Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kathandira]

So you can argue whether it was 100 gang members or "only 30," but it falls flat just like arguing that it was "only 1 apartment complex taken over by gangs" and not "several."

It's becoming very clear these last two weeks that our agencies under Biden obviously knew where all these bad guys were, yet didn't lift a finger to apprehend them. Unconscionable, unforgivable. Voters will not forget this.

https://x.com/chrisvanderveen/status...12506348769727

You have been given more than enough chances at a mature, and educated conversation. You have proven over and over to just spew rhetoric and mindless talking points.

Thanks, but no thanks to your opinions.

[Malkiah]

I'm saying that when Trump and Musk's total lack of expertise and knowledge results in the next Great Depression, the Republicans are going to be faced with a choice; share that blame with Trump and let him carry on, or turn on him and kick him out.

right but there's a third option that i think is more likely: they blame the democrats, half the voters believe them, and keep voting for them.
historically, this is what happens and it happened just 40 years ago with reagan, it happened just 20 years ago with bush jr.
i'm not following what causes you to think that this choice you presented will be the one that actually happens in real life.

That way they get what they want, they can blame Trump for everything to avoid political wipeout (assuming they don't just rig or get rid of elections entirely). Just seems like an obvious tactical approach, once Trump's support evaporates in the light in economic calamity.

maybe this is cultural thing then and you're just operating on an assumption of rationality that simply isn't present in the US, because this doesn't seem obvious to me at all either in your central premise or in the after-effects.
i don't see how there would be any political wipeout in the first place because republican voters want human civilization dismantled, and they voted for republicans who swore to dismantle civilization, and now they're trying to dismantle civilization and i can't see anyone involved in that desire having any issue with their goals coming to fruition.
sure, not-end-of-human-civilization people won't be happy about it, but about 50% of the voting populace in the US is explicitly pro-apocalypse.
i get the part you're saying in the context of there being resistance to this, i'm just not sure why you think there's resistance to this in the first place.

[Somewhatconcerned]

You have been given more than enough chances at a mature, and educated conversation. You have proven over and over to just spew rhetoric and mindless talking points.

Thanks, but no thanks to your opinions.

The irony of this type of non-response.

[Fugus]

@Malkiah

I know plenty of them, you are half right. They want society to break down for those they don’t like, they think they will be safe from the consequences and blame the others for the situation while they feel superior to them.

When it’s them who lose their job and suffer and realize that they were the ones being called a moocher THEN they will have issues. How they react to that as a voter is up for debate, but they are firmly in the “it won’t hurt me enough to matter, only those others” mindset.

[Edge-]

I take back everything I said about FED's J Powell. He is doing a phenomenal job carrying the US economy right now, despite the shitshow he has to endure from Trump.

For those who don't know, he has had to juggle 15 chainsaws at the same time to ensure a soft landing, but so far he is doing extremely well. He made all the right calls so far to ensure the global economy doesn't take a shit.

New jobs data is looking decent.

Funny how your moods swing so wildly, lol.

J. Powell has always been a real G., glad you're finally just coming around to seeing it.

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It's becoming very clear these last two weeks that our agencies under Biden obviously knew where all these bad guys were, yet didn't lift a finger to apprehend them. Unconscionable, unforgivable. Voters will not forget this.

why have the number of criminal deportations gone down under donald?

[Malkiah]

@Malkiah

I know plenty of them, you are half right. They want society to break down for those they don’t like, they think they will be safe from the consequences and blame the others for the situation while they feel superior to them.

When it’s them who lose their job and suffer and realize that they were the ones being called a moocher THEN they will have issues. How they react to that as a voter is up for debate, but they are firmly in the “it won’t hurt me enough to matter, only those others” mindset.

i think i'd have more hope in the abstract if i hadn't seen this exact scenario play out twice before already in my lifetime, and in more or less the exact same way that it's playing out now (excepting bombasity which as far as i'm concerned is the only difference between trump, bush, and reagan).

when reagan destroyed the economy and oppressed minorities and ravaged international relations and was a global embarrassment nobody cared and the people kept voting for republicans.
when bush 2 did the same thing, same outcome.
here we are again, and it's just... the exact same policies, there's just no difference. trump isn't doing anything different from what bush or reagan did, it's all going to have the same outcome, and i have no historical precedent from which to draw any feeling that people will react any differently this time.

[Fugus]

Can agree with that. These people like to pretend Bush Jr didn’t exist so they can blame Obama for his failures and then give Trump credit for Obama’s successes and then turn around and give Biden credit for Trumps failures.

