Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Somewhatconcerned]

No no, the question is simple. How many days until the Night of the Long Knives Part 2 Electric Boogaloo in your opinion?

I already answered your question, and this will be the last time I address this.

[Elder Millennial]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ts-2025-01-21/

The purge has begun. They'll start with the "low hanging fruit". You know, branches like the Coast Guard, female commander...they'll soon move onto the army, navy, marines etc.

[Gabriel]

I wonder, does Leon still own a shitton of the doge memecoin? Is this just going to be the most epic pump-n-dump scheme of all time? It's actually very likely!

It's not even the most epic pump-n-dump scheme this week.

Let that sink in.

[Somewhatconcerned]

My grandfather lost a leg and nearly died fighting the nazis in WWII, your suggestion that we should celebrate this new wave because "there's no resistance" is actually fucking sickening.

If the US survives this, I hope we lose our position as the world's financial superpower, because lord knows we're proving that we can't be trusted with that kind of authority anymore.

What are you even talking about?

I said we should root for America to succeed. And you're saying we should lose our world standing. Literally rooting against your own country/citizens.

Put aside the tribalism.

[Timester]

Agree on the Bannon vs. Elon thing, i forgot about that. Still, i'd rather say its a Todt vs. Speer thing, as both are at the end of the day fighting for approval of Führer Donald. They're not challenging the Führer like Röhm did (or at least what Himmler told Adolf...).

Still, i agree there will be a falling out, though i don't think it will be that bloody. Probably one of them will get sidelined. I actually think both of them, as Trump just does not really care about ideology, and ideologes are most of the times annoying to people like trump are only in for themself. I'd wager Bannon goes first as he is more radical, but there is always the chance of Elons ego clashing with Trumps.

Oh, I'm not calling blood on the streets, the times are different, people are too coward to even consider it.

But that the moviment, with a senile old guy with no heir and with 4 years timing clock, will start eating itself. The question is when, something that we should keeping asking to "concerned" people. It's not even about the Republican Party, that one is pretty much gone.

[Edge-]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ts-2025-01-21/

The purge has begun. They'll start with the "low hanging fruit". You know, branches like the Coast Guard, female commander...they'll soon move onto the army, navy, marines etc.

WOMEN, in our MILITARY? Do you realize that WOMEN can't fight? That they'll DESROY UNIT COHESION because men are incapable of serving alongside women? Don't you know WOMEN are prone to emotional outbursts?

I mean, just ask the possibly incoming Secretary of Defense. Or the multiple wives he cheated on, and IIRC drunkenly abused too. He knows all about this, he was a (bad/mediocre) platoon leader one time.

[Timester]

What are you even talking about?

I said we should root for America to succeed. And you're saying we should lose our world standing. Literally rooting against your own country/citizens.

Put aside the tribalism.

Not working, tribalism is the core of the new administration. So, when? Really hurts thinking about the truth, doesn't it?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ts-2025-01-21/

The purge has begun. They'll start with the "low hanging fruit". You know, branches like the Coast Guard, female commander...they'll soon move onto the army, navy, marines etc.

That just made my question of "when" even more on the point. It always starts in the barracks.

[Somewhatconcerned]

WOMEN, in our MILITARY? Do you realize that WOMEN can't fight? That they'll DESROY UNIT COHESION because men are incapable of serving alongside women? Don't you know WOMEN are prone to emotional outbursts?

I mean, just ask the possibly incoming Secretary of Defense. Or the multiple wives he cheated on, and IIRC drunkenly abused too. He knows all about this, he was a (bad/mediocre) platoon leader one time.

"But a senior DHS official told Fox News that Fagan was relieved due to border security concerns, recruitment and acquisition issues and an “erosion of trust” following an internal investigation into sexual assault cases at the Coast Guard Academy. "

Ironically, she was likely fired because she wasn't protecting the WOMEN under her command enough But don't let the facts get in the way of a narrative.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...-fagan-ousted/

[Rasulis]

What are you even talking about?

I said we should root for America to succeed. And you're saying we should lose our world standing. Literally rooting against your own country/citizens.

Put aside the tribalism.

