Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[btlcryct]

It's a very preposterous "if" for airplanes landing in Canada. Like, is-this-poster-actually-parodying-leftist-paranoia, "if." And if you're just some right-winger that's play-acting a lefty, then congratulations, you got me.

This might have relevance if Canada was actually already the 51st state, in which case the FAA might conceivably be involved, or if Biden had nationalized the airlines, in which case the federal government might have fucked up the maintenance schedule. It's just misunderstanding the meaning of responsibility to bring this up lacking relevant context.

I'm neither left nor right, I'm independent. And I've voted for both parties since I could start voting. I vote for who I believe is the best candidate, regardless of party. Hell, I voted for Perot in 1996.

The FAA will be involved because the flight originated in the US. They'll need to investigate if anything happened while the plane was in MN. I'm sure this will be done in conjunction with Canada. I'm not saying it was because of Trump, but all avenues need to be investigated. Including if the lack of personnel due to his mass firings play a role. It very well could come out it was 100% due to the weather. And I'd have no problem accepting that. But until then, you shouldn't rule out anything is all I'm saying.

[Breccia]

This thread should have given you abundant cause to not accept something just because Trump said it

Indeed. Hey, why'd you vote for him?

[postman1782]

Times change.

/Garrosh

Not for Trump, inflation is going up, and his tax plan will cause more..

[NED funded]

For little over a century, every republican president has overseen a recession that they caused. (In Hoover's case it was the Great Depression)
And such always resulted in a Democrat getting elected.

I am still mad at the Bush tax cuts. At the time the agencies were saying that the debt would be paid at the end of the decade. Republicans fuck up the fiscal deficit every so years or so with wars and tax cuts

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1891350795452654076

Musk doesnt know what he is saying

[Draco-Onis]

I'm neither left nor right, I'm independent. And I've voted for both parties since I could start voting. I vote for who I believe is the best candidate, regardless of party. Hell, I voted for Perot in 1996.

The FAA will be involved because the flight originated in the US. They'll need to investigate if anything happened while the plane was in MN. I'm sure this will be done in conjunction with Canada. I'm not saying it was because of Trump, but all avenues need to be investigated. Including if the lack of personnel due to his mass firings play a role. It very well could come out it was 100% due to the weather. And I'd have no problem accepting that. But until then, you shouldn't rule out anything is all I'm saying.

It will mostly be Canada, Trump has destroyed the FAA and the investigators. I don't think we are going to have anything remotely resembling a functioning government when they are done.

[Tech614]

Here's my biggest concern about Trump and Elon's presidency. Think about how Trump scammed hundreds of people and businesses through the 80's 90's and 00's, he kept them in legal proceedings until it was too expensive and they folded. He used the justice system to delay justice by submitting endless deferments, appeals, and other requests that slow down the justice system. He KNOWS how to play the justice system.

So all of the things he's doing now, and all of the things he's doing in the future, Democrats will go "Well that's illegal, he can't do that" Oh yeah? So what are you going to do about it? Write Trump a sternly worded letter? File a court case against each of the 500000 things he's done illegal so far? Trump doesn't care about the legality of anything he's doing, and he's made that clear. He knows that if Dems come after him with threats of legal prosecution, nothing is going to happen because even when he can't pardon himself and his yes-men, he can endlessly clog up our justice system.

Face it, the courts failed us when it came to Trump. If he lost the 2024 election he'd be rotting in jail, but Elon made sure he won the election, made sure so well that Elon and Trump both knew they'd won before the election was even called. Y'all best be ready for a fascist run government unless we have Democrats or some other left wing party willing to step up and simply remove Trump and Elon from power forcefully. Nothing else will work, and any action taken like jailing Trump and Elon or killing them will very likely devolve the country into civil war as MAGA gets furious that their fuhrers are taken.

It's really hard to take you serious if you're still in a state where you believe Elon Musk rigged the election.

