Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Xath]

Very likely. DOGE mas firing started February 14. Canada and Mexico tariffs started March 4. The anticipation is the numbers will be reflected in the March reports.

Washington DC is already in a mild recession from all the layoffs. Talking about Company Town, Washington DC is a perfect example of a single industry company town.

DC is arguably the only successful company town well it was.

[Ivanstone]

Sure, I'll believe it when Democrats break 30% approval for starters.

Congress hasn’t had good approval ratings in a long time. If the Dems are at 29% I wonder what’s dragging the average down? Oh right congressional GOP.

[Rasulis]

DC is arguably the only successful company town well it was.

DC housing market crashed from around 70 pre-Trump down to 38. DC is learning something that New Yorkers and the Scottish learned a long time ago. It sucks to have Trump as your neighbor.



At least DC is not as bad as Palm Beach where Mar-a-lago is located.

[PhaelixWW]

You are incorrect. Prices are falling.

Sure, I'll believe it when Democrats break 30% approval for starters.

Still ignoring that the reason Democrat politicians have low favorability with Democrat voters is because they're not hammering back at Trump and the GoP enough?

[Endus]

Congress hasn’t had good approval ratings in a long time. If the Dems are at 29% I wonder what’s dragging the average down? Oh right congressional GOP.

It should be noted that one massive spike there is 2001, when Americans lost their godsdamned minds and attacked Iraq over a terrorist attack committed by Saudis and run by an organization whose leader was in Afghanistan. Oh, and the American government lied about the reasons for attacking Iraq and proceeded to try and argue that they should be allowed to torture people. Which is kind of why that spike precipitously dropped as quick as it spiked up.

[Corvus]

It should be noted that one massive spike there is 2001, when Americans lost their godsdamned minds and attacked Iraq over a terrorist attack committed by Saudis and run by an organization whose leader was in Afghanistan. Oh, and the American government lied about the reasons for attacking Iraq and proceeded to try and argue that they should be allowed to torture people. Which is kind of why that spike precipitously dropped as quick as it spiked up.

The invasion of Iraq was in 2003 - 2001 was the invasion of Afghanistan.

[PhaelixWW]

It should be noted that one massive spike there is 2001, when Americans lost their godsdamned minds...

I think 9/11 and its "rally around the flag" reaction can be described in far more accurate and non-disingenuous terms than "lost their godsdamned minds", thanks.

That's not arguing that each subsequent action was correct, especially given what was discovered afterwards, of course. Plenty of additional, unnecessary harm was done in the eventual fallout from the deadliest terrorist act in history.

But Americans' reaction to 9/11 was a very normal, human reaction to trauma, and humans often make bad decisions in the aftermath of substantial trauma.

[Teriz]

FOR RELEASE AT 8:30 AM EDT, MONDAY, MARCH 17, 2025
ADVANCE MONTHLY SALES FOR RETAIL AND FOOD SERVICES, FEBRUARY 2025
Release Number: CB25-36
March 17, 2025 — The U.S. Census Bureau announced the following advance estimates of U.S. retail and
food services sales for February 2025:

In summary, consumer spent 1.5% less in bars and restaurants in February. While it’s not a huge drop, the decline may be a sign that consumers are feeling a bit more cautious about their discretionary spending.

And to top it off, you got the treasury secretary trying to argue how recessions and depressions are actually good things.

We're so cooked.

[Xath]

It should be noted that one massive spike there is 2001, when Americans lost their godsdamned minds and attacked Iraq over a terrorist attack committed by Saudis and run by an organization whose leader was in Afghanistan. Oh, and the American government lied about the reasons for attacking Iraq and proceeded to try and argue that they should be allowed to torture people. Which is kind of why that spike precipitously dropped as quick as it spiked up.

Which is why I fully expect a terrorist attack in the leadup to the midterms either let through purposefully or false flagged assuming we still have those.

[Breccia]

After failing to fulfill his promise his first term, with much pompous circumstance, Trump finally opens the JFK files.

"What do they say?"

That Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

"...but that's what we'd been told!"

Yes.

"But...they were lying to us!"

Well, then so's Trump. He released nothing but evidence backing that conclusion. Makes you wonder why he bothered making a big deal about it in the first place. Oh, right. Because everything he's doing is failing spectacularly.

[Edge-]

After failing to fulfill his promise his first term, with much pompous circumstance, Trump finally opens the JFK files.

"What do they say?"

That Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

"...but that's what we'd been told!"

Yes.

"But...they were lying to us!"

Well, then so's Trump. He released nothing but evidence backing that conclusion. Makes you wonder why he bothered making a big deal about it in the first place. Oh, right. Because everything he's doing is failing spectacularly.

How boring. It's like Al Capone's vault all over again, but without Geraldo this time.

My former highschool AP US history teacher who did a whole section on the conspiracy theories after we finished up the AP test, if he's still alive (he should be) is probably devastated as how fucking boring this is. Going into all the theories and reasons why it might have been the FBI or the CIA or the mob or Russians was so much more sexy and exciting.

Gotta look for the "official" explanation on the magic bullet, though. I'm curious on that one.

[gondrin]

How boring. It's like Al Capone's vault all over again, but without Geraldo this time.