The US can't succeed if the rest of the world is in chaos. Withdrawing from the Paris Accord was a bad decision. We'll likely be ceding green energy technology sector to China and India. Withdrawing from the WHO, while there is the potential that we may be at the start of a bird flu pandemic, is just nuts.

[tehdang]

It's still insane to me that a man that spearheaded an insurrection was allowed to run as a presidential candidate. He should be in jail for treason.

More insane to you should be the fact that he was never tried for treason nor insurrection by an administration that ran around saying it saved democracy from fascists and extreme MAGA. They bungled it so much that some charges hilariously sought to criminalize core presidential executive powers, which got slapped down at the Supreme Court, and delayed certain cases so long that they couldn't be settled prior to an election.

The only booby prize is you get to call him a convicted felon for the duration of a long appeals process.

I know nobody here will agree with this opinion piece, and I don't agree with all of it, but a few things stood out to me:

“Great presidents are unifiers mostly in retrospect,” he told me. Most great presidents, he later wrote, “divided the nation before reuniting it on a new level of national understanding.”

And more importantly,

"That contest may be more effective if opponents embrace the reality that Trump has already demonstrated some familiar signatures of the most consequential presidents. Like influential predecessors, his arguments have shifted the terms of debate in ways that echo within both parties — in this case, on issues such as trade, China, and the role of big corporations."


Unfortunately, Dems won't realize this and continue to run as "not Trump" or even worse, continue to chastise voters who have already wholly rejected their current-day ideology.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ident-00199564

The piece you linked is valuable in the context of explaining how he changed the debate and can't be legitimately considered a fluke anymore.

I think it's too well accepted, but not yet openly discussed, that chastising voters for even considering voting for him was predictably unsuccessful and futile, wrongheaded, and ignorant.

What people support is making their lives better. not living their lives in shame and seeing a future for themselves and their children.

You are so hyper focused on shit that literally does not matter for the vast majority of Americans, it's kind of hilarious. The majority want to be able to put food on the table, roof over their heads and safe and clean neighborhoods, and they sure as hell don't want to finance illegals, or foreign countries, or fucking smelt fish, when their own neighborhoods look like a dump.

They don't give a fuck about your hyperbole, virtue signaling and windmills fighting. That shit only works online, and even that fad has reached a fatigue moment now given the overwhelming evidence that it is not the actual pressing matter for the living breathing people.

Frankly, that's like shouting into the void. Arguing with that kind of insanity, can make one insane too - you know, if you stare into the abyss, abyss stares at you.

People like that are one of the reasons Trump is in the White House, because their insane takes simply make an average person facepalm and vote the other way, which is precisely what happened. Well, incompetent governance too, but the former certainly does not help either.

P.S. And that's, by the way, why I mostly stopped arguing with people here. Do I really need to oblige unhinged takes disconnected from reality, when I simply can let the reality run its natural course?

This about sums it up. The last four years and the previous election were a gamble that you can simply tell Americans that their legitimate concerns about the economy, immigration, crime, and foreign policy were actually unfounded and everything was being handled just fine by Biden. Then you could tell Americans that what they actually should be concerned about was that Democracy itself was kaput if they didn't vote as their betters voted. Their concerns were also one step behind the real threat: creeping fascism and christofascism and bigotry.

"That shit only works online, and even that fad has reached a fatigue moment now..." "People like that are one of the reasons Trump is in the White House, because their insane takes simply make an average person facepalm and vote the other way" "You are so hyper focused on shit that literally does not matter for the vast majority of Americans."

"Same goes for workforce, it's up to the government to make sure basic necessities are affordable for an average working citizen, before they go ahead and bus in millions of aliens paid for by taxes that should benefit said citizens first and foremost. The priorities are not there, and the taxpayers vote you out."

It's two months after the election, but people are still doing everything but acknowledge why Trump won? Next you'll be saying that the way to oppose an incoming administration you think is fascist is to pardon an entire family, and several scandalized officials, commutations for broad swaths of murderers, and declare a constitutional amendment to be ratified.

[En Sabah Nur]

But a senior DHS official told Fox News
likely fired
the facts

You talk about facts, but you seem to be using an anonymous source from Fox, your own "likely" conclusion, and think everyone else is the issue on this?

