Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[DarkTZeratul]

I'm not really finding any broadly supported studies to back up your claim of dismal Democratic support outside of NYT opinion pieces and paywalled articles about how Dems need to shape up. So I'm gonna do my best impression of an obnoxious sea-lion and ask: Source?

His source is the cavernous depths of his ass, and the fervent belief that if he repeats it enough times it will become true.

[Bwgmon]

His source is the cavernous depths of his ass, and the fervent belief that if he repeats it enough times it will become true.

Remember, the Republicans winning by like, 0.5% means the Democrats are finished for an entire generation. /s

[Wyrt]

Remember, the Republicans winning by like, 0.5% means the Democrats are finished for an entire generation. /s

Trump couldn't even pull a majority of the votes and Republicans are acting like they have a massive mandate to do whatever the fuck they want and Democrats are defeated forever.

[Rasulis]

good thing i'm already planning on no medicare or social security, rofl

it's gonna be funny if things start breaking and all of a sudden boomer trump voters start dropping like flies because they can't pay for their medication or hospital stays or recovery facility stay etc.

SS maybe. Medicare will be challenging. Private insurance after 65 is very expensive and the coverage is pretty bad.

Also, SS does contribute quite a bit. My wife's SS payments are just shy of $4k per month. Not taxable either.

[Draco-Onis]

Dems have very little support around the country right now.

This has real "there are DOZENS of us!" vibes.

When did Trump win 99% of the votes? is his approval rating 100% in your reality.

[Poopymonster]

good thing i'm already planning on no medicare or social security, rofl

it's gonna be funny if things start breaking and all of a sudden boomer trump voters start dropping like flies because they can't pay for their medication or hospital stays or recovery facility stay etc.

I'm eagerly awaiting this on the news.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNLEYBmO...gB2KmFctc3sdNN

[Xyonai]

Remember, the Republicans winning by like, 0.5% means the Democrats are finished for an entire generation. /s

Only really true if Republicans dismantle enough shit to keep themselves in perpetual power. Can already predict that they're going to try a lot of fucky shit during the midterms to maintain their majority.

Not to say it's hopeless or anything, but they're acting like they're never going to be voted out of power again for a reason.

[Draco-Onis]

Only really true if Republicans dismantle enough shit to keep themselves in perpetual power. Can already predict that they're going to try a lot of fucky shit during the midterms to maintain their majority.

Not to say it's hopeless or anything, but they're acting like they're never going to be voted out of power again for a reason.

I don't think it's that simple President Musk and his VP Trump are acting that way, congressional republicans are scared and fall in line. There's one thing about the republican party is that they are good Nazi soldiers, I am sure we will continue to get leaks from "behind the scenes".

[Xyonai]

I don't think it's that simple President Musk and his VP Trump are acting that way, congressional republicans are scared and fall in line. There's one thing about the republican party is that they are good Nazi soldiers, I am sure we will continue to get leaks from "behind the scenes".

I mean one thing doesn't preclude the other. They're being good little goons because any attempt at defiance risks the crumbs of power they've acquired, but have also shown they're absolute sluts for control and many of them are probably giddy to usher in their new christofacist or technofacists rulers. Because it's an ideology of goblins who just want total control and power as a security blanket against people who are mean to them.

[Belize]

SMedicare will be challenging. Private insurance after 65 is very expensive and the coverage is pretty bad.

Sounds like a great private market that can squeeze seniors for every penny they have then leave them dead! Peak capitalism

[Rustedsaint]

Any bets on which country trump tries to annex next I’m thinking those aussies wil be asked to forfeit a piece

[Somewhatconcerned]

When did Trump win 99% of the votes? is his approval rating 100% in your reality.

Have you seen Dems popularity ratings?

And who they hired to run the DNC? That should help things, LOL

There are DOZENS of you....DOZENS!!


Infracted.

[Polgara]

Have you seen Dems popularity ratings?

And who they hired to run the DNC? That should help things, LOL

There are DOZENS of you....DOZENS!!

