Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kaleredar]

He won't since he removed us from the WHO.

With this I do wonder... what's to stop states from creating their own Health Organizations? A state like, say, California or New York could create/spin off their own health organizations to act as advising bodies within the US on diseases Trump wants to ignore.

Trump can forbid federal bodies from acting under the scientific theory of "if we all plug our ears and cover our eyes you can't hear or see how badly I'm screwing this up" principle, but states with enough footing could conduct research and propose policy free of his interference, with enough authority and resources to actually do something with it.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Elections have consequences. You're seeing the direct result of Dem overreach for the last 4 years being manifested by the voters revolting against them.

I fucking WISH Dems had overreached the last 4 years, they were fucking useless, barely got anything useful done beyond Biden's executive orders from being legislation locked by the Republicans. After reading the Jack Smith report, Dems should have absolutely pushed as hard as they could to get that investigation and trial over with before the election took place. Trump's fat ass should be sitting in a jail cell right now if Dems had done the bare minimum, but they didn't even do that. "Dem overreach" my fucking ass LMAO

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Larry Ellison of Oracle AI will say that "citizens will be on their best behavior" with their AI surveillance systems. Reminder that Oracle and Palantir (if you're a Lord of the Rings Fan, you should really understand how ominous an AI software company focusing on surveillance named fucking Palantir is) are two software companies that developed surveillance technology for Israel in order to monitor Gaza and other regions.

So, who's starting to wonder why Trump gave $500B to AI surveillance tech companies while the price of eggs doubles?

[Edge-]

Larry Ellison of Oracle AI will say that "citizens will be on their best behavior" with their AI surveillance systems.

good thing we've got those silly masks we can put on to prevent facial recognition

and then we can all just silly walk around at all times to ensure bs gait recognition don't work.

sounds a lot like the end of freedom and the beginning of the police state.

but at least we'll have cheap eggs...right?


right?

[Corvus]

Well, that didn't take long. Rep Andy Ogles has proposed an amendment to allow Trump to serve a third term.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...erm-amendment/

[Breccia]

Rep Andy Ogles has proposed an amendment to allow Trump to serve a third term.

Virtue signaling. It has a zero percent chance of passing.

Trump’s decisive leadership stands in stark contrast to the chaos, suffering, and economic decline Americans have endured over the past four years

It's been three days. He's done nothing but make Executive Orders, one of which had the shelf-life of a chocolate bar in Alabama in June.

[Edge-]

Well, that didn't take long. Rep Andy Ogles has proposed an amendment to allow Trump to serve a third term.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...erm-amendment/

ok lol, good luck getting a constitutional amendment through. in this economy?

as I said, republicans continue to highlight how fundamentally unserious they are. i mean, as people. they're serious about how they're awful and just want power to hurt others.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

After Talking with my America and friend it seems like trumps reign is off to an entertainingly stupid start like expected.

Whole things got me wondering how long it will take trump to do a black and white impeachable offence and how much of America will let it slide like last time. Hell im surprised trying to override the constitution day one doesn’t count.

[DarkTZeratul]

Okay, feel free to bring the executive order where this has happened?

Here you go:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/23/busin...der/index.html

"President Donald Trump this week rescinded a nearly 60-year-old executive order that prohibited government contractors from discriminating in their hiring, firing, promotion or pay practices.

Replacing it is a new requirement that those employers certify that they do not have what he termed “illegal” diversity, equity, and inclusion programs."

[s_bushido]

Whole things got me wondering how long it will take trump to do a black and white impeachable offence and how much of America will let it slide like last time. Hell im surprised trying to override the constitution day one doesn’t count.

It doesn't matter what America will or will not "let slide." Because to be removed from office through an impeachment would take the support of a significant portion of the GOP. That's literally never going to happen. Short of doing something that would spurn on the civil war that so many freaks have been salivating about for the past ~10 years, the only way he's getting ousted is if the oligarchs who now officially run our country want it done.

[gondrin]

So, Trump is DEMANDING interest rates to drop immediately. DEMANDING.

Yeah, good luck with that. The banks themselves set the interest rates. The fed only sets the baseline.

Oh, and he is going to go DEMAND the Saudis to cut oil prices. I thought that it would be because of "Drill Baby Drill".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...d=BingNewsSerp

Trump Says He’ll Demand Interest Rates Drop, Urges OPEC to Cut Oil Prices in Davos Speech

President Trump told attendees at Davos that he’ll demand interest rates drop “immediately” and that he’ll ask Saudi Arabia and OPEC to cut the price of oil.