God, this is getting worse.

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Is the Constitution being removed from the White House website a normal thing? Can we talk about that yet?

[Edge-]

It's two months after the election, but people are still doing everything but acknowledge why Trump won?

A fairly wild claim to make given the lack of...

Harris claiming victory and suing in every battleground state to overturn election results.
A violent insurrection at the Capitol building leading to the assault and serious injury of multiple law enforcement officers and multiple deaths.
Elected officials writ-large of a political party saying that Donald actually stole the election and Harris is the real winner.

Next you'll be saying that the way to oppose an incoming administration you think is fascist is to pardon an entire family, and several scandalized officials, commutations for broad swaths of murderers, and declare a constitutional amendment to be ratified.

Literally yes, especially when said individually has repeatedly promised to specifically weaponize the government to prosecute those individuals, and is packing his administration with sycophants that will serve him and only him and not the American people and the Constitution.

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You talk about facts, but you seem to be using an anonymous source from Fox, your own "likely" conclusion, and think everyone else is the issue on this?

God, this is getting worse.

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Is the Constitution being removed from the White House website a normal thing? Can we talk about that yet?

https://web.archive.org/web/20210120...-constitution/

It appears that it was first put online on Jan. 20, 2020. So of course it's natural that the reaction is, "remove everything from the last administration because reactionaryism is actually good."

[En Sabah Nur]

https://web.archive.org/web/20210120...-constitution/

It appears that it was first put online on Jan. 20, 2020. So of course it's natural that the reaction is, "remove everything from the last administration because reactionaryism is actually good."

Of all the things to remove lol Rather symbolic, though, one might say.

[Edge-]

Of all the things to remove lol Rather symbolic, though, one might say.

Naturally. It's all about performative symbolism and shit, politics for conservatives is purely a theatrical quest for ultimate power and nothing more. See Dear Leader sign all the EOs in public, what a sight to behold, forget about all those times he literally walked out of the room while forgetting to sign orders that media were specifically gathered to witness, look at him do it now. If you can't see it, it's not happening.

Otherwise yes, sure is an odd page to choose to shut down.

[Poopymonster]

Must keep feeding the masses with stupidity.

Nah, it's the Mushroom Diet.
Keep em in the dark and feed em shit.

[Doomcookie]

Man, this thread really ran through all the predictable posts while I didn't bother to check it, huh?



The super low effort trolls posting once and then leaving, successfully getting people to bite.



These two idiots arguing with each other in their usual annoying style.


This guy finally getting to stop pretending the 88 in his name is meant to represent Chinese luck.


The genocide supporter being all in on Trump support. Can't wait to again hear how he totally supports more left-leaning positions after this. I'll make sure to be shocked.


This idiot constantly posting about what he can guarantee. Stop doing that. Expand your vocabulary. You "guarantee" way too fucking much.


This clown finally just dropping the bullshit and telling everyone outright he's a Trump supporter. Not as if we didn't already know, but at least he's stopped pretending.


The one guy that gets it, but gets completely ignored. And as such...


The bait continues. Successfully.


This whiny bullshit again.


The right wing fool that clearly can't read, but he needs to get the talking points he read elsewhere across exactly as he saw them.

And I didn't even include all the back and forth between people on the left playing the blame game as if it fucking matters.

You have people at the height of power in the US doing Nazi salutes, protections for minorities being erased, millions of people potentially being kicked out of the country, a literal mess of other bullshit, but placing blame is totally more important, right? This might just be a niche gaming forum in its twilight years, but get some perspective.

inb4 someone replies to just comment that all I'm doing is complaining. Bravo to you, sir/madam/person.

You seem upset.

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Are those official statements of the Afd ?

And I guess by your logic, that all Germans were nazis during ww2, same could be said about most population about occupied countries during that time.

Why don't you like when you get handed what you asked for?

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Nazis are extreme right but not all extreme rights are nazis.

Tell them to stop voting for Nazis

[tehdang]

A fairly wild claim to make given the lack of...

