Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[NED funded]

Canada is still the US's number one trade partner. You're also ignoring the export side and Trump pissed off a vast number of Canadians.

Thats not true. The top trading partner is Mexico.

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Now I'm curious what the projection will be at the end of the month if the trend continues

If it keeps going down it will be a larger recession than even the great recession lol at -4.3%

LMAO

Negative GDP plus rising prices. Literally stagflation

[NineSpine]

Thats not true. The top trading partner is Mexico.

This is only a matter of how you calculate it. The bottom line is that even if Canada is slipping, it is slipping from being #1 or #2, not to #50. It's still vital, especially for construction materials during a time when housing prices are totally out of control.

[Breccia]

wait..did their forcast drop 0.2% IN ONE F%@ING DAY?!?!

Don't be ridiculous.

It did that twice in a row.

[Kaleredar]

You absolutely can, when your voting base consists of mouth breathing retards.

After eight years it should be clear that they aren’t changing their minds. The statement about shooting someone in broad daylight and him not losing his supporters is as true as ever.

But again it’s never been about them. It’s about convincing the low-information, low-engagement voters who vote based off the latest headlines and “vibes” to not vote for Trump, and right now headlines and vibes are not in Trump’s side. And I really don’t see that changing much given his… oh, absolute rank incompetence and utter inability to get himself out of the hole he’s digging right now.

[Elder Millennial]

Something like 80% of MAGA voters could be dying from diabetes, toothless, unemployed, homeless, sitting on a street corner, and would vote for Trump again...Because a trans girl played volleyball with other girls once or because a female PhD candidate got a teaching position.

[Draco-Onis]

You absolutely can, when your voting base consists of mouth breathing retards.

I don't know about this while there is a hard core base that may not budge even the ones who are dumb as rock will get the gist when things like their social security checks stop coming.

[Ivanstone]

Thats not true. The top trading partner is Mexico.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

[cordrann]

that's the wrong question, because they aren't "toeing the line for trump", trump is just enacting all of their policy goals and their political agenda in a manner that is more forward and brash than people are used to.
for about 50 years the US conservative modus operandi was basically "try to slip it in real slow so they don't notice", then obama happened and they found out you can call the president an uppity nigger on live TV and nobody will give a shit, and they started to alter their tactics to fit the fact they didn't have to pretend anymore.

trump tanking the US economy and propping up russia is the republican agenda. trump dismantling the federal government and letting private citizens come in and fuck with the system is the republican plan for america. a massive depression and layoffs is the goal of republican economic policy.
absolutely none of this is outside "the plan" in any way, so the real question is: how long will people think that "oh just vote democrat" is an effective solution to opposing this kind of ideological agenda?

IMO the real reckoning here is gonna be the public's reaction to the next 4 years, because this is the "third time's the charm" moment for the US: this is the 3rd nakedly conservative presidency we've had in the era post the GOP merging with the religious right, and either people (and by "people" here i mean the 50% of the country that doesn't support this shit) are going to wake up and realize it's not the 50s anymore and republicans aren't well meaning politicians who just have different ideas about how to approach things, or else the US will collectively sigh in relief that "oh well thank god that's over" because trump isn't on the ballot and pretend everything will be different now.
it's not going to be different folks, this is the face of half of the institutional political power in this country.

While dismantling the federal government and privatizing everything has been the Republican agenda for over 50 years at this point, the propping up Russia thing is unique to the Trump cult. Even now after multiple days of anti-Ukraine propaganda from the Trump administration, the majority of GOP voters have an adversarial view of Russia.

[alach]

Trudeau is saying all the right things.

DOW falling like a rock.

Still waiting to hear Mexicos presidents response.

[Poopymonster]

Something like 80% of MAGA voters could be dying from diabetes, toothless, unemployed, homeless, sitting on a street corner, and would vote for Trump again...Because a trans girl played volleyball with other girls once or because a female PhD candidate got a teaching position.

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How long would it take for that 80% of their voters to die off?
Would that time frame count as a "Short term pain for long term gain"?
How long would it take for adults to be back in charge?

Asking for a person who is distinctly, completely, and utterly not me.