My former highschool AP US history teacher who did a whole section on the conspiracy theories after we finished up the AP test, if he's still alive (he should be) is probably devastated as how fucking boring this is. Going into all the theories and reasons why it might have been the FBI or the CIA or the mob or Russians was so much more sexy and exciting.

Gotta look for the "official" explanation on the magic bullet, though. I'm curious on that one.

At least with the FBI being a thing, that is because that was how paranoid and insane Hoover was running it at the time. Hoover also had a huge problem with civil rights and actively harassed the likes of MLK Jr so there was always some weight to the FBI being part of the JFK stuff.

However, people don't like to think that important people who tend to get really good protection like the President cannot be killed by 1 person as that would mean that a single person can pretty much take out anyone and everyone regardless of how much they would protect themselves. Biggest problem with that is, for every single president that has actively been assassinated or attempted assassinations, it has always been 1 person. Lincoln, 1 person. Teddy Roosevelt, 1 person. Reagon, 1 person. Donald Trump, 1 person.

As we seen with the CEO of UnitedHealth, all it takes is someone with a bit of planning and just waiting around and then 15 - 20 seconds later, death or attempted death.

As far as the "magic bullet" thing, multiple shots. A person trained in using that type of single action bolt rifle can get off a few shots in the span of a few seconds even with reloading. And Oswald was trained to use one of those weapons.

[DarkTZeratul]

As far as the "magic bullet" thing, multiple shots. A person trained in using that type of single action bolt rifle can get off a few shots in the span of a few seconds even with reloading. And Oswald was trained to use one of those weapons.

Also, bullets bounce. Yes, even after they hit their target. Yes, sometimes inside their target.

[gondrin]

Well, will this be a big April Fools day joke for Breccia or will they move ahead with this?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...4254c27bc&ei=8

Elise Stefanik gets release date from House purgatory

It's been more than four months since President Trump announced Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) as his UN ambassador — and she finally has a date for when she will be free from the House.

Why it matters: House Speaker Mike Johnson's (R-La.) slim margins, GOP detractors like Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Trump's shopping spree in the House to fill top administration positions have left Stefanik behind to ensure the House has the votes to get things done.

Stefanik's nomination is set to move on April 2, two sources familiar told Axios. That will allow time for the winners of the Florida special elections on April 1 to fill the seats vacated by former Reps. Matt Gaetz and Mike Waltz, the new White House national security adviser. Stefanik's confirmation vote will happen immediately after the new members are seated, a Trump official involved in the process told Axios. It's not expected to be a controversial vote.

The two new members will finally give Johnson a little bit more wiggle room in the House and could make him feel better about giving up Stefanik. "Elise will be an outstanding U.S. ambassador to the United Nations," House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) told Axios in a statement. "She has been a true team player, supporting President Trump and the House majority while seamlessly transitioning to her new role at USUN," he added. "Congresswoman Stefanik is a great ally to President Trump, and we look forward to her confirmation as the next ambassador to the United Nations," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told Axios.

- - - Updated - - -

Also, bullets bounce. Yes, even after they hit their target. Yes, sometimes inside their target.

Oh, most definitely. The .22LR is especially known for this and even some use it because it has that ability to cause major internal damage with only one shot.

[Flarelaine]

Breaking News: The EPA plans to eliminate its scientific research arm, firing as many as 1,155 chemists, biologists, toxicologists and other scientists.

This cartoon is from Trump's first term but it's still spot on.

[Muzjhath]

I think 9/11 and its "rally around the flag" reaction can be described in far more accurate and non-disingenuous terms than "lost their godsdamned minds", thanks.

That's not arguing that each subsequent action was correct, especially given what was discovered afterwards, of course. Plenty of additional, unnecessary harm was done in the eventual fallout from the deadliest terrorist act in history.

But Americans' reaction to 9/11 was a very normal, human reaction to trauma, and humans often make bad decisions in the aftermath of substantial trauma.

Considering the patriot act?

I'll agree with losing godsdamned minds

[PhaelixWW]

Considering the patriot act?

I'll agree with losing godsdamned minds

No.

A bad decision in reaction to a substantial trauma is not the same thing as "losing godsdamned minds". It was passed only 45 days after 9/11, yet even back then the American public was widely split on the subject.

It's not like it ever had overwhelming support.

[Masark]

A bad decision in reaction to a substantial trauma is not the same thing as "losing godsdamned minds". It was passed only 45 days after 9/11

And then it was passed again. And again. And again.

[Odinfrost]

MAGA logic is making things jump up 200% in price and then claiming victory when it drops 40% ignoring it's still 160% more expensive than before.

You won't get through to the cultist.

Errr... Not quite how dealing with % works.
Let's assume a start price of 5$ a dozen.
Then it increased by 200%. That's 15$ for a dozen
Then it falls by 40%. That's 9$ for the eggs.
So the increase is 80% compared to the initial price. Which is still huge, but let's try and be accurate

[Belize]

Errr... Not quite how dealing with % works.
Let's assume a start price of 5$ a dozen.
Then it increased by 200%. That's 15$ for a dozen
Then it falls by 40%. That's 9$ for the eggs.
So the increase is 80% compared to the initial price. Which is still huge, but let's try and be accurate

... No, yes, you're right. I ran the numbers but boy am I bad at math.