Harris claiming victory and suing in every battleground state to overturn election results.
A violent insurrection at the Capitol building leading to the assault and serious injury of multiple law enforcement officers and multiple deaths.
Elected officials writ-large of a political party saying that Donald actually stole the election and Harris is the real winner.

I'll add this post by you to "doing everything but acknowledge why Trump won.

I expect many more months, but hopefully not years, of shifting the "why Trump won" to "let me retell the story of January 6th, 2021 and the surrounding events." It is actually very advantageous to skip through the entirety of the Biden administration.

Literally yes, especially when said individually has repeatedly promised to specifically weaponize the government to prosecute those individuals, and is packing his administration with sycophants that will serve him and only him and not the American people and the Constitution.

You're just signaling and excusing what Trump will do, and quite explicitly. Trump's entire claim is that he's been poorly treated by the federal government and prosecutors. Now Biden's doing him a great service by upholding the claims that the federal government and prosecutors can mistreat individuals out of office. I hope that was in Biden's letter to Trump that he left at the desk.

Nobody is above the law, unless you're worried about the next guy in office, in which case the family of the President are very much above the law, but let me repeat for the record that they're only above the law because of fears of injustice. If that's your line, and you're sticking to it, then I guess I'm glad for you speaking honestly.

[Doomcookie]

Never, stop the fear mongering.

Plus they already control all the major institutions and there is no "resistance" this time.

Time to root for America to succeed.

You literally rooted for it to fail.

Stop lying.

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I already answered your question, and this will be the last time I address this.

You never answered why you lied for a rapist for multiple elections.

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What are you even talking about?

I said we should root for America to succeed. And you're saying we should lose our world standing. Literally rooting against your own country/citizens.

Put aside the tribalism.

You are lying.

I provided the evidence where you were rooting for it to fail.

[Somewhatconcerned]

The US can't succeed if the rest of the world is in chaos. Withdrawing from the Paris Accord was a bad decision. We'll likely be ceding green energy technology sector to China and India. Withdrawing from the WHO, while there is the potential that we may be at the start of a bird flu pandemic, is just nuts.

We withdrew from the Paris Accords last time, and nothing happened.

WHO - did they even help during COVID? All the public health policy/decisions are national/local anyway.

[Doomcookie]

More insane to you should be the fact that he was never tried for treason nor insurrection by an administration that ran around saying it saved democracy from fascists and extreme MAGA. They bungled it so much that some charges hilariously sought to criminalize core presidential executive powers, which got slapped down at the Supreme Court, and delayed certain cases so long that they couldn't be settled prior to an election.

The only booby prize is you get to call him a convicted felon for the duration of a long appeals process.

The piece you linked is valuable in the context of explaining how he changed the debate and can't be legitimately considered a fluke anymore.

I think it's too well accepted, but not yet openly discussed, that chastising voters for even considering voting for him was predictably unsuccessful and futile, wrongheaded, and ignorant.

This about sums it up. The last four years and the previous election were a gamble that you can simply tell Americans that their legitimate concerns about the economy, immigration, crime, and foreign policy were actually unfounded and everything was being handled just fine by Biden. Then you could tell Americans that what they actually should be concerned about was that Democracy itself was kaput if they didn't vote as their betters voted. Their concerns were also one step behind the real threat: creeping fascism and christofascism and bigotry.

"That shit only works online, and even that fad has reached a fatigue moment now..." "People like that are one of the reasons Trump is in the White House, because their insane takes simply make an average person facepalm and vote the other way" "You are so hyper focused on shit that literally does not matter for the vast majority of Americans."

"Same goes for workforce, it's up to the government to make sure basic necessities are affordable for an average working citizen, before they go ahead and bus in millions of aliens paid for by taxes that should benefit said citizens first and foremost. The priorities are not there, and the taxpayers vote you out."

It's two months after the election, but people are still doing everything but acknowledge why Trump won? Next you'll be saying that the way to oppose an incoming administration you think is fascist is to pardon an entire family, and several scandalized officials, commutations for broad swaths of murderers, and declare a constitutional amendment to be ratified.

Why do you think it is okay to be a rapist, and to try and overthrow the government after losing an election?

You said a lot of words to admit that you support the above. Feel free to answer in only one sentence.