Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[fwc577]

The thing is, at least in my country, a Tesla is virtue signalling status of "new richness", it always was. That or Uber Mafia. So, as I said at least here, it's so easy hurt Temu Stark where it hurts the more, his pocket.

I mean, in America it is a status symbol of new money as well. It's the only far really where you can fuck an OnlyFans prostitute on camera while the car drives on auto pilot. The people doing that type of shit are 100% new money, lol

[Kaleredar]

The thing is, at least in my country, a Tesla is virtue signalling status of "new richness", it always was. That or Uber Mafia. So, as I said at least here, it's so easy hurt Temu Stark where it hurts the more, his pocket.

Again, we can criticize people for being personally dickweeds for any number of reasons but randomly targeting vehicles seems… unproductive. Because it seems unrelated to the message of “musk is bad, and we’re hitting him where it hurts.” If we’re just targeting people we think are dickweeds based on their vehicles we could be slapping those stickers on any truck with truck nuts or any lifted jeep. You might be right more times than you’re not, even, but… what, actually, is changing?

As for the Teslas they already paid for their car so to hurt Musk where it hurts… and by that I mean matters… you gotta hit the source and him directly. Impact Tesla’s bottom line. Like I said, great if they kick him off, but either way his income is being impacted directly. And uber-wealthy people hate the prospect of being even slightly less uber-wealthy.

[Xath]

No, but they'll probably succeed in turning Teslas into a virtue signalling status symbol. Elon's been partially successful in convincing a bunch of idiots with more money than sense that the Cybertruck is a legit thing that's super cool; and if he can market those stupid things to people, then the actual cars might not be a tough sell.

Whether or not this market shift is enough to make up for the loss of revenue alienating literally everyone else? Remains to be seen, but I'm leaning on 'No'.

Except the Cybertruck literally has doors falling off. Many maga people are idiots but trucks are rather important for their work and doors falling off will just lead to rage. In short Tesla is fucked Musk will unfortunately likely be fine he will transfer vaporware stock into government contracts putting starlink in for the FAA for example (which is fucking terrifying) and SpaceX etc.

[NED funded]

Musk is to ketamine brained to do cool stuff anymore. Even before the ketamine Tesla made good cars but it never figured out the scaling part, the model 3 was a genuine effort to actually compete with the giant auto makers but nothing has come out of it since.

[For_The_Horde]

Again, we can criticize people for being personally dickweeds for any number of reasons but randomly targeting vehicles seems… unproductive. Because it seems unrelated to the message of “musk is bad, and we’re hitting him where it hurts.” If we’re just targeting people we think are dickweeds based on their vehicles we could be slapping those stickers on any truck with truck nuts or any lifted jeep. You might be right more times than you’re not, even, but… what, actually, is changing?

As for the Teslas they already paid for their car so to hurt Musk where it hurts… and by that I mean matters… you gotta hit the source and him directly. Impact Tesla’s bottom line. Like I said, great if they kick him off, but either way his income is being impacted directly. And uber-wealthy people hate the prospect of being even slightly less uber-wealthy.

Productive no, but cathartic yes. And certainly less unproductive (aka harmful) than actually vandalizing a vehicle. People with Tesla money and a clear video of you touching their car can go after you legally. But its just a waste of time if its over a sticker since there's absolutely no damages. The only thing you've hurt is their feelings. Best to just get it out of your system now anyways before touching a Tesla becomes an instant terrorism charge due to executive order. Only a matter of time.

[Poopymonster]

Productive no, but cathartic yes. And certainly less unproductive (aka harmful) than actually vandalizing a vehicle. People with Tesla money and a clear video of you touching their car can go after you legally. But its just a waste of time if its over a sticker since there's absolutely no damages. The only thing you've hurt is their feelings. Best to just get it out of your system now anyways before touching a Tesla becomes an instant terrorism charge due to executive order. Only a matter of time.

They'll take a minor charge, then claim it's a hate crime and that warrants excessive punishment since it's against an South African.

[Kaleredar]

Productive no, but cathartic yes. And certainly less unproductive (aka harmful) than actually vandalizing a vehicle. People with Tesla money and a clear video of you touching their car can go after you legally. But its just a waste of time if its over a sticker since there's absolutely no damages. The only thing you've hurt is their feelings. Best to just get it out of your system now anyways before touching a Tesla becomes an instant terrorism charge due to executive order. Only a matter of time.

I mean personally I think little trump stickers left at exorbitantly priced egg shelves in grocery stores with him saying “I did that” would be more “productive.”

