Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Rasulis]

my favorite part

all of a sudden things like "bird flu" are real and are an excuse for donald but nope those never existed and weren't a contributing factor before donald was in office it was all personally joseph robinette bidens fault

US Consumer Sentiment Declines for First Time in Six Months

We'll see if he can turn that around. After all, it has only been 4 days.

I can tell you that the mood in the Bay Area tech community is pretty chipper. Majority of the AI money will likely go to the Bay Area where 90% of the top US and over 50% of the global top AI companies are based. That goes for AI start ups also.

[Edge-]

US Consumer Sentiment Declines for First Time in Six Months

We'll see if he can turn that around. After all, it has only been 4 days.

I can tell you that the mood in the Bay Area tech community is pretty chipper. Majority of the AI money will likely go to the Bay Area where 90% of the top US and over 50% of the global top AI companies are based.

Thanks, I hate it. I hate AI so fucking much and all the money being wasted on it so a bunch of bros can make endless porn or Google can give is awful, consistently wrong "answers" to web searches that just make their search results worse, or all the other nonsense like the GameOn couple that defrauded investors of $60M for their stupid shitty AI chatbot...or hell any of the AI support chatbots that are genuinely somehow worse than the pre-AI "digital support assistants" somehow. All while we cook the oceans to do it.

Personally, even if it hurts the Bay I'm hoping the bottom falls out and we can get back to reasonable spending on practically effective AI, like what Calfire uses it for.

[Gorsameth]

Yes, but he's also literally the head of the party and has been since 2016.

And we've seen Republican lawmakers vote against the interests of their constituents before (quite a few times, actually), so honestly it's not entirely out of the question that enough of them would cave to their orange fuhrer.

They will happily vote against their constituents if they can direct the blame away. "I voted for ending FEMA and now you are all fucked" while they control the entire government is a bit harder to shift away.

[Breccia]

Republicans in Congress can't afford it allow it because they still have re-elections to win. Unlike Trump.

The good news, is I think they'll be able to keep it without directly defying Trump. I'm moderately sure they can just keep sending Trump a FEMA budget with the rest of the budget, and he keeps signing it. They can literally ignore the problem. Or, Trump could refuse to sign a budget because it has FEMA funding, and personally shut down the government, stopping the salaries for ICE workers.

[Somewhatconcerned]

I am curious to see how much more red CA trends if voter ID is instated. Not saying it will flip red....but you never know ..

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-id-water-aid/

[Gabriel]

I thought it was to weaponize government to their gain.

Potato tomato. Destroying the government will lead to the ancap cyberpunk utopia all the billionaires want.

[DarkTZeratul]

Why would he do this? Isn't the majority of the aid from FEMA going to red states?

The biggest benefactors by far are Texas, Louisiana, and Florida.

[Edge-]

I am curious

I don't think you are, actually.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I am curious to see how much more red CA trends if voter ID is instated. Not saying it will flip red....but you never know ..

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-id-water-aid/

Not going far enough, they should obviously make it so only white land owners can vote like the founding fathers intended!

[Milchshake]

Hey brah! Remember when Trump actually turned on the water spigot?!?

When he signed those executive orders allowing Nestlé to take millions of gallons of California water for dirt cheap.

[Rasulis]

I am curious to see how much more red CA trends if voter ID is instated. Not saying it will flip red....but you never know ..

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-id-water-aid/

I will repeat, unless they are under maintenance, repair, or considered seismically unstable, Southern California reservoirs are nearly full and can't take any more water from the north.

Here is Diamond Valley Reservoir. The largest reservoir in Southern California with enough water to supply San Diego County for 5 years without a drop of rain.

Diamond Valley - Storage Conditions, January 23, 2025

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Thanks, I hate it. I hate AI so fucking much and all the money being wasted on it so a bunch of bros can make endless porn or Google can give is awful, consistently wrong "answers" to web searches that just make their search results worse, or all the other nonsense like the GameOn couple that defrauded investors of $60M for their stupid shitty AI chatbot...or hell any of the AI support chatbots that are genuinely somehow worse than the pre-AI "digital support assistants" somehow. All while we cook the oceans to do it.

Personally, even if it hurts the Bay I'm hoping the bottom falls out and we can get back to reasonable spending on practically effective AI, like what Calfire uses it for.

Unfortunately, together with the beneficial applications in medicine, fire fighting, urban planning, etc. we will see a lot of scumminess.

[Somewhatconcerned]

I don't think you are, actually.

I bet CA would become a battleground state overnight.

There's already been a shift. I don't think the people there can take Newsom and co much longer. And if Trump goes with conditional aid and Gavin refuses...the voters will blame him big time.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...city/?tbref=hp

[Edge-]

I bet CA would become a battleground state overnight.

Because of the widespread voter fraud that Republicans have never been able to uncover? I bet it's because of that weird little fantasy. You're weird.

And if Trump goes with conditional aid and Gavin refuses...the voters will blame him big time.

Ah yes, voters will blame...not the person who put conditions on disaster aid, which no Democrat has ever done.

As I've said repeatedly, fundamentally unserious and dishonest.

