Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Tech614]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/t...don-trump.html

I hope this effort succeeds. SBF obviously belongs in prison but if he gets a pardon it exposes the Trump movement for what it has always been. A corrupt regime

Oh Trump being corrupt makes you mad? But not him being openly transphobic and making lives of trans people worse?

[Edge-]

but if he gets a pardon it exposes

literally nothing that hasn't been exposed already

donald pardoned folks that assaulted law enforcement, and his doj went on to argue that pardon should extend to illegal weapons charges and more.

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Oh Trump being corrupt makes you mad? But not him being openly transphobic and making lives of trans people worse?

that's a feature, not a bug, for ned.

[Polgara]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/t...don-trump.html

I hope this effort succeeds. SBF obviously belongs in prison but if he gets a pardon it exposes the Trump movement for what it has always been. A corrupt regime

Why the fuck do you want this massive grifter back on the streets? Can we not cheer for having MORE criminals just unleashed and cheering it on?

[Tech614]

Why the fuck do you want this massive grifter back on the streets? Can we not cheer for having MORE dangerous criminals just unleashed and cheering it on?

Yea man cause it will prove Trump is corrupt!

For you know, the like 500th time or something but this time people will listen and realize it!

[Edge-]

Why the fuck do you want this massive grifter back on the streets? Can we not cheer for having MORE dangerous criminals just unleashed and cheering it on?

in all fairness he's not exactly "dangerous". just one of the biggest liars and thieves to actually see penalties for lying and theivery. he wishes he could have gotten away with that level of fraud like rick scott of florida, did.

[gondrin]

So, this happened today. The EPA is reversing the firing of dozens of environmental justice workers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...stice-workers/

[Edge-]

So, this happened today. The EPA is reversing the firing of dozens of environmental justice workers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...stice-workers/

I hope DOGE is keeping track of how much money is being wasted on illegally firing employees, fighting in the courts, and then needing to re-hire them.

[Polgara]

in all fairness he's not exactly "dangerous". just one of the biggest liars and thieves to actually see penalties for lying and theivery. he wishes he could have gotten away with that level of fraud like rick scott of florida, did.

That's fair; I used an emotional adjective there, maybe sleezy, scammy slimeballs that wouldn't look out of place in a Jim Henson "Muppets commit tax evasion" that I don't process very well, will amend my post.

[Breccia]

The EPA is reversing the firing of dozens of environmental justice workers.

You know, I wonder how many of the "just kidding, you're not fired" workers had the backbone to say "Or what?" I dunno, that's probably asking too much of them (they have bills to pay), but it would be interesting if the large number of people that it turned out were necessary all said "I’m not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to leave you wallowing in the mess you've made. You're screwed, thank you, bye."

[Endus]

Trans athletes are not the same as trans people. If you confuse the two you do so at the detriment of trans rights in general.

They are trans people. What are you talking about?

Unfortunately moderation rules are strict around this issue so I cant comment the ways in which they are different.

"I can't speak my mind on this without being so overtly hateful and bigoted it will earn me an infraction" is just an admission you don't have an actual argument that any reasonable person would ever consider. There's no difference. You're just pushing empty, baseless bigotry.

But the perception of unfairness is not unfounded. I have no issues with trans people or anything like that.

Your posts thus far state very strongly otherwise. This shit's no different than "I like black people, but they should stick to the Negro Leagues where they belong rather than playing with/against proper white folks." Same level of open bigotry and naked hatred.

If you people had actual arguments, they wouldn't fall under the classification of "hate speech". And they inevitably do. You don't have arguments. You just have a deep desire to inflict harm upon innocents and exclude them from society. Everything else you bring is made-up wackadoodle shit like "bumps on heads make black people less smart than whites" or that level nonsense.

And yes, everything people bring up to attack trans athletes is phrenology-level stupid, when it comes to biology or science. None of your claims are based on facts or science.

[gondrin]

Well, speaking of backtracking, remember how the Governor of Maine basically challenged Trump? Well, some time later, Trump's administration in charge of the SSA decided to cancel a contract for Maine that allowed parents in the state to apply for Social Security numbers for their newborns by simply checking a box on a form at the hospital.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wel...dce58fa8&ei=18

[Kathandira]

Trans athletes are not the same as trans people. If you confuse the two you do so at the detriment of trans rights in general. Unfortunately moderation rules are strict around this issue so I cant comment the ways in which they are different. But the perception of unfairness is not unfounded. I have no issues with trans people or anything like that. The Trump administration forbiding trans people from serving in the military is a disgrace. But suffice to say even Gavin Newsom acknowledges the unfairness on the issue, I wont comment further on this bc moderation is strict.

Can trust a trans man to be as strong and able as cis men on the battlefield, but not in the swimming pool?

[Breccia]

The DOW Jones swung wildly today, going from 300 down to 200 up-

"Yeah! MAGA!"

-ending its worst week in 2 years. Yes, including the upswing.

"Well the S&P did better!"

It did, "worst week since September" is objectively better than "worst week in two years" in the same way as being kicked in the balls is better than having broken ribs.

"What did Trump do to reverse things?"

Nothing. The upswing happened during/after Powell's speech in which he said

Despite elevated levels of uncertainty, the US economy continues to be in a good place. Sentiment readings have not been a good predictor of consumption growth in recent years.

So, just to be clear, this guy is so trusted that (a) he had an event hosted by famously good at economics University of Chicago that (b) the world was watching, and (c) him simply saying "It's not as bad as Trump makes it look" undid the damage of the weak-ass job report.

Trump wants him fired.

"But Trump has said many times he won't fire Powell!"

