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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    they aren't conscious and we are so so far away from actual consciousness. Its just pattern repeating and if they 'learn' not to work that branch gets culled and you keep going with another.
    It's not just consciousness that they're missing, it's intelligence and reasoning. LLMs are basically autocomplete plus ELIZA, with an immense amount of computing resources thrown at it, along with a few clever tricks for shaping the resultant output. Everyone trying to spin LLMs as more than that is a huckster and a scam artist. As Linus Torvald's recently pointed out, LLMs are 10% pretty cool advances (mostly via throwing very large amounts of computing power at the issue, which are more expensive than what any end users are willing to pay) and 90% hype and marketing.
    "For the present this country is headed in directions which can only carry ruin to it and will create a situation here dangerous to world peace. With few exceptions, the men who are running this Government are of a mentality that you and I cannot understand. Some of them are psychopathic cases and would ordinarily be receiving treatment somewhere. Others are exalted and in a frame of mind that knows no reason."
    - U.S. Ambassador to Germany, George Messersmith, June 1933

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    He can't. This is illegal. Arguably moreso than anything he did in first term, including the things he was impeached for.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-...-bill/928/text


    If the American Congress had the spine of an osteoarthritic gerbil, the members would be impeaching President Trump tomorrow morning.
    Its genuinely frustrating to see Republicans attack the basic functions of government. Like regardless of your objectives you need inspectors so that it works. Trump and the GOP are dismantling the foundations of that for as of now undefined reasons.

    What policy goal does getting rid of the people in charge of audits do? Well beyond doing things that would get caught by those audits like naked corruption and fraud

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post


    Good publicity photo for Newsom.

    The awkward meeting came after Trump threatened to withhold federal aid if the state doesn't enact a voter ID law.

    But the internet appeared more concerned with their initial meeting — with some dragging Trump for appearing to "cower" to Newsom.

    In a separate post, Madrid wrote: "Trump goes full beta male cowering to Gavin Newsom on the tarmac. Weak."

    "The asymmetry of our politics - Trump can heap vicious personal abuse on Newsom (“Newscum”) but Newsom has to be the bigger person and welcome Trump to his state with grace and civility," remarked former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan.

    In response to Hasan, S.V. Dáte, White House correspondent at HuffPost, wrote: "EVERYBODY treats Trump like a toddler."

    "Ouch. I've always thought Trump is sort of alpha-ish but, no. Look at the way Newsom completely takes over the conversation immediately and Trump is just defensive/reacting/listening, instantly in his place. Wow," chided attorney and former senior advisor to the Trump campaign A.J. Delgado.

    "Donald Trump doing his weird lean with Gavin Newsom. Methinks Donald isn't well," jabbed artist Candee Corliss on Bluesky.
    I am looking forward to the day where Trump does that weird lean of his and then falls over.
    Because that will mean about a hundred thousand youtube shorts where they add all kinds of silly sound effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odinfrost View Post
    I am looking forward to the day where Trump does that weird lean of his and then falls over.
    Because that will mean about a hundred thousand youtube shorts where they add all kinds of silly sound effects
    I can already see the lean start with Smooth Criminal playing...and then a Michael Jackson "OW!" when he falls over.
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    The most insecure man on the planet, ladies and gentlemen.

    Shoelifts, girdle, diaper, stupid lean to hide is enourmous gut, orange clown makeup to hide his pale old man complexion, somekind of birds nest on his head to complete the clown look. And some think he's the most alpha man ever.

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    I love conservatives, government bad unless we personally need it.

    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1882790527785156619

    You can say "it is weird to politicize NC being destroyed by the hurricane" but that is exactly what this dude keeps doing himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moralgy View Post
    I love conservatives, government bad unless we personally need it.

    https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1882790527785156619

    You can say "it is weird to politicize NC being destroyed by the hurricane" but that is exactly what this dude keeps doing himself.
    Well the good news is, tRump will visit, promise to fix things, but then won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Well the good news is, tRump will visit, promise to fix things, but then won't.
    And they will still praise him and lick his boot. Stuff will continue rebuilding at the current rate, possibly slower as volunteers think its going to get better "suddenly" and rest, and in 4 years when all their cities are still awful they will vote republican in joy at how much Trump helped them. xd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Looks like Newsom is pushing the first domino. Why does everyone except Newsom look like there is a really strong headwind?
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    I don't think
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odinfrost View Post
    I am looking forward to the day where Trump does that weird lean of his and then falls over.
    I'm convinced he does that, leaning forward in general, so that his jacket hangs loosely and he doesn't look like a fat obese fat man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I'm convinced he does that, leaning forward in general, so that his jacket hangs loosely and he doesn't look like a fat obese fat man.
    That or a balance thing because he is a very old obese man. But I like your explanation better, its funnier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I'm convinced he does that, leaning forward in general, so that his jacket hangs loosely and he doesn't look like a fat obese fat man.
    IT IS THAT 150%. Everything about him screams insecurity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Looks like Newsom is pushing the first domino. Why does everyone except Newsom look like there is a really strong headwind?
    He's yelling so loudly that everyone else has to lean in not to fly backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI has said that there must be "changes to the social contract" as AI advances

    "The whole structure of society will be up for some degree of debate and reconfiguration."

    https://x.com/TFTC21/status/1882571514891080030

    AI algorithms are programmed and trained by humans, and they can be altered by humans. As more and more tech companies like google and X implement AI technology, it will become more important than ever before for there to be independent sites that report on real events, real history, because there's no doubt that tech billionaires will try to rewrite reality. Humans are terrifyingly susceptible to propaganda, myself included. This is why they're trying to kill wikipedia, because it lets us look up real information with sources required.

