Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

Crop fields for the elderly, McDonald's for the young?

the children yearn for the deep fryer

[gondrin]

So, on the subject of tariffs, did you know that Canada does supply a lot of electricity to the US? There are 3 main ones that go between Canada and the US. One is for pretty much 1/3 of the US on the western side of it, one deals with the Northeast and one deals with the upper middle of the US. Canada is flouting around that if Trump enacts heavy tariffs that they might just stop transmitting power outright. This would effect states like New York all the way to Maine, North Dakota and Wisconsin all the way down to Oklahoma and pretty much everything west of that. Mind you this is also something that would go along with cutting off oil and gas that the US does import.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cru...nada-1.7434926

"There are ways, however, in which this could be done," Herman told CBC News, pointing to Ontario Premier Doug Ford's willingness to cut off electricity exports that many northern states heavily depend on.

"Why don't we start there? With regard to Western Canada and oil and gas, I think that is something that we should indicate is on the table."

[PhaelixWW]

also, I'm a fan of renaming the gulf using the letters of the nations that border it - cuba, united states, and mexico

The Gulf of C.U.M.

Don't give Elon ideas, or he may petition for it changed to the Gulf of Mexico, United States, & Cuba. Oh, wait, and he'll rename Cuba to Kuba.

[Edge-]

So, on the subject of tariffs, did you know that Canada does supply a lot of electricity to the US? There are 3 main ones that go between Canada and the US. One is for pretty much 1/3 of the US on the western side of it, one deals with the Northeast and one deals with the upper middle of the US. Canada is flouting around that if Trump enacts heavy tariffs that they might just stop transmitting power outright. This would effect states like New York all the way to Maine, North Dakota and Wisconsin all the way down to Oklahoma and pretty much everything west of that. Mind you this is also something that would go along with cutting off oil and gas that the US does import.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cru...nada-1.7434926

God it would be funny cutting off power to a bunch of Republican controlled states so they cry about it.

[PhaelixWW]

Fucking called it.

I think everyone called it.

Everyone with a functioning brain, that is.

[Elenos]

LOL
LMAO
LMFAO


USA! USA! USA!
weeeeeeeeeeeeee ya'll sure showed them!

Seriously? The way that post is written vs the actual article is night and day. Like yeah Trump's actions could push Latin America closer to China. There's a huge difference between could and will push them.

The opinion of certain foreign policy experts on what could happen is an irrelevancy frankly.

[Jastall]

So, on the subject of tariffs, did you know that Canada does supply a lot of electricity to the US? There are 3 main ones that go between Canada and the US. One is for pretty much 1/3 of the US on the western side of it, one deals with the Northeast and one deals with the upper middle of the US. Canada is flouting around that if Trump enacts heavy tariffs that they might just stop transmitting power outright. This would effect states like New York all the way to Maine, North Dakota and Wisconsin all the way down to Oklahoma and pretty much everything west of that. Mind you this is also something that would go along with cutting off oil and gas that the US does import.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cru...nada-1.7434926

I'm very far from being a Doug Ford fan but at least seeing him try to stand up to Trump was refreshing, meanwhile Legault is in wait-and-see mode and Smith is getting ready to kiss the ring before even being asked to. I really hope Poilievre, if/when he becomes PM, has the ability to follow suit.

[Draco-Onis]

Seriously? The way that post is written vs the actual article is night and day. Like yeah Trump's actions could push Latin America closer to China. There's a huge difference between could and will push them.

The opinion of certain foreign policy experts on what could happen is an irrelevancy frankly.

I don't think you should need a foreign policy expert to figure out that putting tariffs and threatening to steal land from allies pushes them away. It's like needing a therapist to figure out that sleeping with your neighbors wife and trashing his house is going to make him hate you.

[Elenos]

I don't think you should need a foreign policy expert to figure out that putting tariffs and threatening to steal land from allies pushes them away. It's like needing a therapist to figure out that sleeping with your neighbors wife and trashing his house is going to make him hate you.

Anger? Sure

Getting in bed with China is another matter. There's a reason why virtually all of China's neighbors hate their guts.

It's like Jane having an argument with her husband, her husband slapping her a few times and then the wife sleeping with Joe next door who beats his own wife and Jane being surprised when Joe ends up beating her to too.

Bad analogy I'm sure.

South America is not going to like the Trump admin that's for sure, and heck I'd be less worried about Trump and more worried by Marco Rubio: Someone that both Trump and Congress trust on the issue.

[Cthulhu 2020]

We're on the cusp of another pandemic. It's becoming harder to control the strains of bird flu ripping through chickens, and its a mutation away from human-to-human spread. It will be likely worse between how gutted health is, who is in charge, and the virus itself. That or an economic meltdown, pick your poison. We won't have to worry surviving for more years.

That's pretty much my only hope for normalcy is that the new plague destroying our poultry and no crops being picked skyrockets groceries to the point that people can't deny that nothing is being done about it and Trump is forced to pay attention or be removed - because we know that when it comes to actual emergency response, actual disasters, actually handling domestic affairs, Trump is a non-starter, he doesn't get things done. It's why he got us out of WHO and shut down NIH and is trying to halt CDC reporting, they all talked about what an awful job he did in regards to COVID. Also why he wants to kick FEMA back to the states, his disaster response was abysmal so he wants to blame the state when that disaster response likewise goes as terribly.

