Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[alach]

His speech was so long, Adrien Brody play him off...

Seriously though, how much longer do you think it will be before orange t starts to go after the late night talk shows. Hes got it out bad for Kimmel. I am thinking within a year he will try and shut them all down, citing free speech or some garbage.

[Pannonian]

I dont get this entitlement to be honest.

Voting is not only a right, its a responsibility. Act like fucking adults. Especially in the USA with a binary choice its simple. If you do not support A you support B. Standing on the sidelines and complaining is more akin to the behavior of edgy teenagers.

And yes, the responsibility also includes to inform oneself. Democracy is work, and it will not be catered to you.

[Corvus]

After initially supporting trumps tariffs, the president of the Kentucky distillery association is now whining about the 'unjust and disproportionate' response by Canada.

Hey, if Canada doesn't want to buy your slop anymore you can take it up with Trump. You can't force people to buy your products if they don't want to.

[PhaelixWW]

After initially supporting trumps tariffs, the president of the Kentucky distillery association is now whining about the 'unjust and disproportionate' response by Canada.

Fuck around and find out face/off.

[Timester]

After initially supporting trumps tariffs, the president of the Kentucky distillery association is now whining about the 'unjust and disproportionate' response by Canada.

Hey, if Canada doesn't want to buy your slop anymore you can take it up with Trump. You can't force people to buy your products if they don't want to.

Month before: "YES! Now people will buy our products only!"

Month later: "What? People aren't buying our products?!? I thought tariffs forced them!!!"


Promote stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Flarelaine]

fuckin alito and thomas continue to be like "yes the president is a king and a lower court can't stop a president who tries to do an illegal and unconstitutional thing because they're a lower court"

and lordy they can't stroke out soon enough

You really don't want them to stroke out during this term. That would just hand their seats to bright-eyed young cultists for the next half-century.

[Timester]

You really don't want them to stroke out during this term. That would just hand their seats to bright-eyed young cultists for the next half-century.

The cult will die the moment the Orange dies.

[Flarelaine]

The cult will die the moment the Orange dies.

Some of the cult people were demonstrably dishonest ratfuckers long before Trump even dipped a toe in politics. They will remain dishonest ratfuckers, only with seats on the SCOTUS.

[Teriz]

What exactly did Kamala do to attract low income americans to vote for her? She went out there and bragged about spending tax payer money to help build the wall, kept in line with giving tons of money to israel basically promised jack shit in relief for the lowest income americans.

+25k for first time home buyers.
+Going after corporate price gouging to further reduce prices for consumers.
+Restoration of the Child tax credit and Earned Income Credit
+Erase medical debt, reduce drug prices, and push for an expansion of the ACA and eventually a single payer healthcare system.
+Allow Trump's tax cuts to expire and institute a tax plan that would raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy and reduce taxes on the working class and the poor.

I will never blame Kamala for the stupidity of the average American voter.

[PhaelixWW]

Some of the cult people were demonstrably dishonest ratfuckers long before Trump even dipped a toe in politics. They will remain dishonest ratfuckers, only with seats on the SCOTUS.

We really, really need to increase the size of the Supreme Court.

[Flarelaine]

We really, really need to increase the size of the Supreme Court.

As long as the same tug of war goes on for the seats, adding more is a bandaid at best.

[PhaelixWW]

As long as the same tug of war goes on for the seats, adding more is a bandaid at best.

It still decreases the chances of a permanent, automatic bias for one side. It also increases the chances of more consistent turnover, rather than sometimes waiting 10+ years between open seats.

[En Sabah Nur]

Should probably post in the Russia thread but...

Trump to revoke legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians as US steps up deportations

At this point, all I have left in me is to sigh.

[Corvus]

The rest of five eyes as well as Israel and the Saudis are reconsidering intelligence sharing with the US to protect assets.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...-us-rcna194420

They know Trump will send it to his boss and no doubt Israel and the Saudis are worried it will end up with Iran after that.

[Elder Millennial]

Sip

I'm sorry, but I simply do not buy the whole "price of eggs" and "perception of economy" narrative. I am being 100% honest, I do not believe there was a single voter under the sun, no matter how dumb or ignorant who voted for Trump based on the belief that the economy would improve under his administration. The entire whining and whinging about the economy completely vanished on the 6th of November. Paying 5 dollars for a dozen eggs has went from "How will I feed my kids?" to "It's patriotic to pay 12 dollars for eggs, also if you want Medicaid or food stamps go get a job...and the minimum wage stays at 7.5, and those damn kids should get jobs if they want eggs for breakfast!"

Harris could have promised free houses to everyone, 1000 monthly government checks, 20% tax cuts, free healthcare and 428794592564 other things the people who either refused to vote or voted for Trump still wouldn't have voted for the Dems.