Trump being in power is indeed horrible, but this doomer bullshit about how the courts can't do anything aren't really holding up in reality because every TRO issued by courts have not been violated by Trump or DOGE so the courts are indeed working you will just continue to claim they aren't because Trump isn't locked up in a prison, which yes is unfortunate but the courts are working and Trump is not going over them. Until you can provide an example of such happening this remains in the conspiracy theory realm along with claiming a rigged election.

Blue Anon alive and well out here.

[Xath]

It's really hard to take you serious if you're still in a state where you believe Elon Musk rigged the election.

Trump being in power is indeed horrible, but this doomer bullshit about how the courts can't do anything aren't really holding up in reality because every TRO issues by courts have not been violated by Trump or DOGE so the courts are indeed working you will just continue to claim they aren't because Trump isn't locked up in a prison, which yes is unfortunate but the courts are working and Trump is not going over them.

The numbers are extremely weird for how close the election was. All 7 swing states were won over auto recount margin while largely losing down ballot races. Granted maybe people are just sexist but it's weird.

Also he is ignoring the court orders to unfreeze assets.

[NED funded]

It's really hard to take you serious if you're still in a state where you believe Elon Musk rigged the election.

Trump being in power is indeed horrible, but this doomer bullshit about how the courts can't do anything aren't really holding up in reality because every TRO issued by courts have not been violated by Trump or DOGE so the courts are indeed working you will just continue to claim they aren't because Trump isn't locked up in a prison, which yes is unfortunate but the courts are working and Trump is not going over them. Until you can provide an example of such happening this remains in the conspiracy theory realm along with claiming a rigged election.

Blue Anon alive and well out here.

This is not true

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ing-rcna191528

[Tech614]

This is not true

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ing-rcna191528

Not a violated TRO, and just a pause on funding not removal of funding. Yes Trump has ignored it for now, if the money actually disappears and never is released again you have a point but otherwise it's more of the same bullshit posturing to expect from Trump.

So think reading is in order before coming to the defense of a blue anon "musk rigged the election and the world is d0000med" poster.

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The numbers are extremely weird for how close the election was. All 7 swing states were won over auto recount margin while largely losing down ballot races. Granted maybe people are just sexist but it's weird.

Also he is ignoring the court orders to unfreeze assets.

There is nothing weird about it and you are in full blown "just asking questions" mode like the MAGAts where following 2020. You just have to come to grips with the fact Kamala's campaign did not resonate with voters, so bad to the point where they would vote for a fascist.

[NED funded]

Not a violated TRO, and just a pause on funding not removal of funding. Yes Trump has ignored it for now, if the money actually disappears and never is released again you have a point but otherwise it's more of the same bullshit posturing to expect from Trump.

So think reading is in order before coming to the defense of a blue anon "musk rigged the election and the world is d0000med" poster.

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There is nothing weird about it and you are in full blown "just asking questions" mode like the MAGAts where following 2020. You just have to come to grips with the fact Kamala's campaign did not resonate with voters, so bad to the point where they would vote for a fascist.

He literally did violate a TRO. Its not explicit in that article.

However, the judge was straightforward in his finding that the initial temporary restraining order that he issued Jan. 29 was not being followed.

“These pauses in funding violate the plain text of the T.R.O.,” Judge McConnell wrote. That earlier ruling ordered the administration not to “pause, freeze, impede, block, cancel or terminate” money that had already been allocated by Congress to the states to pay for Medicaid, school lunches, low-income housing subsidies and other essential services.

https://archive.is/nHEW7#selection-4871.0-4878.0

Here its more obvious. Its the NYT, I archived it so its free to read

[gondrin]

So, more resignations because of Adam's quid pro quo with Trumps DoJ. These are coming from Adams own deputies. And it looks like now the Governor of NY may start to want to remove him from office. Which is a thing she can do.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ho...d=BingNewsSerp

This is on top of the 7 prosecutors, most of whom are very conservative leaning, all resigned in protest of being asked to or forced to sign a literal quid pro quo with Adams to drop his case in return to enforce Trumps immigration policy.