And leaving little swastika stickers around rides the fine line between “I’m labeling you a Nazi” and “I’m leaving swastikas around because I like them.” A Jewish person who owns a tesla but finds that some random stranger left a swastika on their property might not just think someone is trying to “hurt their feelings.”

[Doomcookie]

Tesla has zero chance whatsoever against BYD in China is torching itself in Europe and with US Liberals. So basically they have to now rely on republican buyers while their ceo's best bud is downplaying climate change. In short they are fucked.

Tesla will be releasing their quarterly sales numbers in a couple weeks. We have a pretty good idea how bad things are in the EU and China. But, so far, we don't have accurate numbers for the United States. Even if sales are down as low as 5% domestically, that's a huge problem. If it's more than 10%, you will be seeing executives calling for him to either step down, or quite his little fascist pet project in DC.

[Breccia]

Judge bars Musk’s DOGE team from Social Security records in scathing ruling

You can find the ruling here. The punch line is "you don't need it".

If Trump's case was any more unglued, it would be a Tesla truck.

[NED funded]

The judge that ruled on the Venezuelan immigrants case that the government violated the TRO is giving the Trump multiple offramps to avoid ruling the government in contempt. And the government is refusing to take any of them lol. I hate that the judge is being so lenient but I get. Trump obviously violated the TRO but you need to give them as much opportunities as possible to prove otherwise. You dont want a repeat of the previous supreme court

[Xath]

They are trying so hard to stop him from crossing the Rubicon as much as I hate to say it that's a good thing. People need to be hurting before he does it or the idiots will still be massively defending him.

[Rasulis]

Florida Everglades Wildfire Containment As Fire Explodes to 22,000 Acres

Texas wildfire prompts evacuations as Arkansas and Florida also battle blazes

Arkansas Forestry Division: 96 wildfires reported Wednesday are contained; crews standing by for possible Thursday fires

Oklahoma County declares disaster emergency amid wildfires, continued risk

In case people are not aware, fire season started early this year. Meanwhile USFS is shorthanded and way behind. The agency has just now announced the hiring of temporary fire positions for 2025 fire season.

[Breccia]

In case people are not aware, fire season started early this year.

Personal anecdote, but I have a good friend in NC. No, the debris is not cleaned up from the hurricane. Yes, it will catch fire. Repeatedly.

[Rasulis]

Personal anecdote, but I have a good friend in NC. No, the debris is not cleaned up from the hurricane. Yes, it will catch fire. Repeatedly.

NC definitely have ways to go. Helene destroyed around 800 private roads and bridges which are sole access to many of the mountain communities there. Since they are private, they are not covered by the Transportation Department. Those communities need to get loans from FEMA and the State. I read that the state had just opened the website to apply for those loans a week ago. Not sure about FEMA.

Another US economy warning sign.

A growing number of Americans are working multiple jobs, with new federal data showing that approximately 8.9 million people now hold a second job.

This marks the highest rate since April 2009, during the Great Recession.

At least 5 percent of the American workforce is now balancing multiple jobs, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). While inflation has slowed in recent months, financial pressures continue to drive workers toward additional employment.

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Pro-Trump Republican slams president’s closure of local Social Security office

It's all fun and games when other people are getting hammered. When it hits close to home, suddenly the pain is real.

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The chain reaction leading from the public sector to the private sector is starting.

"Federal represented approximately 8% of our global revenue and 16% of our Americas revenue in FY 2024. As you know, the new administration has a clear goal to run the federal government more efficiently. During this process, many new procurement actions have slowed, which is negatively impacting our sales and revenue," chief executive Julie Spellman Sweet said in the Thursday call to several Wall Street analysts.

Accenture is among the first of the U.S. corporate giants to get hit by the Trump administration's so-called Department of Government Efficiency, an effort headed by billionaire Elon Musk to downsize federal agencies and consolidate their office spaces.

Sweet said that Accenture's Federal Services was also affected by guidance from the U.S. General Services Administration to all federal agencies to review their contracts with the top 10 highest paid consulting firms contracting with the U.S. government, and then end contracts that are not considered mission-critical to relevant agencies.

"While we continue to believe our work for federal clients is mission-critical, we anticipate ongoing uncertainty as the government's priorities evolve and these assessments unfold," Sweet said.

"We are seeing an elevated level of what was already a significant uncertainty in the global economic and geopolitical environment, marking a shift from our first quarter FY 2025 earnings report in December," Sweet added. "At the same time, we believe the fundamentals of our industry remain strong."

Accenture shares have plunged 22.9% over the past month, bringing the stock down nearly 14.5% year to date.

Shares of consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton slipped 8.1% on Thursday in sympathy.