It was all 100% aesthetics. America likes the "vibe" of MAGA, the slogans, the big flags, the hats, the bigotry, the lynch mob mentality and or dislikes the "vibe" of the status quo + average competency. That's how Trump made such inroads with the very communities he spent the last 8+ years shitting on, you know like the Muslims who forgot about the Muslim ban and the promises of nuking the Middle East, or the Latinos who convinced themselves that THEY are "some of them are good people" and they won't be negatively affected, and the LGB no Q or T gays who blow up Grindr at every conservative rally etc. It was all about sloganeering and punching down.

[Gorsameth]

The rest of five eyes as well as Israel and the Saudis are reconsidering intelligence sharing with the US to protect assets.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...-us-rcna194420

They know Trump will send it to his boss and no doubt Israel and the Saudis are worried it will end up with Iran after that.

Trump already burned Israeli intelligence during his first term. There is no way Israel isn't already holding back sensitive intelligence from the US.

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I'm sorry, but I simply do not buy the whole "price of eggs" and "perception of economy" narrative. I am being 100% honest, I do not believe there was a single voter under the sun, no matter how dumb or ignorant who voted for Trump based on the belief that the economy would improve under his administration. The entire whining and whinging about the economy completely vanished on the 6th of November. Paying 5 dollars for a dozen eggs has went from "How will I feed my kids?" to "It's patriotic to pay 12 dollars for eggs, also if you want Medicaid or food stamps go get a job...and the minimum wage stays at 7.5, and those damn kids should get jobs if they want eggs for breakfast!"

Harris could have promised free houses to everyone, 1000 monthly government checks, 20% tax cuts, free healthcare and 428794592564 other things the people who either refused to vote or voted for Trump still wouldn't have voted for the Dems.

It was all 100% aesthetics. America likes the "vibe" of MAGA, the slogans, the big flags, the hats, the bigotry, the lynch mob mentality and or dislikes the "vibe" of the status quo + average competency. That's how Trump made such inroads with the very communities he spent the last 8+ years shitting on, you know like the Muslims who forgot about the Muslim ban and the promises of nuking the Middle East, or the Latinos who convinced themselves that THEY are "some of them are good people" and they won't be negatively affected, and the LGB no Q or T gays who blow up Grindr at every conservative rally etc. It was all about sloganeering and punching down.

You stopped hearing about it because you heard it from conservative sources. And for them it is indeed bullshit.

But the actual (small) group of undecided voters who do have a big impact on elections are not on the internet yelling about it. They don't talk about politics in general because they don't give a shit. If they did they wouldn't be undecided voters in this day and age.
But they absolutely vote with their wallet when they get into the booth.

[Breccia]

86% of Americans approved of President Trump's historic speech.

That's so interesting, that you would post this result without actually showing the poll it came from. Especially since we did have a poll that (a) was people who saw the address, not Americans overall, and (b) even it didn't say it was 86%.

Surely such a result exists, and you, as a good-faith genuine honest poster, simply forgot to link it. You know what, I have an idea.

You really don't want them to stroke out during this term. That would just hand their seats to bright-eyed young cultists for the next half-century.

First of all, it's not a cult, it's a religion.

When are you going to get on board rather than standing in the way of divinity?

Actual Trump supporters are saying he is God, even here, on your forums. So it's a religion now. Trump support is a religion.

Second of all, have you seen the poll where 86% of all Americans approved of Trump's speech? Perhaps you missed this post in this fast-moving thread, but you clearly take this topic seriously. 86% of Americans seems high to me, in fact I would call it unbelievable, and Aphelios did not cite anything remotely like a source. Maybe you saw it? Surely this good-faith, genuine poster merely forgot to mention it. Have you seen one? Have you seen anything close? I mean, he must be a good-faith genuine honest poster, as shown by those quoted posts just now, right?

So of course the poll must exist. It must. He's a genuine, good-faith honest poster, after all. He wouldn't, you know, intentionally post something ridiculously false with the sole intent to draw responses, goodnees gracious harumph harumph no!

So the poll must exist. Let's see it.

[PhaelixWW]

The entire whining and whinging about the economy completely vanished on the 6th of November. Paying 5 dollars for a dozen eggs has went from "How will I feed my kids?" to "It's patriotic to pay 12 dollars for eggs, also if you want Medicaid or food stamps go get a job...and the minimum wage stays at 7.5, and those damn kids should get jobs if they want eggs for breakfast!"

Those are different people.

The, like, 5% of people who voted for Trump because they blamed Biden and Democrats for the economy but otherwise wouldn't have voted for Trump are not the same people who are saying those things. Those quotes are coming from the 30-40% who are too neck-deep in the cult to have a rational thought.

[Nymrohd]

I have to ask, what are the chances that people in the US would ever again protest on a scale similar to how they did against the Vietnam war? Cause imo you should be on the streets.

[Breccia]

I have to ask, what are the chances that people in the US would ever again protest on a scale similar to how they did against the Vietnam war? Cause imo you should be on the streets.

I think the protests will be localized. Trump can't run again, but Senators and Reps do. Already they're feeling the blowback to the point of abandoning town halls in exchange for moderated Zoom calls.