First of all, why would you believe anything Trump says? Second of all, he said that because he can't fire Powell. He would rather seem like he's doing Powell a favor than admit something is out of his legal authority, so, he's saying "I won't do it, even though you make many moves I would never do" to which Powell responded "Yeah, that's because I know what I'm doing, asshole."

If Powell hadn't said anything, the DOW Jones could have had the worst week since Trump's COVID drops.

[Edge-]

Well, speaking of backtracking, remember how the Governor of Maine basically challenged Trump? Well, some time later, Trump's administration in charge of the SSA decided to cancel a contract for Maine that allowed parents in the state to apply for Social Security numbers for their newborns by simply checking a box on a form at the hospital.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wel...dce58fa8&ei=18

Honestly, enough bad things can't happen to Donald and these people.

Seriously. Fuck these people so much. Just spiteful, hateful people. I do hope they all have sudden, unexplained medical emergencies.

[gondrin]

Honestly, enough bad things can't happen to Donald and these people.

Seriously. Fuck these people so much. Just spiteful, hateful people. I do hope they all have sudden, unexplained medical emergencies.

They did backtrack on it a day later but the fact that possibly thousands of people had to actively go to an office instead of dealing with it digitally like every other state because of the vindictiveness of one or more people tells me these people need to be booed in daily life. And for the rest of their lives.

[Breccia]

Ah, man, I do love getting free points.

So Trump went on FOX News *ding* and had this exchange:

FOX Business host Maria Bartiromo: Can you give us a sense of whether or not we're going to get clarity for the business community?

Trump: Well I think so, but you know the tariffs could go up as time goes by and they may go up and I don't know if its predictability—

Bartiromo: So that's not clarity.

Trump: No I think that they say that; it sounds good to say. For years the big globalists have been ripping off the United States, they've been taking money from the United States. All we're doing is getting some of it back.

That's...still not clarity. Not only did FOX News ask Trump to his fat orange face for some kind of reason or explanation, and not only did he refuse to give one, but he didn't understand the question.

The person who claimed to have the most transparent administration ever...does not know what clarity means.

[Rasulis]

The DOW Jones swung wildly today, going from 300 down to 200 up-

"Yeah! MAGA!"

-ending its worst week in 2 years. Yes, including the upswing.

"Well the S&P did better!"

It did, "worst week since September" is objectively better than "worst week in two years" in the same way as being kicked in the balls is better than having broken ribs.

"What did Trump do to reverse things?"

Nothing. The upswing happened during/after Powell's speech in which he said



So, just to be clear, this guy is so trusted that (a) he had an event hosted by famously good at economics University of Chicago that (b) the world was watching, and (c) him simply saying "It's not as bad as Trump makes it look" undid the damage of the weak-ass job report.

Trump wants him fired.

"But Trump has said many times he won't fire Powell!"

First of all, why would you believe anything Trump says? Second of all, he said that because he can't fire Powell. He would rather seem like he's doing Powell a favor than admit something is out of his legal authority, so, he's saying "I won't do it, even though you make many moves I would never do" to which Powell responded "Yeah, that's because I know what I'm doing, asshole."

If Powell hadn't said anything, the DOW Jones could have had the worst week since Trump's COVID drops.

If you are curious where the fund leaving US stock market went to, take a look at China's and EU's markets.

Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent, and Xiaomi doubled their combined market cap to $1.6 trillion this year. Meanwhile, Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, and Tesla lost $3 trillion.

The German DAX index has risen nearly 17% so far this year. France’s CAC 40 has gained 11.5% and Britain’s FTSE 100 has advanced nearly 9%. Meanwhile, the S&P 500 is up less than 1% since the start of the year. The last time this happened, it was the year 2000.

[Teriz]

Ah, man, I do love getting free points.

So Trump went on FOX News *ding* and had this exchange:

FOX Business host Maria Bartiromo: Can you give us a sense of whether or not we're going to get clarity for the business community?

Trump: Well I think so, but you know the tariffs could go up as time goes by and they may go up and I don't know if its predictability—

Bartiromo: So that's not clarity.

Trump: No I think that they say that; it sounds good to say. For years the big globalists have been ripping off the United States, they've been taking money from the United States. All we're doing is getting some of it back.

That's...still not clarity. Not only did FOX News ask Trump to his fat orange face for some kind of reason or explanation, and not only did he refuse to give one, but he didn't understand the question.

The person who claimed to have the most transparent administration ever...does not know what clarity means.

Our economy is going to be in the dumps by summer. We're probably going to be in dystopia by 2028.

Guess I better go buy a gun.....

[Edge-]

The Republican assault on higher education continues.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/07/nx-s1...lion-cancelled

The Trump administration says it has canceled $400 million in federal grants and contracts to Columbia University over what it described as the school's failure to police antisemitism on campus.

The cancellation was announced Friday in a joint statement from the Department of Justice, Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Education and the U.S. General Services Administration. The decision was carried out, the statement said, "due to the school's continued inaction in the face of persistent harassment of Jewish students."

It's unclear what programs at the school may be affected by the cancellation. The statement said the funding pullback was "the first round of action" and that "additional cancellations are expected to follow." The government also said Columbia holds more than $5 billion in federal grant commitments.

Gotta keep Americans from getting a higher education because that teaches them critical thinking skills.

[Tech614]

The Republican assault on higher education continues.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/07/nx-s1...lion-cancelled



Gotta keep Americans from getting a higher education because that teaches them critical thinking skills.

We're speedrunning China becoming the leader in every research field by taking that money away from our top universities. Absolute clown shit.