“If the price came down, the Russia-Ukraine war would end immediately,” Trump said during a virtual appearance at the World Economic Forum’s annual meeting in Davos-Klosters, Switzerland. “You got to end that war.” Trump spoke with Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman yesterday, according to the White House.

On interest rates, Trump said he’ll demand interest rates drop, and said “likewise they’ll drop all around the world. They should follow us.” The Federal Reserve in 2023 raised rates to their highest level in more than two decades to fight inflation. Despite slashing them by a full percentage point last year, rates remain historically high.

The president also said the U.S. will be the world capital of artificial intelligence and cryptocurrency, promised tariffs on imports made outside of the country, and called on NATO nations to increase military spending.

The president, who took office on Monday, took questions from a panel of business leaders, including Blackstone Group chairman, CEO, and co-founder Stephen Schwarzman; Bank of America chair and CEO Brian Moynihan; Banco Santander executive chair Ana Botín; and TotalEnergies board chairman and CEO Patrick Pouyanné.

The Russia-Ukraine war, which will have lasted two years next month, came up often. Trump said he spoke with Putin about the war. When asked by one of the panelists if the war would be over by the time Trump comes to Davos next year, he said: “You’re going to have to ask Russia.”

In addition to Saudi Arabia, Trump said China could also help stop the war. “I like President Xi [Jinping] very much,” he said. “Hopefully [he and I] can work together and get that stopped.”

Reducing regulations came up often in the Q&A session. Trump sympathized with a question from Blackstone’s Schwarzman about frustrations among European business people with the regulatory requirements in the European Union. Trump said he was frustrated by the time it takes to get approved and comply with environmental impact requirements, for example, as well as the VAT taxes.

There wasn’t much news on the tariff front. Trump said of Canada, which he’s threatening with 25% tariffs, that “it’s not fair that we should have a $200 billion or $250 billion deficit.” He added that the U.S. doesn’t need Canadian cars, lumber, or gas, referring to the largest products imported from the U.S. neighbor.

Trump told BofA’s Moynihan that he would bring the corporate tax rate in the U.S. down from 21% to 15%, “if you make your product in the U.S.A.” Trump also said he would reinstate his 2017 tax cuts.

After answering the question from Moynihan, Trump told him, “I hope that you start opening your bank to conservatives because many conservatives complain that the banks are not allowing them to do business within the banks, and that includes a place called Bank of America.”

It wasn’t immediately clear what Trump was referring to, and Moynihan didn’t address the comment. He laughed and said he was looking forward to sponsoring the World Cup this year and next year when it comes to the U.S.

A Bank of America spokesperson told Barron’s via email that “We serve more than 70 million clients and we welcome conservatives. We are required to follow extensive government rules and regulations that sometimes result in decisions to exit client relationships. We never close accounts for political reasons and don’t have a political litmus test.”

Trump reassured Pouyanné that he would agree to the security of liquid natural gas supplies to Europe. TotalEnergies is the largest importer of LNG from the U.S., which contributes to “the security of supply to Europe,” Pouyanné said.

Even though Trump isn’t at the event, WEF founder and board Chairman Klaus Schwab told him that attendees been discussing the impact of his return to the presidency on global affairs. He said U.S. leadership is “fundamental and paramount” in addressing “monumental” global challenges.

In response to Trump’s remarks during his inaugural address that the U.S. is “taking back” the Panama Canal, Panama’s president José Raúl Mulino said Wednesday that the waterway “belongs to Panama and will continue to belong to Panama.” He said Panama wouldn’t be distracted by such pronouncements, calling them “misinformed” and a legal impossibility.

Trump’s appearance follows several policy moves that have drawn attention around the world. After his Monday swearing-in, Trump signed executive orders withdrawing the U.S. for the second time from the Paris Climate Agreement. This week, he also revoked several of former President Joe Biden’s executive orders to fight climate change, declared a national energy emergency, and canceled Biden’s “unfair” incentives to promote electric-vehicle purchases. The U.S. is one of the world’s largest producers of greenhouse gas emissions, second only to China, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

This week, Trump also pulled the U.S. out of the World Health Organization, the United Nations agency that supports the global health system. In an executive order, Trump accused the WHO of “mishandling” the Covid-19 pandemic. The withdrawal has alarmed public-health officials, who are monitoring the H5N1 bird flu outbreak in the U.S. as a potential future pandemic.

