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    Republicans don't believe in COVID so obviously bird flu is just fakenews too

    This is basically going to be a chicken version of 2020 for the US except we have just decided to cut FDA staffing.

    Hope the trolls are paid enough to keep paying their bills. They already sold their dignity for this

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    Well, the first measles death has occurred thanks to the anti-vax crowd. First measles death since 2015.

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/26/us-new...sles-outbreak/

    And add another plane crash too:

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/26/us-new...eople-injured/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    we'll just buy eggs from somewhere else lawl, there's an infinite supply of eggs elsewhere and no logistical challenges in getting them to the US
    I hear it’s real easy to ship items know for being both perishable and delicate long distances.
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    25% tariffs on the EU are a fact.

    The EU has had tariffs on US products for some time now, cars for example are at 20% if can remember correctly.

    20% would have been fine, it would go hand in hand with what the EU is doing. 25% is overkill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    This is not good.
    Is there a single thing trump has said, done, or said he’ll do that this sentiment doesn’t just immediately apply to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    The EU has had tariffs on US products for some time now, cars for example are at 20% if can remember correctly.
    10%. The US has existing tariffs at 2.5% on EU autos generally, and 25% on pickup trucks (the most popular type of car sold in the US).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    25% on pickup trucks (the most popular type of car sold in the US).
    Its the Chicken Tax!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
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    Quote Originally Posted by btlcryct View Post
    Well, the first measles death has occurred thanks to the anti-vax crowd. First measles death since 2015.
    The comments are split between "When we were kids, we had measles parties and it didn't harm us!" and "This is somehow Biden's fault, because obviously it was an illegal who brought the disease in."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Is there a single thing trump has said, done, or said he’ll do that this sentiment doesn’t just immediately apply to?
    The problem isn't the fact that these are dumb decisions, the problem is that these decisions serve no purpose. Even a dumb decision has a reason for existing. These decisions leave me dumbstruck, I just do not understand why he's doing this.

    Historically, like I've already said in this forum, raising tariffs is one of the straws that breaks the camel's back. We are going through a rough macroeconomic climate of inverted bond yield curves, inflation and high interest rates, why the fuck would he opt for tariffs NOW of all the times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    25% tariffs on the EU are a fact.

    The EU has had tariffs on US products for some time now
    The US has tariffs on some European goods as well, I think it all goes back to the US being mad about we wouldn't allow American meat containing growth hormones and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    The problem isn't the fact that these are dumb decisions, the problem is that these decisions serve no purpose. Even a dumb decision has a reason for existing. These decisions leave me dumbstruck, I just do not understand why he's doing this.
    You keep expecting there to be logic and a plan where there is none. Why on earth do you think Donald has some kind of overarching economic plan when the only thing he seems to understand is "taxes bad, tariffs good"?

    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    Historically, like I've already said in this thread, raising tariffs is one of the straws that breaks the camel's back. We are going through a rough macroeconomic climate of inverted bond yield curves, inflation and high interest rates, why the fuck would he opt for tariffs NOW of all the times?
    Again, why on earth do you think Donald is aware of or capable of understanding any of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diller View Post
    The US has tariffs on some European goods as well, I think it all goes back to the US being mad about we wouldn't allow American meat containing growth hormones and stuff.
    We don't need no freedom meat, we got enough. The Netherlands has like 4 million cows, literally raising the EU methane gas average all by themselves because these cows literally fart too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Why would that take luck?

    If we have a new president, we'll also have Congress back. The GoP has a super narrow margin right now, and next time the people who vote with the economy will abandon them, they won't have Trump on the ballot to drag out the cultists, and all the people who had their faces eaten will think twice. That'll cause a fierce backlash. Heck, the GoP will almost certainly lose one or both chambers in 2026 even before we get to the 2028 elections.
    If congress even gets voted on in 2028, it's not going to matter any more when they consolidate control and lawmaking power into the executive. If there is a presidential election in 2028, it's either going to be for Trump or some other MAGA loyalist like JD Vance or Kushner or equivalent. That or they'll figure out how to let Elon run. MAGA will be at single digit approval by that time and somehow still mysteriously win perhaps even with a super majority and y'all will go *SHOCKEDPIKACHUFACE* "How could this have happened, the polls said we were gonna win!"
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    But what about the cost of eggs???!!


    https://thehill.com/policy/5164929-e...tegy/?tbref=hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    If congress even gets voted on in 2028, it's not going to matter any more when they consolidate control and lawmaking power into the executive. If there is a presidential election in 2028, it's either going to be for Trump or some other MAGA loyalist like JD Vance or Kushner or equivalent. That or they'll figure out how to let Elon run. MAGA will be at single digit approval by that time and somehow still mysteriously win perhaps even with a super majority and y'all will go *SHOCKEDPIKACHUFACE* "How could this have happened, the polls said we were gonna win!"
    Dems will outright lose elections moving forward, you don't need to invest a conspiracy theory. They are widely unpopular and have zero novel ideas for anything.

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    So anyway, Trump wants to make golden statues of himself in Gaza. Anyone who knows Christianity properly, knows that the only one who erects golden statues of himself in the kingdom of God (Jerusalem area) is the literal antichrist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Dems will outright lose elections moving forward, you don't need to invest a conspiracy theory. They are widely unpopular and have zero novel ideas for anything.
    You actually think MAGA is going to win vs Dems on popularity alone? Delusional. Good thing you've got Elon Musk on your side to fiddle with those voting machines.

