Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[gondrin]

So, you know that massive criminal organization, USAID, that Musk said was that. You know how Trump says that “I stand for everything that you stand for and that the church stands for.” on the campaign trail.

Well, I bet you cannot guess what is about to come next.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...b2336aef&ei=55

Trump campaigned that Democrats 'abandoned' Catholics. His USAID crusade will decimate the Catholic relief agency

The Trump administration’s ongoing effort to shut down or massively cut the U.S. Agency for International Development is putting the future of a major Catholic relief agency at risk, despite the Republican portraying himself as an ally to Catholics on the campaign trail.

Catholic Relief Services, founded in 1943 by U.S. Catholic bishops, is the single largest recipient of funds from the development agency, which funds around half of the religious aid group’s $1.5 billion budget.

Leaders of the group, where layoffs have already begun, warned staff of major changes because of the political climate, according to an email obtained by the National Catholic Reporter.

"We anticipate that we will be a much smaller overall organization by the end of this fiscal year," the relief agency’s president and CEO Sean Callahan told staff on Monday.

Observers of the Catholic group argued that the White House’s attacks on the U.S. aid agency, which have included Trump adviser Elon Musk claiming without evidence the administration is a “criminal organization,” go against bedrock Christian and American principles of supporting the less fortunate.

"CRS is the Gospel at work and reflects the best of American values," John Carr, former executive director of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' Department of Justice, Peace and Human Development, told the National Catholic Reporter.

Catholic Relief Services provides emergency and disaster assistance, as well as funding programs related to water, sanitation, agriculture, health and other areas serving an estimated 200 million people across over 100 countries.

On the campaign trail Trump, as well as Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, sought to portray themselves as allies to U.S. Catholics.

During an October rally, Trump claimed Kamala Harris was “very destructive to Christianity and very destructive to evangelicals and to the Catholic Church,” while Vance told supporters that Harris was the candidate “of anti-Christian and anti-Catholic bigotry,” and would further U.S. Catholics’ feeling of being “abandoned.”

As evidence, they pointed to the Democrat’s pro-abortion stances, as well as her questioning of judicial nominees about their membership in a Christian fraternal organization, and a leaked FBI memo the agency later disavowed describing efforts to probe links between radical Catholic groups and the far-right.

During the campaign, Trump told an interviewer, “I stand for everything that you stand for and that the church stands for.”

The pitch paid off. The Trump campaign won the group handily, carrying Catholics by an estimated 20-point margin, according to exit polls, flipping the group from their 2020 support of Joe Biden.

Nonetheless, the alliance with Catholics does not seem to extend to their U.S.-funded relief work, with Musk claiming the U.S. development agency and its partners are part of a “radical-left political psy op.”

“[Trump] agreed we should shut it down,” Musk said during a live discussion on X Spaces. “It became apparent that it’s not an apple with a worm in it. What we have is just a ball of worms. You’ve got to basically get rid of the whole thing. It’s beyond repair. We’re shutting it down.”

In recent days, senior staff at the administration have been placed on leave, contractors have been fired, staff have been barred from agency headquarters, and the Trump White House has instituted a 90-day pause on foreign aid.

“We were inundated with a barrage of hostile, threatening messages,” one staffer told The Independent. “I think they were designed to instill fear.”

The campaign to slash the U.S. aid agency has prompted protests from Democrats, who rallied outside agency headquarters and have threatened to withhold future State Department confirmations until the group’s funding is restored.

I mean, get religion out of government and politics is a good thing. However, this is a literal group that helped people.

[Doomcookie]

Dems have very little support around the country right now.

This has real "there are DOZENS of us!" vibes.

You lied, again. Lying for rapists is a common occurrence for you.

[Draco-Onis]

I want him to remove the data they have access to and transmitted. And remove their ability to see said information in the first place. I also want them to force them to not use any computer that is not already part of the system in the first place. That means no outside hardware that could easily be compromised.

I figure we will see more and more of this.

I think that ship has sailed they have been in the system for days with admin rights downloading the data and who knows how many copies he has made of it. He will leak, monetize and abuse tax payer information for profit.

[Surfd]

Observers of the Catholic group argued that the White House’s attacks on the U.S. aid agency ...... go against bedrock Christian and American principles of supporting the less fortunate.

Supporting the less fortunate eh? Better be careful what circles you say that in. Sounds like it could be Woke. Sort of stinks of DEI. Wouldn't want the Baleful Orange Eye to start squinting in your direction.

[Timester]

You went from pretend Democrat, to "if you can beat them, join them," to this...

... in pretty record time lol I've never seen anyone so disingenuous. Except maybe that dude in the Brexit thread. Maybe you're related?

Also, saying "if you can't beat them, join them" and simply switching sides when the differences are so evident between them shows you to be an unserious person who holds no real positions on anything beyond "I support whoever is winning." And you seemed weirdly proud when saying that.

Now you're trying to tell people that the Democratic party might not even exist...

No credibility. No real conviction. No reason to actually engage with you in the future.

He keeps doing it every single time, as if talking about the Democrats would change the topic being talked.

[En Sabah Nur]

He keeps doing it every single time, as if talking about the Democrats would change the topic being talked.

