Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[En Sabah Nur]

Biden's EO was symbolic only, it wasn't doing anything tangible to lower prices.

Brother, you are terrible at this.

Symbolic? OK, then you don't need to do anything about it, surely?
Wasn't doing anything? Again, nothing that needed to be done about it if that was the case (it wasn't), right?

Do you just not expect anyone to actually read about things? We're not all so clearly uneducated on the things we talk about.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Reminder that this was also the case in 2017-2018, in case conservatives are forgetting a short 8 years ago.

Duh, it was done to reverse it because it is as specifically something Biden did. He did the same to Obama. Biden did the same to Trump. It doesn't go any deeper than that.

[Edge-]

Duh, it was done to reverse it because it is as specifically something Biden did. He did the same to Obama. Biden did the same to Trump. It doesn't go any deeper than that.

What the fuck are you talking about? Did you read your own quoted post I was responding to? You're so fucking excited you're confusing yourself, lol.

[Draco-Onis]

Reminder that this was also the case in 2017-2018, in case conservatives are forgetting a short 8 years ago.

The good side of this situation if you want to call it that is that all these people have gigantic egos just like Trump with often contradictory goals. They are going to be turning on each other left and right just like the first Trump term, it's what kept him from being effective it was game of thrones on steroids.

[Azadina]

Never, stop the fear mongering.

Plus they already control all the major institutions and there is no "resistance" this time.

Time to root for America to succeed.

So what you're saying, is that several steps forward can be skipped straight up? Is there Kremas being built up, by chance? Or still being decided on how many, and which locations?

[DarkAmbient]

I know nobody here will agree with this opinion piece, and I don't agree with all of it, but a few things stood out to me:

“Great presidents are unifiers mostly in retrospect,” he told me. Most great presidents, he later wrote, “divided the nation before reuniting it on a new level of national understanding.”

And more importantly,

"That contest may be more effective if opponents embrace the reality that Trump has already demonstrated some familiar signatures of the most consequential presidents. Like influential predecessors, his arguments have shifted the terms of debate in ways that echo within both parties — in this case, on issues such as trade, China, and the role of big corporations."


Unfortunately, Dems won't realize this and continue to run as "not Trump" or even worse, continue to chastise voters who have already wholly rejected their current-day ideology.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ident-00199564

There hasn't been a great president since FD Roosevelt. Trump is the proverbial pigeon on the chessboard. He has neither the character nor the brains to envisage or implement the kind of changes that would make him a great president. His motivation to run came not from a desire to improve the lives of his fellow citizens, but from the narcissistic injury he suffered from Obama's roasting of him. His aims are power and revenge.

He's yet to finalise his political legacy, but history will remember him as a man unfit for high office, a deeply flawed individual with none of the redeeming qualities that saved the reputations of other leaders whose personal qualities left a lot to be desired.

[En Sabah Nur]

His aims are power and revenge.

And avoiding jail.

[Timester]

Never, stop the fear mongering.

Plus they already control all the major institutions and there is no "resistance" this time.

Time to root for America to succeed.

No no, the question is simple. How many days until the Night of the Long Knives Part 2 Electric Boogaloo in your opinion?

[Pannonian]

Sure, but how many days until the Night of the Long Knives Part 2 Electric Boogaloo in your opinion?

As this was asked a few times already: I don't think there will be one. The night of the long knives was mostly about the direction the nazi party should go. Röhm wanted to regulate industry (and nationalise!) - kind of like national... socialism! - while Hitler on the other hand wanted to ally with the capitalists.

I don't see this anywhere in the trump movement. There is no push to actually better the life of the people or increase the living standard. It's only about enriching themselves, and when it comes to this i see no difference between Trump, Musk, Vance and all the other grifters...


Talking about a new Reichskristallnach though... Chicago? Today?

[Bwgmon]

Never, stop the fear mongering.

Plus they already control all the major institutions and there is no "resistance" this time.

Time to root for America to succeed.

My grandfather lost a leg and nearly died fighting the nazis in WWII, your suggestion that we should celebrate this new wave because "there's no resistance" is actually fucking sickening.