Funny enough some of them did humble themselves after the J6 trying to pawn it off as them messing with people for shits and giggles only to go right back to it again as soon as it was socially acceptable. And these are people in the direct path of what he is trying to destroy. Working classes guys who like to smoke weed with no investments or retirements of any kind.

Edit: almost like their hate for others is stronger than their own sense of self preservation or their love of their own kids.

[AntiFascistVoter]

Kids! Remember when any inflation over 2% being the most important issue in American history?!?
Consumers, Bond Markets and Egg Pricers are now expecting 4.3% inflation over the next year (highest since Nov 2023) and the bond market expects 2.57% inflation over 5 years (highest since Mar 2023).

Some how this isnt front page news now that Mistah Trump <whom I did not vote for> is in charge.






But ya'll gonna hvae-to-hand-it-to-Trump when laborAIbot reports great jobs numbers!

[Malkiah]

Edit: almost like their hate for others is stronger than their own sense of self preservation or their love of their own kids.

i mean, we know this is factually true.

https://news.berkeley.edu/2018/05/30/welfare-backlash/

whites will outright reject government assistance programs they themselves benefit from if they think racial minorities are also benefiting from it.

[Calfredd]

The irony of this type of non-response.

And the irony of this type of non-response. What does it feel like to know you keep proving everyone right that you are a bad faith actor who has never in your 10-year, 2,255 post lifespan been someone worth having any kind of discussion with?

[Breccia]

In case you had any lingering doubts about whether Team Trump is racist:

After the WSJ pointed out that person Team Trump willingly hired on purpose had posted you know, that, he was let go...

...but then, Musk asked openly on Twitter if he should be rehired.

"Let me guess, a bunch of Trump supporters said yes, bla bla bla, their opinions don't mean the administration is racist."

No, but Vance responded in public on purpose.

Here's my view: I obviously disagree with some of Elez's posts, but I don't think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid's life.

We shouldn't reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever.

So I say bring him back. If he's a bad dude or a terrible member of the team, fire him for that.

So, the issue wasn't that he was a racist 25-year-old "kid". The issue was he was caught being racist, and the journalists who caught him are to blame. That matches up highly with Team Trump's move to have the people who investigated Trump's many crimes punished, including the death threats they got from Trump's loyal cult of violent terrorists he pardoned.

"Did Vance make a similar comment when the 'Clinton laughs at a rapist' came up in 2016?"

He did not. Look for yourself, you won't find any either.

So yes, Team Trump is now intentionally publicly saying that they don't mind if their staff are racist, but do mind if people point out that their staff are racist. The problem is with the people pointing it out.

[Edge-]

The whole party is just vocally coming out to support misogyny and white supremacy, from the top down.

[Belize]

Did we talk about this? A Jan-6 traitor who was pardoned has been re-arrested for soliciting sex from a minor.

No, not that guy you're thinking about, another one.

[Edge-]

Did we talk about this? A Jan-6 traitor who was pardoned has been re-arrested for soliciting sex from a minor.

No, not that guy you're thinking about, another one.

yes

Somewhatconcerned was seemingly very unconcerned about donald pardoning violent felons with prior histories and pedophiles.

[Moralgy]

yes

Somewhatconcerned was seemingly very unconcerned about donald pardoning violent felons with prior histories and pedophiles.

Hmm very interesting. I wonder why the hit list I posted yesterday got ignored too

[Belize]

Hmm very interesting. I wonder why the hit list I posted yesterday got ignored too

He had already seen, and ignored, it when I had posted about it the day before you :P

[Mekh]

He had already seen, and ignored, it when I had posted about it the day before you :P

To be fair, what's @Somewhatconcerned supposed to do? Admit he's cheering on a bunch of racists? Honesty from a nazi?

[Somewhatconcerned]

To be fair, what's @Somewhatconcerned supposed to do? Admit he's cheering on a bunch of racists? Honesty from a nazi?

Doxxing is unacceptable.

Should be noted that it appears to be coming from some third party group, its not the govt or DOGE posting this info.

In case you all even read your own articles, which half the time doesn't appear to be.

[Moralgy]

He had already seen, and ignored, it when I had posted about it the day before you :P

How interesting, I couldn't possibly figure out why such a thing is being ignored. Interesting interesting

[Edge-]

Doxxing is unacceptable.

The names of government officials, public employees, and finding their previously public social media posts is not doxxing, roflmao.

I see we can add another thing to the list of things you don't understand.