Remember folks, it took 3 people to resign when Nixon was basically threatened to be impeached and it was called the Saturday Night Massacre when he asked his AG to fire the person subpoenaed for the White House tapes dealing with Watergate and they refused and resigned.

Back then, it would be impeachment. Now, it is just another day of the week for the most corrupt administration probably ever.

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Not a violated TRO, and just a pause on funding not removal of funding. Yes Trump has ignored it for now, if the money actually disappears and never is released again you have a point but otherwise it's more of the same bullshit posturing to expect from Trump.

So think reading is in order before coming to the defense of a blue anon "musk rigged the election and the world is d0000med" poster.

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There is nothing weird about it and you are in full blown "just asking questions" mode like the MAGAts where following 2020. You just have to come to grips with the fact Kamala's campaign did not resonate with voters, so bad to the point where they would vote for a fascist.

The TRO also dealt with pausing of money. Which Trump did violate.

[Bwgmon]

So, more resignations because of Adam's quid pro quo with Trumps DoJ. These are coming from Adams own deputies. And it looks like now the Governor of NY may start to want to remove him from office. Which is a thing she can do.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ho...d=BingNewsSerp

This is on top of the 7 prosecutors, most of whom are very conservative leaning, all resigned in protest of being asked to or forced to sign a literal quid pro quo with Adams to drop his case in return to enforce Trumps immigration policy.

I'm not going to expect much, but it would be very funny if Trump did all that pushing for a literal quid pro quo in spite of the massive spotlight shining on it just for the Governer to go "No. Get the fuck out."

[gondrin]

I'm not going to expect much, but it would be very funny if Trump did all that pushing for a literal quid pro quo in spite of the massive spotlight shining on it just for the Governer to go "No. Get the fuck out."

Honestly, I don't think it was Trump as I don't think he has any actual knowledge of this. I think it was Hamon, Bove and Bondi wanting to get into NYC to have the local law enforcement be forced to work with ICE. Which, in any sane administration, would call for their immediate termination. But, as we can see, having one of the most corrupt people on the planet will breed corruption through the rank and file.

Granted, Trump still takes the blame here because, like any business owner, you are at fault for what your workers do even if you had no direct knowledge as you hired them. But I honestly don't think he has any actual knowledge of what the rest of his administration is actually doing outside of some very specific things.

Funny thing is that one of the reasons they want to use to drop the charges is the same exact one used by Bove used when representing Trump. That it would be too close to his re-election and that he wouldn't be able to focus on trying to be re-elected.

[Xath]

Not a violated TRO, and just a pause on funding not removal of funding. Yes Trump has ignored it for now, if the money actually disappears and never is released again you have a point but otherwise it's more of the same bullshit posturing to expect from Trump.

So think reading is in order before coming to the defense of a blue anon "musk rigged the election and the world is d0000med" poster.

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There is nothing weird about it and you are in full blown "just asking questions" mode like the MAGAts where following 2020. You just have to come to grips with the fact Kamala's campaign did not resonate with voters, so bad to the point where they would vote for a fascist.

There literally is though? We are talking about numbers in swing states across all swing states that haven't been seen since Regan but that unlike Regan largely came with losing down ballot. Harris having less votes than AG candidates is very very weird. Bullet votes are semi common in presidential elections what is weird is to see the opposite. There are also members on Elon's doge team who literally did a hackathon on how to fake election ballots from an electronic perspective. Every single swing state over auto recount triggers is beyond weird.

Also he did violated a TRO and is continuing to do so. Don't worry I'm sure the Supreme Court is about to basically eliminate the system of checks and balances since it's what they were put in to do and then we find out what happens when the military is given unlawful orders. This summer will not be fun.

[NED funded]

The reason its called a constitutional crisis bc the executive is in charge of executing on the bills passed by congress (including funding) and enforces the rulings of the judicial system. Trump and Musk are making a play to expand the powers of the executive to basically defang congress and ignoring court orders. Vance is literally out there saying as much.

We still dont know if the Trump admin is complying or acting more discrete.