No mention of layoffs. Yet. I am sure that will follow.

[tehdang]

As I see Teslas now, each Tesla on the street it's new place for a swastica to be drawn. Fuck the Tesla owners, they have money for other new EVs.

Just keep in mind that drawing swatikas on electric vehicles, as lawbreaking protest, has the chance to backfire massively. Like, "the libs are so fucked in the head after losing an election that they have to draw Nazi imagery on cars to express their rage."

Or the related phenomenon: that of putting a "Bought before Elon went crazy" sticker, in hopes that the mob will pass you by.

We just had two janitors at Columbia University file a civil rights lawsuit over being repeatedly forced to clean up dozens and dozens of swastikas on campus, and being attacked and harassed while cleaning it ("Jew-lover" "Zionist"). I'm sure it felt good for the students that did that too. But in retrospect, you're just adopting and using Nazis symbols while destroying property not owned by Musk. That risks massive backlash among the part of the country that isn't the third of Democrats that already align with your hatred.

[DarkTZeratul]

Just keep in mind that drawing swatikas on electric vehicles, as lawbreaking protest, has the chance to backfire massively. Like, "the libs are so fucked in the head after losing an election that they have to draw Nazi imagery on cars to express their rage."

Or the related phenomenon: that of putting a "Bought before Elon went crazy" sticker, in hopes that the mob will pass you by.

We just had two janitors at Columbia University file a civil rights lawsuit over being repeatedly forced to clean up dozens and dozens of swastikas on campus, and being attacked and harassed while cleaning it ("Jew-lover" "Zionist"). I'm sure it felt good for the students that did that too. But in retrospect, you're just adopting and using Nazis symbols while destroying property not owned by Musk. That risks massive backlash among the part of the country that isn't the third of Democrats that already align with your hatred.

This rings real fucking hollow with all the excuses you've made about Elon Musk very clearly boosting Nazi ideologies and doing Nazi salutes.

[NED funded]

Lutnick telling the American people to buy Tesla stock is more fucked up than just stickering. I wouldnt use the swastika bc its in poor taste

But I enjoy this. I need to try how easy they are to remove.

[Xyonai]

Except the Cybertruck literally has doors falling off. Many maga people are idiots but trucks are rather important for their work and doors falling off will just lead to rage. In short Tesla is fucked Musk will unfortunately likely be fine he will transfer vaporware stock into government contracts putting starlink in for the FAA for example (which is fucking terrifying) and SpaceX etc.

I mean 'Right wing moron' isn't just your hicks from the Mountains or ranch-folk; it's also crypto bros and chronic scammers who actually have means who'd buy this kinda crap to send a message.

Though, with what you said, we do agree on the fact that it's not enough of a market to keep Tesla afloat in the long run. Once again I say; it's a race to see if Musk can seize total control of the Federal government before Shareholders get sick of him.

[gondrin]

So, Trump finally revealed this "Close the Education Department" EO. It doesn't completely close it down but shrinks it down to its mandatory minimum.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...d-communities/

Oh, and there is this. No longer can actual departments do their own procurement for themselves. Only the General Services Administration is going to be allowed to procure anything now for the entire executive branch. I mean, with all of the firings that is going to happen, the GSA most definitely will have fun trying to procure anything of note for the many agencies there are.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...g-procurement/

EDIT: Let me add this. Conservatives along with Trump complain about too much centralized government in our school systems while complaining about test scores and other such metrics being lower than a lot of other countries while trying to dismantle said centralized government. Problem is, those same countries that have those high test scores and high metrics literally have those things because of a, gasp, a centralized standard system made by a centralized body to ensure that everyone is learning the same exact things. Local jurisdictions get some say in how their local communities are taught but for all intents and purposes, it is some centralized government body that makes the standards that they are required to follow.

Oh, and there is this happening now. Mandatory prayer time in Texas schools.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/g...d=BingNewsSerp

[NED funded]

Whats annoying about the Khalil situation is that even if you think that he should be deported the government should be making that case. As is, if it wasnt for his lawyers that were able to quickly notify ICE that he was a lawful resident with a permanent residency then he would have been deported. Right now, he has been arrested for 12 days and all the government has is that he said some unsavoury things they disagree with and that means he is a terrorist and must be deported. Thankfully, he is incredibly priviledged and the media is on his side so he will likely be fine. The venezuelan immigrants, only have the courts to defend them and even then Trump doesnt care. Even if the Trump admin loses how is the government supposed to bring them back if the government of el salvador says no

That is why there are TROs, to stop irreversible harm. Irreversible harm has been inflicted on them.