Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PhaelixWW]

We can add "sarcasm" to the long, long list of things Donald doesn't understand.

I'll just remove it from the much more manageable list of things he does.

[gondrin]

This is what I mean when you said you guys are too obsessed with the legal details. "That is illegal!" "This isn't illegal and can't be punished!"

We've already had Palestinian protestors thrown in jail without charges being issued, and one is being deported and having his legal residency revoked. Nobody is stopping Trump from doing things that aren't legal for him to do. Nobody is holding him accountable. Sure, a judge may declare certain actions illegal or unconstitutional, but have you heard ANY follow up to those rulings? Doubt it, since it's the executive that has to implement/follow those rulings.

The rule of law is gone as we once knew it. If you're not forming local communities to help rely on each other in the impending national crisis, you'll be left alone in the rain of injustice.

Thing to differentiate between what is going on at the Tesla dealerships and the protesters is the Tesla dealerships are actively being vandalized. That is a crime the last time I checked. Whether federal or state level charges are put out there, that is what is being discussed. However, those who are doing it are actively committing a crime and would be charged as such.

The protesters have committed no such crime and is a far worse issue and should be a bigger outrage than a bunch of Tesla dealerships being vandalized and those who vandalize them going to jail for committing said crime.

[Bwgmon]

We can add "sarcasm" to the long, long list of things Donald doesn't understand.

Inching ever closer to him sincerely pulling a Kung Pow: Enter the Fist and going "I'm leading the country wrong, as a joke."

[ringpriest]

Oh, for what federal crime? She did say what federal crime was involved, right? Because, otherwise, no she isn't.

She means the Tesla dealership masquerading as the "government of the United States" will.

[Mayhem]

Oh, for what federal crime? She did say what federal crime was involved, right? Because, otherwise, no she isn't.

Is it a federal crime to trespass on White House grounds? Or what other federal Tesla dealership was she talking about?

[Draco-Onis]

Is it a federal crime to trespass on White House grounds? Or what other federal Tesla dealership was she talking about?

They plan on charging anyone vandalizing a Tesla as a "domestic terrorist" so that president Musk's cars start selling again. Apparently harming a Tesla is worse than trying to overthrow the US government.

[Poopymonster]

They plan on charging anyone vandalizing a Tesla as a "domestic terrorist" so that president Musk's cars start selling again. Apparently harming a Tesla is worse than trying to overthrow the US government.

If anything, I've been taught that it was just a tour full of peace and love at Tesla dealerships.
How can they be against love?

[Mayhem]

They plan on charging anyone vandalizing a Tesla as a "domestic terrorist" so that president Musk's cars start selling again. Apparently harming a Tesla is worse than trying to overthrow the US government.

Tesla Model VolXwagen, every real American patriot needs to own one, by law.

[Sunseeker]

They plan on charging anyone vandalizing a Tesla as a "domestic terrorist" so that president Musk's cars start selling again. Apparently harming a Tesla is worse than trying to overthrow the US government.

I would think even the threat of doing so would turn people off to even visiting a Tesla dealership. I mean imagine some rando goes there, decides he doesnt really like them, and goes over the Rivian dealer, just to get the FBI called on him for not buying a Tesla.

[Draco-Onis]

Tesla Model VolXwagen, every real American patriot needs to own one, by law.

Don't give them ideas, several red states are now ordering Teslas but it's a drop in the ocean when the boycott is pretty much worldwide. China is the only good market but margins are razor thin there due to competition.

[Mayhem]

Don't give them ideas, several red states are now ordering Teslas but it's a drop in the ocean when the boycott is pretty much worldwide. China is the only good market but margins are razor thin there due to competition.

I like my Nazis easy identifiable.

[Draco-Onis]

I like my Nazis easy identifiable.

Frankly I do not understand the moaning and bitching from Musk he is looting the treasury and is probably going to force all payments to go through his X platforms not to mention other stolen government contracts to the biggest welfare queen in history.

[Mayhem]

Frankly I do not understand the moaning and bitching from Musk he is looting the treasury and is probably going to force all payments to go through his X platforms not to mention other stolen government contracts to the biggest welfare queen in history.

Probably because he convinced himself, thanks to a few drug-induced all-nighters, that he is actually what the world and humanity needs to survive and he is pissed that he is the only one that sees it, well he and the ones that lick him clean daily.

[Gorsameth]

Musk 100% has a messiah complex

[Poopymonster]

Frankly I do not understand the moaning and bitching from Musk he is looting the treasury and is probably going to force all payments to go through his X platforms not to mention other stolen government contracts to the biggest welfare queen in history.

As I've said before, money is like pretty or lucky.
Some people believe you can't have too much of it.