[Timester]

3 days of administration and we are turboing already into state color?

Because of the widespread voter fraud that Republicans have never been able to uncover? I bet it's because of that weird little fantasy. You're weird.

It's like talking with someone that thinks politics are like countryball games.

[tehdang]

I am curious to see how much more red CA trends if voter ID is instated. Not saying it will flip red....but you never know ..

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-id-water-aid/

CA Dems win on this issue, speaking specifically to the context mentioned in the article. Recall that Biden threw a tantrum over Georgia voting laws, "makes Jim Crow like Jim Eagle," and jack shit happened. Same here. The best he can hope for is some compromise on fire prevention methods with fire aid, and he likely has too narrow of majorities for even that.

[Rasulis]

I bet CA would become a battleground state overnight.

There's already been a shift. I don't think the people there can take Newsom and co much longer. And if Trump goes with conditional aid and Gavin refuses...the voters will blame him big time.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...city/?tbref=hp

CA is a long way from being a battleground state. Democrats have super majorities in both Senate and Assembly. Democrats also flipped 3 house seats. Trump was an anomaly.

[gondrin]

Not going far enough, they should obviously make it so only white land owners can vote like the founding fathers intended!

I love this part of the article:

“Those are the two things. After that, I will be the greatest president that California has ever seen,” he added.

Absolutely disgusting. It isn't about making sure people get money to help rebuild, it isn't about making sure california is helped in any way. It is literally about his ego.

[Rasulis]

CA Dems win on this issue, speaking specifically to the context mentioned in the article. Recall that Biden threw a tantrum over Georgia voting laws, "makes Jim Crow like Jim Eagle," and jack shit happened. Same here. The best he can hope for is some compromise on fire prevention methods with fire aid, and he likely has too narrow of majorities for even that.

Nine GOP reps from CA? Two or three from districts that burned this season. They are not going to vote against sending aid to CA. That would be political suicide.

[gondrin]

So Endus and any other Canadians, according to Trump, you would have better healthcare if Canada were to become a US State. What do you think about that?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...dbf4369c&ei=36

Trump Claims Canadians, Who Have Universal Healthcare, Would Have 'Much Better Health Coverage' As 51st State

President Donald Trump said on Friday that Canadians would have better healthcare if the country was absorbed by the U.S. and became its 51st state.

Talking to media from North Carolina, Trump made the comments while claiming the U.S. is "subsidizing" Canada. "We lose $200 billion a year because we allow them to make cars, to take lumber. We don't need their products, we make the same ones on the other side of the border," said Trump during a passage of his remarks.

He went on to reiterate his desire for Canada to become a part of the U.S., saying that "if that happened," Canadians would have "much better health coverage." The comment stood out because unlike the U.S., Canada has universal healthcare.

However, the issue is somewhat contentious as not all consider the system to be better than the U.S.'s. A 2022 poll by Angus Reid Institute showed that Canadians were less satisfied with their access to healthcare than Americans.

The poll showed that 29% of respondents have experienced "chronic difficulty" in accessing healthcare, while an additional 31% said they experienced some challenges. The same poll showed that only 15% of Canadians were satisfied with their access to healthcare, compared to 29% of Americans. Moreover, 13% of Americans said they have "chronic difficulty" with it.

"Faced with the possibility of needing emergency care, 70 per cent of Americans felt confident they would get it in a timely fashion compared to just 37 per cent of Canadians," the report added.

Canada's CBC said it has "reported extensively across Canada on emergency room closures and service reductions due to staffing shortages, extended surgery wait times, and the need to offload some procedures to other provinces to clear backlogs."

Sally Pipes, president of the Pacific Research Institute, recently wrote in Forbes that the worst about Trump absorbing Canada would be taking its "government-run, single-payer healthcare system."

"Canada promises patients more than it can deliver. It taxes its citizens dearly for the "right" to wait weeks or months for care. And as if long waits and poor outcomes weren't bad enough, the Canadian healthcare system is also draining the country's economy," she said.

Surely, not all opinions are negative. Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party of Canada, taunted Trump with the matter recently: "You think we want to be the 51st state? Nah, but maybe California would like to be the 11th province," May said in early January.

She went on to extend the invitation to Oregon and Washington, highlighting that the states and nation have geography in common before taking a jab at the U.S.' healthcare system.

"This is what we've got for you: Free healthcare, universal, free healthcare. No more 1-year-olds who suddenly fall off the Medicaid list and their parents are on the news because they're trying to do a GoFundMe, because they're trying to get their daughter to a doctor," the veteran Canadian politician added.

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Nine GOP reps from CA? Two or three from districts that burned this season. They are not going to vote against sending aid to CA. That would be political suicide.

And the House and Senate can absolutely force Trump to send aid if he tries to impound it.

[tehdang]

Nine GOP reps from CA? Two or three from districts that burned this season. They are not going to vote against sending aid to CA. That would be political suicide.

What part of "CA Dems win on this issue" do you not understand? What part of "fire prevention methods with fire aid" do you not understand? I've stated the extreme limit to what he can hope for, but I suspect you don't actually have a real disagreement with me.