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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    And then it was passed again. And again. And again.
    Parts of it were reauthorized, decreasing in scope again, and again, and again, but never without a short-term sunset provision.

    And it still never had overwhelming support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Parts of it were reauthorized, decreasing in scope again, and again, and again, but never without a short-term sunset provision.

    And it still never had overwhelming support.
    It absolutely did in the legislative it's first form passed 98-1 in the senate with only Feingold being willing to oppose it. The House more were willing but it was like 350 to 50 or something absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    It absolutely did in the legislative it's first form passed 98-1 in the senate with only Feingold being willing to oppose it. The House more were willing but it was like 350 to 50 or something absurd.
    Public support. We were talking about Americans as a whole, not politicians.

    Look, I'm not here to defend the Patriot Act. But ignoring the very real trauma of 9/11 and its knock-on effects is just ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post


    Congress hasn’t had good approval ratings in a long time. If the Dems are at 29% I wonder what’s dragging the average down? Oh right congressional GOP.
    That graph about Congressional job approval, combined with the knowledge that members of Congress have a 95+% re-election rate shows basically everything that is wrong with voters.

    "Congress is terrible, but my guy is great. Its everyone else that is shit"
    fucking moronic sheep.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    USA is asking Lithuania to sell more eggs

    I wonder how many more countries can be asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    USA is asking Lithuania to sell more eggs

    I wonder how many more countries can be asked.
    Is Trump negotiating the biggest most beautiful trade deals to acquire all these eggs from all these disparate countries?
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Is Trump negotiating the biggest most beautiful trade deals to acquire all these eggs from all these disparate countries?
    Master negotiator Donald J. Trump? Who better to lead the charge on this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    Master negotiator Donald J. Trump? Who better to lead the charge on this!
    It’s a damn crying shame that he can’t just import them from, say, countries literally right next door. And instead has to pay to import fragile and perishable goods from across the globe.

    The rumor come out: does Trump is subsidizing foreign eggs?
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    USA is asking Lithuania to sell more eggs

    I wonder how many more countries can be asked.
    More interesting question how many of those countries are going to be tariffed on April 2nd? he has already announced the EU and "some other countries".

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    So he starts trade wars with everyone then goes begging them for eggs. He's not going to have much luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    So he starts trade wars with everyone then goes begging them for eggs. He's not going to have much luck with that.
    Like shitting on your neigbor's doormat, then asking them for a cup of sugar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    So he starts trade wars with everyone then goes begging them for eggs. He's not going to have much luck with that.
    Big energy of “piss off/defraud all of the reputable dealers/big companies so they don’t want to work with you, go seeking out small ones that are easier to exploit when you actually need something” from his real estate days
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    Its actually insane and inhumane that the Trump admin literally grabbed three immigrants and deported them to a Salvadorian prison to do forced labour. They are not Salvadorian, they are Venezuelan and are now being treated worse than criminals bc at least criminals get a trial and have some rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Its actually insane and inhumane that the Trump admin literally grabbed three immigrants and deported them to a Salvadorian prison to do forced labour. They are not Salvadorian, they are Venezuelan and are now being treated worse than criminals bc at least criminals get a trial and have some rights
    Actual r/conservative post from just minutes ago.

    "Now they want us to wait for a crime before arresting people."
    “There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Its actually insane and inhumane that the Trump admin literally grabbed three immigrants and deported them to a Salvadorian prison to do forced labour. They are not Salvadorian, they are Venezuelan and are now being treated worse than criminals bc at least criminals get a trial and have some rights
    Seems the slave trade is back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    Actual r/conservative post from just minutes ago.

    "Now they want us to wait for a crime before arresting people."
    Not that it isn't representative of Conservatives, but that poster's name follows the bot naming scheme of adjective -noun-number that 90% of bots on Reddit follow.

    There's a lot of agitprop in conservative circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Not that it isn't representative of Conservatives, but that poster's name follows the bot naming scheme of adjective -noun-number that 90% of bots on Reddit follow.

    There's a lot of agitprop in conservative circles.
    tbh I wouldn't know because my name there is also randomly generated and similarly weird.
    “There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    .... that poster's name follows the bot naming scheme of adjective -noun-number that 90% of bots on Reddit follow.
    For several years now reddit has been creating random usernames, it's not an indication of it being a bot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Volatilis View Post
    Russia were provoked by the US backed UN letting Ukraine join nato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    tbh I wouldn't know because my name there is also randomly generated and similarly weird.
    Yeah, not saying it's 100% a bot, but clicking through their profile it all lines up, the naming / post types being generally low engagement one line sentences / created just before the election in 2020 / posts primarily the same content in the Conservative subs.

    As I said, a non-zero amount of conseratives believe that thoughtcrimes are real and we should deport everyone that's brown BUT, this one reeks of stirring shit up. We see the occasional similar types of posts here too from new accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    Actual r/conservative post from just minutes ago.

    "Now they want us to wait for a crime before arresting people."
    That post is unhinged. Deport people that are immigrating illegally, sure. Dont send them to another country (these are venezuelan immigrants not from el Salvador) and more importantly, DONT PUT THEM INTO FOREIGN PRISONS THAT ARE RUN BY DICTATORS TO PERFORM FORCED LABOUR WITHOUT A TRIAL AT LEAST!

    Like the Trump admin doesnt know if these people are actual gang members, for all we know they are rando illegal immigrants that got deported to a country they know nothing about, got sent into a prison run by a dictator that doesnt respect their rights

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