[Tech614]

There literally is though? We are talking about numbers in swing states across all swing states that haven't been seen since Regan but that unlike Regan largely came with losing down ballot. Harris having less votes than AG candidates is very very weird. Bullet votes are semi common in presidential elections what is weird is to see the opposite. There are also members on Elon's doge team who literally did a hackathon on how to fake election ballots from an electronic perspective. Every single swing state over auto recount triggers is beyond weird.

You have 0 evidence of any voter fraud the only thing you're playing off of is the exact same bullshit every conspiracy theory tries to attack for people that lack critical thinking skills. Find something that breaks a trend, keep stating it over and over again like trends should never be broken and insist there was a conspiracy behind it being broken. You aren't original, you are falling for the same bollocks MAGAts did. You think because you read it on bluesky instead of twitter than it's not grifting? lol.

Also he did violated a TRO and is continuing to do so.

Link him doing so, without a court being able to respond and do anything about it. Until then the checks remain in place.

Anyways in non doomer conspiracy theory bullshit being peddled by our resident blue anon posters this caught my a chuckle:

"The avian flu is a real thing, and by the way, it's spread mostly by ducks and geese," said Hassett. "And so think about it, they're killing chickens to stop the spread, but chickens don't really fly. The spread is happening from the geese and the ducks. And so, why does it make any sense to have a big perimeter of dead chickens when it's the ducks and the geese that are spreading it?"

Trump is going to kill off all our migratory birds to save the egg prices yall. The concept of a plan has become a plan.

[Fugus]

FOX News reports *ding* Musk claims he found a line item in the budget that was $4.7 trillion in untraceable government fraud.

"Five trillion? Where?"

He didn't. Musk is lying. That amount of money can't just vanish. Musk just wants people to think he's finding enough fraud to justify handing him Fort Knox and Social Security.

Plot twist, that 4.7 trillion really is gone, but it was taken when he had access to the treasury with the log deleted. Steal the cash, then use it as an excuse of fraud to give you the green light to look for more.

[Tech614]

Plot twist, that 4.7 trillion really is gone, but it was taken when he had access to the treasury with the log deleted. Steal the cash, then use it as an excuse of fraud to give you the green light to look for more.

You watched too many hacker movies if you think you can move 4.7 trillion between bank accounts with a simple press of a button and delete all traces lmao.

Musk's claim is ofc bullshit, but so is the idea that he stole the stated amount rofl.

[Fugus]

You watched too many hacker movies if you think you can move 4.7 trillion between bank accounts with a simple press of a button and delete all traces lmao.

Musk's claim is ofc bullshit, but so is the idea that he stole the stated amount rofl.

Not so much the push of a button, this isn't Swordfish or anything. Was meaning more like the backdoor he was apparently trying to put in where he could redirect payments. And have some go straight negative. But deleting all traces wouldn't be needed, all that would be needed would be to delete the most apparent ones while Trump blocked any real forensics into it.

But half meant it sarcastically, half along the lines of he stole some and then embellished the amounts trying to use his theft to justify access to it to go for more.

[Xath]

You have 0 evidence of any voter fraud the only thing you're playing off of is the exact same bullshit every conspiracy theory tries to attack for people that lack critical thinking skills. Find something that breaks a trend, keep stating it over and over again like trends should never be broken and insist there was a conspiracy behind it being broken. You aren't original, you are falling for the same bollocks MAGAts did. You think because you read it on bluesky instead of twitter than it's not grifting? lol.



Link him doing so, without a court being able to respond and do anything about it. Until then the checks remain in place.

Anyways in non doomer conspiracy theory bullshit being peddled by our resident blue anon posters this caught my a chuckle:



Trump is going to kill off all our migratory birds to save the egg prices yall. The concept of a plan has become a plan.

Freezing the funding and refusing to release it is a violation.

Also not the same there are a ton of very weird events 80+ counties flipping and not a single one flipping blue. The bullet drops. Trump literally giving credit for Penn to Elon because he knows the voting machines well.