Just like egg- oh

Well just like the increase in the price of eggs. Wonder when the not even majority of people's president will fix that problem he promised to fix on day one? Most beige of outcomes this one is.

[gondrin]

Well, lets see if these people are lying in front of a judge that can land them actual jail time as that, along with a lot of other shit that is going on, are legit crimes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...dc7b8bb3&ei=14

Judge weighs interim ban on Elon Musk's DOGE accessing the financial data of millions of Americans

A federal judge said Wednesday that she may immediately block the Treasury Department from directly sharing the personal financial data of millions of Americans with Elon Musk's DOGE.

US District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, who sits in Washington, DC., made the announcement after an hourlong court hearing, during which a government lawyer said only two Musk allies — both of them now Treasury employees — have any access to the data.

That contention was met with skepticism from one of the lawyers seeking to ensure the data's privacy.

"We remain concerned that the records — the personal information of our association's members — are still compromised," said the lawyer, Nandan Joshi, who represents three unions in a lawsuit against Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent filed on Monday.

"If there's a compromise, it's impossible to unbreak the egg," Joshi said.

Treasury officials have so far not been forthcoming on what access the two Musk allies have to the data, Joshi told the judge. The two were identified in court as Cloud Software Group CEO Tom Krause and Marko Elez, who has worked at SpaceX and X, formerly Twitter.

"We don't take it as a given that two individuals by themselves, without outside assistance, will manage the supposed task of rooting out fraud, waste, and abuse in a system that handles over a billion payments a year, and trillions and trillions of dollars of payments," he said.

The lawyer representing Bessent and the Treasury Department, Bradley P. Humphreys, countered during the hearing that only Elez has direct access to the data, and that "he briefs and reports to Mr. Krause, who does not have direct access."

"Only those two individuals have been given any access," Humphreys said, adding that as special government employees of the Treasury Department, both are subject to federal ethics and confidentiality requirements.

"Have they disseminated any of that information to anybody else?" the judge asked Humphreys.

"As far as we are aware, no they have not, outside of the Treasury Department," including to Musk, Humphreys said.

"So he has nothing to do with the records, if he's not at Treasury?" the judge asked of Musk.

"He is associated with the United States DOGE Service, and with the executive office of the president, as a special government employee" Humphreys answered.

"However, our understanding is that the information derived from the systems at issue in this case is not being transmitted to him outside of the Treasury Department," Humphreys added of Musk. "He is not in the Treasury Department."

"Does he have access to it? Can he go look at it? Has he gone and looked at it?" the judge asked.

"No, your honor. To our knowledge he has not," Humphreys answered.

The judge had told the lawyers for both sides that she was ready to put a potential order in place that would keep it that way, with no one beyond Krause and Elez having access to the data, at least for now.

The sides were given until 6 p.m. to reach an agreement on the language for the order. When they failed to reach that agreement, she told them to try again overnight.

"It sounds like you're very close" on the wording, she told them when the parties reconvened at 6 p.m.

The Bessent lawsuit challenges what it calls the Treasury's ongoing release to DOGE of sensitive data from anyone who pays federal taxes, collects Social Security, or otherwise engages financially with the government.

Lawyers for the unions asked to block the sharing of this Treasury data with DOGE while the lawsuit proceeds.

The Treasury and Bessent "have unlawfully implemented and are unlawfully maintaining a system that enables records and information about individuals to be accessed and disclosed to unauthorized parties," the unions have argued in court documents.

"The scale of the intrusion into individuals' privacy is massive and unprecedented," the unions argued.

The lawsuit was filed by the Plaintiffs Alliance for Retired Americans, American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO, and Service Employees International Union, AFL-CIO. It alleges that releasing the names and financial details of people in the Treasury's database would violate federal data-privacy law and Internal Revenue Service regulations.