[Makabreska]

Musk 100% has a messiah complex

He is supposed to bring us to the Primised Land (Mars), after all.

[Breccia]

The market value of the S&P 500 at its Feb. 19 peak was $52.06 trillion, according to FactSet. Thursday’s decline put the index’s market value down to $46.78 trillion.

That makes for a total loss of about $5.28 trillion in about three weeks.

Yeah, the S&P alone lost $5 trillion. Oddly enough, that's the amount Trump wants to give to the rich with additional tax breaks, above and beyond the tax cut for the rich which is already permanent for them.

The decline has come in the shadow of Trump’s burgeoning trade war with several of the United States’ major trading partners, with headlines about tariffs at times seeming to drive market moves. There have also been signs of slowing economic growth, with weak consumer sentiment surveys and tepid outlooks from retailers like Walmart.

“Our interactions with clients indicate that the mood music is changing. While many see recession talk as premature, concerns about erratic policy from the new administration abound, with the ‘uncertainty tax’ hitting growth expectations,” Barclays strategist Emmanuel Cau said in a note to clients.

Yep. There are multiple factors, there always are, but Trump is routinely cited as the leading cause by pretty much everyone.

Consumer confidence plunges to 29-month low as economic uncertainty grows

Consumer sentiment in the U.S. fell for the third consecutive month in March, now down 22% from December 2024 before President Donald Trump took office, a new survey found.

The University of Michigan survey showed consumer sentiment fell to 57.9 this month, a 29-month low. The index showed participants' expectations for the future of their personal finances and the stock market had deteriorated. It also showed that Americans are expecting inflation to get worse, not better, during a time when many are worried tariffs will raise prices at the checkout aisle.

I'm pretty sure Michigan rushed that study out before Ontario turned its lights off :P

S&P 500 correction in six charts

Obviously I'm not going to show all six charts here. But I will quote this:

Stock market corrections are fairly common, with the S&P 500 logging a correction 56 times since 1929, according to a Reuters analysis of data from Yardeni Research.

If they were spread out evenly, that's one correction every 20.35 months. Near as I can tell, it happened to Biden twice, one in Feb 2021 and one in 2023. Seems about right on average. It took Biden 13 months to see his first correction. Trump did it in under two months.

The Motley Fool is warning that the NASDAQ is about there as well, pointing out that this happened to Biden only once and Trump twice his first term (and one was the COVID crash). In other words, Trump is speedrunning that even faster.

For fun, I'll add this: Stock market is not pricing in the good things Trump is doing *ding*

You can smell the desperation flowing off that headline.

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He is supposed to bring us to the Primised Land (Mars), after all.

Musk's announcement about putting a humanoid on Mars by the end of the year is childish desperation. He needs literally anything to distract the people from his failed presidency. Tesla is leading the charge HARDEE HAR HAR the stock market falling, so much that Tesla warns that Trump's trade war could hurt U.S. automakers.

Incidentally, Musk is also likely fuming that Trump called him a DEI hire, very likely by accident.

To hear President Trump and some of his closest supporters tell it, South Africa is a terrible place for white people. They face discrimination, are sidelined from jobs and live under the constant threat of violence or having their land stolen by a corrupt, Black-led government that has left the country in disarray.

The data tell a different story. Although white people make up 7 percent of the country’s population, they own at least half of South Africa’s land. Police statistics do not show that they are any more vulnerable to violent crime than other people. And white South Africans are far better off than Black people on virtually every marker of the economic scale.

Trump's claims that white people in South Africa are pushed down and aside is, well, exactly what the DEI and many other American changes were all about. But, yeah, he just called Elon Musk a disadvantaged minority who needs help. Musk likely is smart enough to have caught this, Trump is not.

[Teriz]

As a small business owner dependent on imports, I'm sick of winning.

[Breccia]

As a small business owner dependent on imports, I'm sick of winning.

Then I apologize for linking this.

Economic alarm bells are ringing everywhere

First, the good news: There is no solid evidence right now that the economy is in recession, or even particularly close to it.

The bad news is that warning bells of what is to come are ringing every which way.

This Axios article doesn't just cite the same Michigan study I already mentioned, but also calls out Trump's tariffs ping-pong and firing half the federal government. Honestly, this article basically summarizes the last 20 or so things I referenced, and goes on to say "any one of these individually isn't proof of anything, but all together is bad news".

Basically, roll a die once, it comes up six, it proves nothing. Roll a die 20 times, it comes up six 17 times, the die is loaded. And even FOX News and Trump are publicly saying "expect more sixes to be rolled" as the economy is about to crap out.

The good news lately — on solid Q4 GDP growth, for example — has come from data sources that are backward-looking.

Thanks, Biden.

[Xath]

https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-03...rport-detained

We are now torturing green card holders holy fuck