    Once Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP/EBT stop being paid out, the first waves of economic collapse are going to go roaring through our society. MAGA doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in 2028, even vs Dems, with the absolute devastation that's coming to the US economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    But what about the cost of eggs???!!


    https://thehill.com/policy/5164929-e...tegy/?tbref=hp

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    Dems will outright lose elections moving forward, you don't need to invest a conspiracy theory. They are widely unpopular and have zero novel ideas for anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    USDA predicts that the price of eggs will go up 41.1% in 2025. The reality is that we, as in the whole world, are losing the war against the current strain of bird flu. All the normal mitigation measures – flock culling, sterilization, separation against wild birds, etc. – are not working with the current strain. Egg producers are pushing for vaccine which the USDA is trying to acquire from EU. However, meat producers are against vaccine. The US shipped around $6b chicken products per year. Countries are wary about accepting products from vaccinated chickens. The vaccine could hide symptoms and allowed diseases to cross borders.

    Did I mention that this is a global issue? As in it is everywhere, and so far, 45 mammal species have been infected – cows, dolphins, seals, etc. All it takes is for the virus to evolve and starts infecting us. The price of chicken eggs will be the least of our concerns then.

    This is not the time to cut NIH, NSF, USDA, FDA and CDC funding and workforce.

    Personally, I stand on the side of the whole world using the vaccine. We do not want this bird flu strain to evolve.
    You're a bit late to the party, m8.

    I'll listen to the USDA over a political appointee who is bragging about doing a bunch of stuff already being done under the prior administration.

    Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    So anyway, Trump wants to make golden statues of himself in Gaza.
    i remember there being something against "golden idols" in some religions, i'm sure we'll hear from that crowd any moment

    also, go figure that conservative "art" appears to just be asking ai to make very bad, low-effort images. this picture would have been bad ai slop a few years back, and ai images have made enormous improvements since then.

    i'm reminded of that social post from a conservative weirdo lauding how conservatives would be generating the best art using ai moving forward and how that dear sweet ignorant soul missed the whole point of "art"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    But what about the cost of eggs???!!


    https://thehill.com/policy/5164929-e...tegy/?tbref=hp

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    Dems will outright lose elections moving forward, you don't need to invest a conspiracy theory. They are widely unpopular and have zero novel ideas for anything.
    Go back to Russia

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    The WSJ board takes issue with Trump threatening Michigan in an OP ED.

    Businesses breathed a sigh of relief after President Trump gave Mexico and Canada a 30-day reprieve from his threatened 25% tariffs. But on Monday he said he is “going forward” with the tariffs next week. If the goal is to harm U.S. auto workers and Republican prospects in Michigan, then by all means go ahead, Mr. President.

    Ford Motor CEO Jim Farley warned this month that Mr. Trump’s threatened tariffs would “blow a hole” in the U.S. auto industry, and that’s more than self-interest talking. American auto plants rely on parts made in Canada and Mexico, some of which include U.S. content. A new analysis by the Anderson Economic Group examines the potential tariff damage.

    Start with auto prices. The study estimates that a 25% tariff on the U.S. neighbors would increase the cost of a full-size SUV assembled in North America by $9,000 and a pickup truck by $8,000. The cost of an electric-vehicle cross-over would increase by $12,200. Canada is the biggest supplier to the U.S. of nickel, a key critical mineral in lithium-ion batteries.

    Such higher prices owe partly-
    "Excuse me, sorry to interrupt, you said WSJ?"

    ...yes?

    "Isn't Trump spending all day complaining about them?"

    Yes, he saw the article and points out that Michigan was a state he already one.

    "You typoed 'one'."

    No. I didn't.

    "So, did Trump read the article, which was at least partly about how expensive imported parts were? Like, Michigan does import a lot of auto parts, he knows that, right?"

    I'm not convinced he does.

    "Did Musk see the part about electric vehicles? The part where his Teslas could cost an extra $12,000? The business of his that's failing?"

    I imagine he saw it, yes. Musk is creating factories in India as we speak. Yes, the person running the MAGA White House is building overseas on purpose.

    Domestic demand for some vehicle models — especially sedans — isn't sufficient to justify the cost of building new U.S. factories. Auto makers will have to absorb the tariff, increase prices on cars, or stop selling some models because they are too expensive. U.S. auto workers will pay, too, if auto sales drop as a result of higher prices. Note that new U.S. vehicle sales last year were about 1.2 million lower than in 2019, largely because inflation and higher interest rates have made cars less affordable. One result is that U.S. plants produced 340,000 fewer cars last year than in 2019

    Trump may think tariffs will yield a new economic golden age, but workers, businesses and financial markets may not enjoy the long march to this promised land.
    "...did the WSJ endorse Harris?"

    Actually, they refused to endorse either candidate, "A Harris Victory Means a Fourth Obama Term" being the headline of their non-endorsement. But they haven't endorsed anyone for the last century.

    "...are they having second thoughts yet?"

    They said Harris wasn't ready for the big challenges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    But what about the cost of eggs???!!


    https://thehill.com/policy/5164929-e...tegy/?tbref=hp
    That's a lot of fluff there's only one line in that dribble that should concern you, they are attacking California for spacing the chickens. Now riddle me this batman, what happens when you squish non sick people with sick people? This administration wants to own the libs in CA so bad they want to implement policies that will spread the disease more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    i remember there being something against "golden idols" in some religions, i'm sure we'll hear from that crowd any moment

    also, go figure that conservative "art" appears to just be asking ai to make very bad, low-effort images. this picture would have been bad ai slop a few years back, and ai images have made enormous improvements since then.

    i'm reminded of that social post from a conservative weirdo lauding how conservatives would be generating the best art using ai moving forward and how that dear sweet ignorant soul missed the whole point of "art"
    At least there's one amusing thing about that video, you can go back and watch or take my word for it. Check out the two dancers on the beach on the video. They have man faces, beards, tits, hips. Trump wants stereotype level transgender dancers in his vision of Gaza.
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