The day after those withdrawals, China expressed its support for both initiatives. “Protectionism leads nowhere. Trade war has no winners,” Chinese Vice Premier Ding Xuexiang said Tuesday at the World Economic Forum, The Wall Street Journal reported. “We should not only make the pie of economic globalization bigger, but also distribute it better.”

Trump is among more than 50 heads of state and governmental leaders who are expected to attend the weeklong event, including President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Prime Minister of Vietnam Pham Minh Chinh, and U.S. Secretary-General António Guterres.

[Edge-]

So, Trump is DEMANDING interest rates to drop immediately. DEMANDING.

Yeah, good luck with that. The banks themselves set the interest rates. The fed only sets the baseline.

Oh, and he is going to go DEMAND the Saudis to cut oil prices. I thought that it would be because of "Drill Baby Drill".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...d=BingNewsSerp

So he's going to give oil companies even less incentive to do expensive exploratory drilling because whatever oil they find will probably not be worth as much?

Truly, the 69 dimensional chess can only be comprehended by him and Republicans, I guess.

Anyways, sounds like a lotta yappin for now.

[tehdang]

Trump has signed an order to declassify JFK, MLK and RFK files.

This going to be some juicy content there.

It's probably just some ancient government incompetence they tried to conceal. Or a few loons.

[Rasulis]

Nope, Trump said groceries, energy, and more would be slashed in half when he got in day 1.

Politicians make promises. It is a given. It is up to the voters to look at those promises with critical eyes. Unfortunately, a lot of voters were wearing their rosy glasses this election.

[Edge-]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/g...rt/ar-AA1xJKcs

The Trump administration apparently wants to end birthright citizenship for Native Americans, too.

Think about that.

Native.

Americans.

This is the dumbest timeline.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Dear America

This whole "President Trump" practical joke thing has pretty much run it's course. We admit it...you got us all good...but it's time to go back to being a semi-serious country.

[Edge-]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/g...rt/ar-AA1xJKcs

The Trump administration apparently wants to end birthright citizenship for Native Americans, too.

Think about that.

Native.

Americans.

This is the dumbest timeline.

To make this dumber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act

The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, (43 Stat. 253, enacted June 2, 1924) was an Act of the United States Congress that declared Indigenous persons born within the United States are US citizens. Although the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that any person born in the United States is a citizen, there is an exception for persons not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the federal government. This language was generally taken to mean members of various tribes that were treated as separate sovereignties: they were citizens of their tribal nations.

The act was proposed by U.S. Representative Homer P. Snyder (R-N.Y.), and signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924. It was enacted partially in recognition of the thousands of Native Americans who served in the U.S. Armed Forces during World War I.[1]

Apparently this has already been addressed via legislation that remains on the books.

As I said, the dumbest timeline.

[Bwgmon]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/g...rt/ar-AA1xJKcs

The Trump administration apparently wants to end birthright citizenship for Native Americans, too.

Think about that.

Native.

Americans.

This is the dumbest timeline.

You know, I've seen enough of his blunders and gaffes that I legitimately believed I'd never think "there's no way he's that fucking stupid" ever again. I thought it couldn't go lower.

And lo, I've had to think "there's no way he's that fucking stupid" twice in one day. I'm... honestly kind of impressed by his ability to keep pushing the bar deeper underground.

[Corvus]

The raids have already started - without warrants naturally. Those rounded up included us citizens, including one military vet who had the authenticity of his military identification questioned.

[PACOX]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/g...rt/ar-AA1xJKcs

The Trump administration apparently wants to end birthright citizenship for Native Americans, too.

Think about that.

Native.

Americans.

This is the dumbest timeline.

Of course if history classes weren't underfunded everyone would know the importance of birthright citizenship.

That's why I stress to support birthright citizenship to anyone who has just a little bit of color in their in family. Because mfers really tried to say people who great great to the whatever lived in America weren't citizens...a rule never applied to European immigrants btw

The icing though is that him, his father, and his youngest son are benefactors of birthright citizenship. Him and Baron would be considered anchor babies in some right-wing circles. Trump's mom has questionable citizenship and basically benefited from being white. Melania was straight up illegal at one point.

[fwc577]

The raids have already started - without warrants naturally. Those rounded up included us citizens, including one military vet who had the authenticity of his military identification questioned.

Question, could someone leave their IDs at home and say they're an illegal from NZ and get a free, and permanent, vacation to NZ? Asking for a friend.