Guy just wants to play golf, stay out of jail and collect money at the taxpayer expense.

[Kaleredar]

That's pretty much my only hope for normalcy is that the new plague destroying our poultry and no crops being picked skyrockets groceries to the point that people can't deny that nothing is being done about it and Trump is forced to pay attention or be removed - because we know that when it comes to actual emergency response, actual disasters, actually handling domestic affairs, Trump is a non-starter, he doesn't get things done. It's why he got us out of WHO and shut down NIH and is trying to halt CDC reporting, they all talked about what an awful job he did in regards to COVID. Also why he wants to kick FEMA back to the states, his disaster response was abysmal so he wants to blame the state when that disaster response likewise goes as terribly.

Guy just wants to play golf, stay out of jail and collect money at the taxpayer expense.

Be removed? I doubt it.

Best we can hope for is fire incompetence prevents Trump from doing anything truly harmful in the long run, the obviousness of his sheer ineptitude propelling dems back into power in 2026, and then a dem president coming in in 2028 to fix Trump’s bullshit.

Again.

[Zaydin]

I think everyone called it.

Everyone with a functioning brain, that is.

MAGAts always freak out when I tell them DonOld is the most pro-China president we have ever had due to all hr has done to strengthen it.

Their responses are always "No u" when I explain it to them.

[s_bushido]

Be removed? I doubt it.

Best we can hope for is fire incompetence prevents Trump from doing anything truly harmful in the long run, the obviousness of his sheer ineptitude propelling dems back into power in 2026, and then a dem president coming in in 2028 to fix Trump’s bullshit.

Again.

Best we can hope for is that elections are actually held in '26 and '28... I would not put it past them to declare an emergency (or fabricate an actual one) and suspend elections Because Reasons™.

[Corvus]

Trump's pettiness is on full display after Mark Milley labelled him a fascist - they are planning on stripping his security clearance, security detail and demote him in retirement. And taking down his photo in the Pentagon..

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pen...ts-2025-01-28/

[Edge-]

Trump's pettiness is on full display after Mark Milley labelled him a fascist - they are planning on stripping his security clearance, security detail and demote him in retirement. And taking down his photo in the Pentagon..

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pen...ts-2025-01-28/

I distinctly remember Gaidax scolding me for pointing out that his hopes that Donald would "move forward" were fairly silly given Donald's extremely long and well documented history of holding grudges.

Oh look, he's still a petty little bitch that holds a grudge and can't take any criticism like a little bitch boy.

big strong alpha daddy rofl "pwease pentagon punish da mean genawuw for saying da mean wouds about meeeeeee" rofl

[Malkiah]

"project 2025"

Your thoughts?

sorry, on what specifically? it's been a while since i posted on this topic, and i'm not sure exactly what aspect of what i had said you're looking for followup on.

[Breccia]

sorry, on what specifically?

You sure seemed interested in calling Project 2025 "crying wolf" during the election. Based on recent events in this fast-moving thread, I think your opinion is called for. Oh, and bear in mind, we have your post history.

[Kaleredar]

Best we can hope for is that elections are actually held in '26 and '28... I would not put it past them to declare an emergency (or fabricate an actual one) and suspend elections Because Reasons™.

The thing that "reassures" me against that notion?

The utter, blinding, blundering incompetence of the Trump administration.

Hitler and Trump differ in their grab for power in two very distinct ways: Hitler was an actual ideologue. His horrid ideology is what propelled him, so he had a vested interest in ensuring the most cunning, ruthless people who shared his ideology surrounded him on his way to the top to bring about his malicious plans.

Trump is not an ideologue. Even if you say he wants fascism, that's not because he thinks that's best for some stinted vision for America like Hitler's delusions about a master race, it's because Trump, alone, wants to be tyrant. Trump doesn't care about a master race. Trump doesn't care about some expansionist America gobbling up the globe. Trump cares about lining his pockets, plain and simple. He has no incentive to surround himself with competent people because profiting off the presidency doesn't require that. He tosses out batshit insane ideas because it feeds red meat to his base, keeps the conversation stymied in bickering about his half-impossible ravings, and the media eats it up because it gives them spicy headlines to drive clicks... all while he works to funnel money into his pockets.

And the people that surround Trump? Just look at them. Drunkards, molesters and conspiracy nuts just barely ducking jail. They don't support Trump or Trump's ideology, they too just want to line their pockets. They're the bare minimum-style fascists.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Best we can hope for is that elections are actually held in '26 and '28... I would not put it past them to declare an emergency (or fabricate an actual one) and suspend elections Because Reasons™.

My theory is that Trump is deliberately trying to incite riots to try and declare Martial Law. If anyone ever manages to Luigi Trump, they'll be making statues of that person for a century. I'd say the reason the inauguration got moved inside is because it's hard to cover every single sight line and catch people with a gun in big crowds like that, but I think the more likely reason is that he didn't want another case of having a smaller crowd size than Obama/Biden.

[Tech614]

Getting in bed with China is another matter. There's a reason why virtually all of China's neighbors hate their guts.

Because 1) most of them have a good relationship with the US and 2) China has land and sea border disputes with a lot of them.

Neither of these apply to Latin America, if the US fucks up their relationship. Like you do realize when Trump is threatening to annex land in the americas he is doing the exact same thing China is hated for in asia right?