Lets see if what DOGE is saying that is true. Since this is now in front of a judge, if they are lying to him right now, they can now be dragged in by any law enforcement into the court under threat of imprisonment after the verdict is decided and they are found out to be lying to get a positive verdict in their favor. If the judge sides with the plaintiffs, if DOGE continues on doing what they are doing, they can, once again, be dragged in front of a judge by force from law enforcement to explain why. Maybe not Musk himself but the actual people doing the work.

Remember, they are saying that Musk has not been told about any of the data and yet, somehow he actually knows about it. Which would make what I highlighted a direct lie.

Remember, there is leaked audio that basically tells people to break the law and they will deal with any "roadblocks" when they get to them.

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Any bets on which country trump tries to annex next I’m thinking those aussies wil be asked to forfeit a piece

Scotland. For building windmills outside of his golf course and ruining his view as he complains about.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Just like egg- oh

Well just like the increase in the price of eggs. Wonder when the not even majority of people's president will fix that problem he promised to fix on day one? Most beige of outcomes this one is.

Well when bird flu goes away and egg prices stabilize, you won't even have this one talking point...

[gondrin]

You mean democrats are pissed off and are losing their minds. Let me frank: That doesn't matter since Trump is Hitler 2.0, the bringer of the apocalypse in their eyes.

It will matter if or when non-democrats turn against him. They did in 2020. Trump's current approval is a net positive.

It is starting to hit Republican elected officials too as they do actively listen to their constituents. And right now, even with the special elections, they have an extremely small margin.

[Edge-]

Well when bird flu goes away and egg prices stabilize, you won't even have this one talking point...

lmao

roflmao even

what's donald doing to combat bird flu, broskito?

[gondrin]

Well when bird flu goes away and egg prices stabilize, you won't even have this one talking point...

It will be at least one year or more before egg prices start to go down in any way. It takes a LONG time to actually get enough hens to replace the ones they had to kill. And this is if it actually taken care of.

All it takes is for one bird to get it and that is it. They will cull the whole flock or as many as possible as there is no way to tell if any other has it quickly.

[Breccia]

Trump racks up yet another failure.

FOX News reports *ding* that multiple judges have taken a cursory glance at Trump's attempt to repeal a Constitutional Amendment with a Sharpee and said "No, you can't do that."

U.S. District Judge Deborah Boardman, an appointee of President Joe Biden, noted a prior ruling that had paused the implementation of Trump's order. Boardman argued that citizenship is a "national concern that demands a uniform policy." The prior ruling only paused implementation of Trump's order for 14 days, however, while Boardman's ruling will last through appeal.

"Citizenship is a most precious right, expressly granted by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution," she wrote in her ruling.

"Well she's clearly a DEI hire and a commie librul traitor!"

The decision comes more than a week after U.S. District Judge John Coughenour, a Ronald Reagan appointee, also blocked the executive order following a lawsuit by four U.S. states — Arizona, Illinois, Oregon and Washington. Coughenour called Trump's order "blatantly unconstitutional."

Coughenour said during his Jan. 23 ruling that the executive order banning birthright citizenship "boggles the mind," and told the court he could not remember in his more than 40 years on the bench seeing a case so "blatantly unconstitutional."

Of course, some GOP members are pushing to blatantly violate the Constitution like I violate Graham's wife.

Oftentimes, when this has happened, it's the taxpayers that are paying for the healthcare through Medicaid or through hospitals, paying for care for someone to have a child, or the state child health insurance system as well

-- Iowa AG

The Iowa AG then demanded that Medicaid be shut down so it wouldn't pay for any other Americans either, then the saved money be given to Elon Musk, an immigrant.

[Polgara]

Well when bird flu goes away and egg prices stabilize, you won't even have this one talking point...

So donald promised something he couldn't fix through the office of president, and that is a call for you to deflect it as some other's problem instead of a moment of reflection of a poor choice, you act in genuflection towards Cuck à l'orange

Unserious and weird, like this was something you yourself proclaimed a reason for him winning; which only means you were so easily duped.

MLM creeps would make a killing off of Trumpsters, which I mean cryptoscammers already do so...