[Kaleredar]

While dismantling the federal government and privatizing everything has been the Republican agenda for over 50 years at this point, the propping up Russia thing is unique to the Trump cult. Even now after multiple days of anti-Ukraine propaganda from the Trump administration, the majority of GOP voters have an adversarial view of Russia.

You don’t just undo 70 years of American culture depicting Russia as the enemy in a few weeks of fat orange bloviating.

[Breccia]

Trudeau is saying all the right things.

Ontario will cut off U.S. electricity exports 'with a smile on my face,' Ford says

Speaking Monday at a mining convention in downtown Toronto, Ontario Premier Doug Ford doubled down on threats to cut electricity exports to U.S. border states if the tariffs go through.

“If they want to try to annihilate Ontario, I will do everything — including cut off their energy with a smile on my face,” Ford told reporters.

“They rely on our energy, they need to feel the pain. They want to come at us hard, we’re going to come back twice as hard.”

The United States is a major customer for Canadian electricity, with all American power grids — with the exception of Texas — interconnected with Canadian provinces.

New York, Michigan and Minnesota are Ontario’s three biggest customers of domestically-produced power.

So, NY resident here. Um...we'll take the cutoff, if it means so does Detroit. We can scrape by in the summer without our AC. Detroit cannot survive without making cars. Yes, flip the switch, I'm begging you.

DOW falling like a rock.

Stop updating while I'm responding jeez

[Poopymonster]

You don’t just undo 70 years of American culture depicting Russia as the enemy in a few weeks of fat orange bloviating.

"Hold my Diet Coke"

[Nymrohd]

You don’t just undo 70 years of American culture depicting Russia as the enemy in a few weeks of fat orange bloviating.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...-with-ukraine/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-e...ll-2025-03-02/
Are you sure?

[Breccia]

Trump threatens to stop funding for any colleges allowing ‘illegal protests’

"Which protests are illegal?"

According to the Constitution, none of them. Protesting is protected speech. Just don't, you know, run over someone because you're a Nazi and you'll be fine.

"So the problem is with the crime, not the protests? Why didn't he just say that?"

Because Trump does not follow the Constitution. He said so himself.

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You don’t just undo 70 years of American culture depicting Russia as the enemy in a few weeks of fat orange bloviating.

According to half the country, yes we have.

[Kaleredar]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...-with-ukraine/

Are you sure?

America as a whole, not trump and his feckless stooges.

And even at that point, a majority of republicans still find Russia distrustful.

Of course that’s not going to do anything materially to stop Trump and his support, but lest the world think Americans as a whole are on board with his support of Russia.

[Breccia]

Hopefully Mexico will understand that this is not a trade war. This is a drug war.
-- Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick

"But, didn't Mexico agree to Trump's demand of sending troops to the border?"

Yes.

"And Trump's response, to Mexico agreeing to help fight the flow of drugs across the border, was to tax American businesses who import Mexican goods?"

Yes.

"...how is this a drug war when the drugs aren't involved?"

The most likely explanation is Trump is lying. He was going to do the tariffs anyhow. We had the same conversation earlier. The difference, this time, is he is not letting his shallow, patheticly transparent excuse be challenged.

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lest the world think Americans as a whole are on board with his support of Russia.

Why wouldn't they? Everyone is power is letting Russia win. All evidence available leads to that conclusion.

[alach]

Stop updating while I'm responding jeez

Sorrie.

Well, it was a good speech with some proper counters to the trump aggression. I feel proud of my government and country. I imagine its a feeling most americans will be unfamiliar with for a good few years.

[Xath]

DOW is in free fall and they don't care get liquid as fast as you can or at least move to stocks like Wally's world this is going to get bad very fast.

[Breccia]

Sorrie.

I actually thought it was funny

By the way, it's down 800 now. It might bounce up a bit, but there is no joy to be found in this market. Yesterday, Trump has erased all gains since he was either elected or inaugurated. Now, he has erased all gains since October.

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China slaps extra tariffs of up to 15% on imports of major US farm exports and adds trade limits

Imports of U.S.-grown chicken, wheat, corn and cotton will face an extra 15% tariff, the Chinese ministry said. Tariffs on sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, seafood, fruit, vegetables and dairy products will be increased by 10%.

Obviously, this is part of the market rout we're seeing. I just wanted to name a few specifics.

So, when Trump said literally yesterday that farmers had exciting new opportunities, this is what he meant.