If the US survives this, I hope we lose our position as the world's financial superpower, because lord knows we're proving that we can't be trusted with that kind of authority anymore.

[Elder Millennial]

The good side of this situation if you want to call it that is that all these people have gigantic egos just like Trump with often contradictory goals. They are going to be turning on each other left and right just like the first Trump term, it's what kept him from being effective it was game of thrones on steroids.

The infighting and internal competition and disagreement and backstabbing is often a feature of Fascism.

It was the case with Italian fascism, possibly the mildest forms of fascism we've seen in the 20th century. It was very much the case in Germany especially where the SA, SS and the Party itself were competing and backstabbing each other internally. It was the case in Spain where the Falangists and the technocrats from the Opus Dei absolutely fucking hated each other and basically disagreed on everything except that they didn't like democracy, it was the case in Argentina where Peron and the various military Juntas would cyclically coup each other, hell...it's the case in Russia right now etc.

The infighting never stopped any of these groups from persecuting people, from starting wars, from causing terrible damage.

[Timester]

As this was asked a few times already: I don't think there will be one. The night of the long knives was mostly about the direction the nazi party should go. Röhm wanted to regulate industry (and nationalise!) - kind of like national... socialism! - while Hitler on the other hand wanted to ally with the capitalists.

I don't see this anywhere in the trump movement. There is no push to actually better the life of the people or increase the living standard. It's only about enriching themselves, and when it comes to this i see no difference between Trump, Musk, Vance and all the other grifters...


Talking about a new Reichskristallnach though... Chicago? Today?

Sure, the reasons might be different, but there will be a Night of Long Knives Part 2. We already started seeing the seeds with Elon vs Bannon. It's very common among these types of movements,

And you are absolutely correct, Adolph (influenced by Goering) let the german oligarchs to win, and it will be the same again.

[Kiria]

My grandfather lost a leg and nearly died fighting the nazis in WWII, your suggestion that we should celebrate this new wave because "there's no resistance" is actually fucking sickening.

If the US survives this, I hope we lose our position as the world's financial superpower, because lord knows we're proving that we can't be trusted with that kind of authority anymore.

If it comes to it, I will definitely join the fight against America, my ancestors didnt die for these ignorant arseholes to come thinking they can do a 4th Reich, I don't care if we are outnumbered we will have will and determination aswell as justice on our side against the machine of hate.

[Edge-]

https://doge.gov/

le memes have arrived

much epic

very wow

amaze

[Timester]

https://doge.gov/

le memes have arrived

much epic

very wow

amaze

Must keep feeding the masses with stupidity.

[Gabriel]

https://doge.gov/

le memes have arrived

much epic

very wow

amaze

Epic meme XD

Sieg bros!

[Edge-]

I wonder, does Leon still own a shitton of the doge memecoin? Is this just going to be the most epic pump-n-dump scheme of all time? It's actually very likely!

[Pannonian]

Sure, the reasons might be different, but there will be a Night of Long Knives Part 2. We already started seeing the seeds with Elon vs Bannon. It's very common among these types of movements,

And you are absolutely correct, Adolph (influenced by Goering) let the german oligarchs to win, and it will be the same again.

Agree on the Bannon vs. Elon thing, i forgot about that. Still, i'd rather say its a Todt vs. Speer thing, as both are at the end of the day fighting for approval of Führer Donald. They're not challenging the Führer like Röhm did (or at least what Himmler told Adolf...).

Still, i agree there will be a falling out, though i don't think it will be that bloody. Probably one of them will get sidelined. I actually think both of them, as Trump just does not really care about ideology, and ideologes are most of the times annoying to people like trump are only in for themself. I'd wager Bannon goes first as he is more radical, but there is always the chance of Elons ego clashing with Trumps.

[Somewhatconcerned]

No no, the question is simple. How many days until the Night of the Long Knives Part 2 Electric Boogaloo in your opinion?

I already answered your question, and this will be the last time I address this.

[Elder Millennial]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ts-2025-01-21/

The purge has begun. They'll start with the "low hanging fruit". You know, branches like the Coast Guard, female commander...they'll soon move onto the army, navy, marines etc.