    Remember, AI has one goal, it wants to fix one thing: The need to pay human workers, but it can be used for an infinite number of things by those who own it.
    God I hope this bubble bursts so fucking hard. I hate AI so fucking much.

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    The contrarians around AI are really weird and prob dont realize how much of the tasks humans perform is basically pattern recognition and repetition. I am going to assume most people here are software developers or something like that? AI cant replace a senior developer but it prob can replace junior developers and entry level positions. And even if no breakthrough comes, there are still gains to be made in creative fields such as writing and art. Not to mention there is still self driving that we know its possible but a matter of sorting out the kinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The contrarians around AI are really weird
    There's nothing weird to realize it's a perfect tool for rich tech assholes to screw over everyone else. They won't use it to make our lives better, forget that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    I have no idea of the context of the interview, but hot damn, the dude explaining tariffs has the patience of a saint...

    The really sad thing is that you just know that guy has walked away from that discussion without moving a millimeter in his position. He's been educated on the fact that the basis for his beliefs is fundamentally incorrect, he's had it explained clearly and simply why he is wrong. But he'll be saying the same things to his mates in the bar the next day, just as if this discussion never happened.

    It doesn't mean we stop trying, but fuck me it's disheartening.
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    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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    It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The contrarians around AI are really weird and prob dont realize how much of the tasks humans perform is basically pattern recognition and repetition. I am going to assume most people here are software developers or something like that? AI cant replace a senior developer but it prob can replace junior developers and entry level positions. And even if no breakthrough comes, there are still gains to be made in creative fields such as writing and art. Not to mention there is still self driving that we know its possible but a matter of sorting out the kinks.
    You do realize the push with AI is literally the foundation for the dystopian corpo futures in sci-fi and shit right?

    That AI would make something like mass surveillance across all channels fairly trivial if deployed at-scale. And there's enormous money in that for any AI companies getting those kinds of contracts.

    It's pretty straightforward what the risks, especially with the current administration, very much are.

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    It doesn't mean we stop trying, but fuck me it's disheartening.
    US conservatives take immense pride in their voluntary ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The contrarians around AI are really weird and prob dont realize how much of the tasks humans perform is basically pattern recognition and repetition. I am going to assume most people here are software developers or something like that? AI cant replace a senior developer but it prob can replace junior developers and entry level positions. And even if no breakthrough comes, there are still gains to be made in creative fields such as writing and art. Not to mention there is still self driving that we know its possible but a matter of sorting out the kinks.
    1> Nearly all AI models are built from stolen IP used as training data. This means those models should be set on fire and their entire codebase purged, all copies deleted. Go back and start over, this time without doing illegal shit.

    2> AI basically can't replicate junior developers the way you're claiming. AI doesn't have any comprehension. The only way it can do a developer's job properly is by copy-pasting stuff other developers already created. And then you're hoping what it plops in there is actually functional code, and AI doesn't give a shit about that.

    3> Same for art. AI art is terrible because AI is shit at making art, compared to people. Still. That's the problem; it doesn't have a use-case. Anyone who wants "good" art is still gonna pay an artist, because all the AI can produce is recycled garbage. Sure, it's probably fine if you want character images for your personal D&D game and can't afford a $250 commission charge per player from someone on DeviantArt, but for anything actually professional? Nope.

    4> Worse, anything technical AI will be 100% shit at, because it can't comprehend things like professional and ethical standards. This isn't just "the tech's not there yet", it's "using this tech will always be a fireable offense because it evades professional and ethical oversight".

    5> Self-driving is just a perfect example of this. It's always been "just 5 years away" for 15 years now, or more. If you have a perfect and constantly-updated map system that takes into account all construction and blockages in the city, it can function, but that's only barely feasible in the "look at this cool concept" level, it doesn't pad out to general driving or live reaction to in-world conditions that weren't pre-programmed adequately. Whatever use it may have in a big enough city to be worth the mapping is probably already better handled with a decent subway/bus system. There are gaps in the technology that literally do not have even conceived potential solutions, let alone new designs to address those failure points.

    AI has some limited uses, but it's just another techbro scheme at this point, just like blockchain tech; big promises, very little delivery and a product that doesn't really have a functional use-case that's actually remunerative.

    And this is without getting into the whole "if you replace human jobs with AI on a wide scale, you still need those humans to have money to sustain a consumer-based economy for all the stuff that AI is now producing" problem, which techbros are absolutely allergic to talking about.


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    Hey can you Americans tell your cheeto faced dipshit president to keep his nose out of the UK and kindly tell him to go fuck himself please.

    Trump administration wants ‘regime change’ in the UK as Starmer replaces Trudeau as hate figure

    https://www.independent.co.uk/indepe...-b2685927.html

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