impacted by Trump's trade war. 2k extra costs out of your pocket because of Trump's tariff fuckery isn't going to mean squat to all the people who could potentially lose their jobs as a result of the fallout across supply chains and industries that rely on Canadian imports to survive.

    If Trump goes through with his plans, he's going to rapidly find out that people don't really just "accept the hardship" when they are capable of putting a name and a face to their pain, and he's likely to end up with angry mobs who want his head on a platter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfd View Post
    Also, you completely ignored the fact that a literal fuckload of trade occurs between Canada and the USA. ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of that is going to be impacted by Trump's trade war.
    Yeah, Canada and Mexico are our two biggest trading partners. Trump promised 25% tariffs on all imports from them. You don't think that's gonna raise the fuck out of a ton of prices across the board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    They get to freeze outside while the richers and tech bros stay close and warm inside.

    A glimpse into the next 4 years.
    I'm getting real "animals staring in the window at the pigs and humans inside" vibes from this.

    Unfortunately, the kind of people that could learn a lesson from that probably think it's a kids book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Yeah, Canada and Mexico are our two biggest trading partners. Trump promised 25% tariffs on all imports from them. You don't think that's gonna raise the fuck out of a ton of prices across the board?
    It's going to be a lot more about how the tariffs shift business around. 25% is a massive price hike. What happens if businesses just close up shop because they can no longer afford to import Canadian products. Products they CAN'T source anywhere else.

    And Canada's potential retaliations could hurt just as bad. Like, Canada ships a shitload of meat to the US because we don't have the in house processing capacity to butcher it. So what happens to all those American jobs if Canada decides to say: you want to fuck us over? Fine, we'll increase Canadian capacity and all those jobs will move north of the border.

    This kind of shit has the potential to affect hundreds of thousands of people's livelyhoods. They aren't going to just stand by and suck that up on vague promises that things will get better if you just eat the pain.

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