All it ever seems to get him is a short diversion from the discussion in which he simply gets mocked, and then things go back to normal.

I really don't get it. Though I believe there is a poster with a theory that people like this just have a humiliation kink. I might be starting to believe that theory.

[Elenos]

Supporting the less fortunate eh? Better be careful what circles you say that in. Sounds like it could be Woke. Sort of stinks of DEI. Wouldn't want the Baleful Orange Eye to start squinting in your direction.

Comparing Trump to Sauron? Now isn't that a huge ass insult.

For Sauron.

[Somewhatconcerned]

You went from pretend Democrat, to "if you can't beat them, join them," to this...

... in pretty record time lol I've never seen anyone so disingenuous. Except maybe that dude in the Brexit thread. Maybe you're related?

Also, saying "if you can't beat them, join them" and simply switching sides when the differences are so evident between them shows you to be an unserious person who holds no real positions on anything beyond "I support whoever is winning." And you seemed weirdly proud when saying that.

Now you're trying to tell people that the Democratic party might not even exist...

No credibility. No real conviction. No reason to actually engage with you in the future.

TBH, I wasn't expecting the speed at which DOGE would reveal Dem corruption, overreach and the literal house of cards that they built.

The dam is breaking. Expect more Dem voters to walk away. This may end up being a GOOD thing as a new party will need to emerge to take its place. But it will take time.

[Endus]

TBH, I wasn't expecting the speed at which DOGE would reveal Dem corruption, overreach and the literal house of cards that they built.

The dam is breaking. Expect more Dem voters to walk away. This may end up being a GOOD thing as a new party will need to emerge to take its place. But it will take time.

Nobody believes this. I don't know why you're even bothering at this point.

[Timester]

TBH, I wasn't expecting the speed at which DOGE would reveal Republican corruption, overreach and the literal house of cards that they built.

The dam is breaking. Expect more Republican voters to walk away. This may end up being a GOOD thing as a new party will need to emerge to take its place. But it will take time.

Fix because honestly, that's the party that doesn't exist right now. It's all Trump and Musk.

And we can have a good laugh with your bad acting.

[Breccia]

Nobody believes this. I don't know why you're even bothering at this point.

He's desperate to convince himself he didn't vote for a lying loser fraud felon rapist terrorist. Remember, Trump supporters hate to admit they're wrong. And as we've seen, some of them literally think Trump is God, and we know how faith works.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Nobody believes this. I don't know why you're even bothering at this point.

You mean, nobody *here* believes this, which is absolutely understandable. Still doesn't make it less true, however.

[Shadowferal]

Trump’s Tariff Scam Accidentally Wrecked by Stephen Miller

Miller is a slimy monster that probably deserves to die in a fire. He knows the long game better than Trump. And that's as far as I can go with anything resembling a compliment.

[Timester]

You mean, nobody *here* believes this, which is absolutely understandable. Still doesn't make it less true, however.

We aren't laughing with you, we are laughing AT you.

[Endus]

You mean, nobody *here* believes this, which is absolutely understandable. Still doesn't make it less true, however.

Nobody anywhere believes it. You don't have any basis for it. You're just making up stuff as you go.

Your schtick used to be more subtle than this. Now it's just sad.

[Breccia]

In the ongoing effort to prove how much he hates the Constitution, Trump demands 60 Minutes be shut down.

"For what?"

For lying to the public.

"What did they lie about?"

Nothing, actually. They released the Harris transcript to prove it.

"Doesn't Trump lie all the time about everything?"

Yes.

"Isn't he suing them for $10 billion for damages, from the White House?"

Yes.

[Kathandira]

TBH, I wasn't expecting the speed at which DOGE would reveal Dem corruption, overreach and the literal house of cards that they built.

The dam is breaking. Expect more Dem voters to walk away. This may end up being a GOOD thing as a new party will need to emerge to take its place. But it will take time.

Wait....are you suggesting that the only things being looked at by DOGE is programs which were put in place by Democrats?!

[Kaleredar]

You mean, nobody *here* believes this, which is absolutely understandable. Still doesn't make it less true, however.

Buddy, you still haven’t given me a timeline on the price of eggs going back to pre-Biden levels.

Has DOGE revealed why eggs are so expensive? You’re making up about it revealing dem corruption, so might as well spin a yarn about things actually care about, right?


Certainly musk, a unelected private citizen with no security clearances or oversights, is using that power to bring down prices for Americans, right? And not to personally enrich himself with no paper trail or oversight?


So I’ll ask you again:

When. Are the prices of eggs. Going to go down?

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Wait....are you suggesting that the only things being looked at by DOGE is programs which were put in place by Democrats?!

He’s taking after his main boy Trump: repeat a lie as many times as possible and hope eventually people think you’re telling the truth.

Just ask him about the price of eggs and why they haven’t gone down yet. It’s the only acknowledgement he deserves.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Wait....are you suggesting that the only things being looked at by DOGE is programs which were put in place by Democrats?!

Ideally it should be everything, but makes sense to start there.

[Calfredd]

Ideally it should be everything, but makes sense to start there.

For Republicans looking into Democrat programs it is because the Democrats are the enemy, For Democrats looking into Republican programs it is because they need to see how much of a mess did the bratty child make that needs to be cleaned up.