Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[btlcryct]

school bathrooms are not plumbed for this nor are schools staffed with enough plumbers/have funding to pay for roto-rooter services to support raw milk in schools.

"The states can deal with that." I'm sure will be their approach.

[TACOshake]

I'm surprised President Ketamine didn't demand to call it the F-69

Or the SS-88


Fuck, even typing that to satirize these nazis feels gross.

[Poopymonster]

Or the SS-88


Fuck, even typing that to satirize these nazis feels gross.

Won't the milch be on your gesicht when that is announced on Montag.

[SAY HER NAME]

Why can't they just be sent back to their home countries?

They CAN!! Some of them have asylum claims that need to be sorted out but after that its free reign to deport them. And the entire time they have to spend it either in the country they made the asylum claim from or in a detention center in the US. The ones that have asylum claims arent illegal immigrants if they have followed the process

Trump has deported normal illegal immigrants. Like his entire thing with Colombia, he deported people back to Colombia. Its weird he is sending them to El Salvador, a country they have no connection to.

[Edge-]

illegal immigrants

reminder that being in the US without documentation is itself not a crime.

Trump has deported normal illegal immigrants. Like his entire thing with Colombia, he deported people back to Colombia. Its weird he is sending them to El Salvador, a country they have no connection to.

it's not weird

it's very intentional and pretty nazi of him

[Moralgy]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vot...155720842.html

Can't do a quote cause I'm on mobile but the gist is: man's wife is taken by ICE because of trump, and he doesn't regret his vote while his wife suffers. I wonder how many years of her being in limbo will it take before his cult mind is broken? Bro is enjoying being cucked so hard.

[Edge-]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vot...155720842.html

Can't do a quote cause I'm on mobile but the gist is: man's wife is taken by ICE because of trump, and he doesn't regret his vote while his wife suffers. I wonder how many years of her being in limbo will it take before his cult mind is broken? Bro is enjoying being cucked so hard.

bro isn't getting the sex from his soon to be ex-wife ever again

but it's totally not a cult

they just vote for people who will deport their wife

and then not be mad when their wife is deported

or when their child dies of a preventable illness

but it's not a cult at all

don't say it's a cult

that's insulting to cult members

[Endus]

Why can't they just be sent back to their home countries?

Flying them home costs money.

Putting them in private detention centers makes money, for the prison owners. And, down the line, when they enslave those prisoners (contentiously legal by the 13th Amendment, well within Trump standards of interpretation at least), that'll make money too. Why deport your profit-generating tools?

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reminder that being in the US without documentation is itself not a crime.

Say a Mexican traveller comes into the USA stating they're just visiting. They get a 7-day temporary visa. They then decide to stay in the country for 17 years until they get caught by ICE agents. Numbers made up solely to be somewhat exaggerated in scale so we're not dealing with grey areas like overstaying a visa for 2 days.

They have committed exactly zero crimes in that above framing. Not even any civil infractions. Literally not one illegal action. There is nothing "illegal" about their presence in the USA, whatsoever.

The framing is an intentional lie to demonize undocumented immigrants and immigrants in general.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vot...155720842.html

Can't do a quote cause I'm on mobile but the gist is: man's wife is taken by ICE because of trump, and he doesn't regret his vote while his wife suffers. I wonder how many years of her being in limbo will it take before his cult mind is broken? Bro is enjoying being cucked so hard.

Hey, it's cheaper than divorce.

[For_The_Horde]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vot...155720842.html

Can't do a quote cause I'm on mobile but the gist is: man's wife is taken by ICE because of trump, and he doesn't regret his vote while his wife suffers. I wonder how many years of her being in limbo will it take before his cult mind is broken? Bro is enjoying being cucked so hard.

For some reason this reminds me of Wolfenstein New Order, where Blazkowicz finds out his father happily handed over his Jewish mother over to the nazis.

[Breccia]

like, senators and private citizens and staffers just involved in the investigation had their details including social security numbers leaked in these reports because this administration is truly incompetent and doesn't give a fuck/know what they're doing.

I'll be honest, when everyone said "Musk is going to get everyone's SS number" this is now how I envisioned it.

[Mayhem]

Mexico is used because of convenience. Any country that is not the source of the asylum claim or the US will always be a third country. If Mexico could not find an agreement to temporarily house or detain (or whatever) people awaiting the result of an asylum request, then another country would have to be found. You'll find no moral or legal basis for why Norway would have to be disregarded in favor of Mexico.

link

U.S.-MexicoJoint Declaration
June 7, 2019
The United States and Mexico met this week to address the shared challenges of irregular
migration, to include the entry of migrants into the United States in violation of U.S. law.
Given the dramatic increase in migrants moving from Central America through Mexico to
the United States, both countries recognize the vital importance of rapidly resolving the
humanitarian emergency and security situation. The Governments of the United States and · ..
Mexico will work to~ether to immediately implement a durable solution.
As a result of these discussions,. the United States and Mexico commit to:
Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to-increase enforcement to curb irregular migration,
to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its
southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and
trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks.
Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation,
including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure out
common border.
Migrant Protection Protocols
The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant
Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means thaUhose crossing the
U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may
await the adjudication of their asylum claims.
In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian
reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of
their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its
principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to
conclude. removal proceedings as expeditious_ly as possible.

You might see the date on that declaration, it's from 2019, you know who was president at that time, I give you three guesses.

[Poopymonster]

I'll be honest, when everyone said "Musk is going to get everyone's SS number" this is now how I envisioned it.

"Boomer gives African everyone's SS" was on my bingo card.

[Mayhem]

What are we supposed to do about any of this

I’m so tired im so demoralized i just feel so defeated bout everything. Is our country really completey collpaisng before our eyes? What are we supposed to do? What am I supposed to do about any of this? Just sit back and watch it happen? I can’t put into words how defeated I feel, just lowest of low. Its just completely shocking watching my country’s institutions and services all unravel before me. What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to feel about any of this. Idk man. I just don’t know anymore. I feel sick

teaching people to do their jobs badly

I'll just leave this here for no reason at all.

[gondrin]

"Boomer gives African everyone's SS" was on my bingo card.

Speaking of SS, you want to see a bunch of pissed off people? Well, if this happens, you actually might see riots. Literal riots by the elderly and other Trump supporters.

The current acting chief of the Social Security Administration is threatening to "Turn it off" if DOGE isn't allowed to access private records. Yeah, fuck him. Shut it off and watch people literally start to riot and absolutely turn against everything Republican.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsVerp

Social Security Chief's 'Turn It Off' Comment Is Latest Insane Turn For Beleaguered Agency

The temporary director of the Social Security Administration suggested agency operations would be so impaired by a court banishing Elon Musk’s DOGE team from sensitive databases that he would just turn out the lights.

A federal judge on Thursday ordered Social Security to revoke the so-called Department of Government Efficiency’s access to various databases containing Americans’ personal information, and for DOGE employees or affiliates to delete any data they’ve taken and remove any software they’ve installed.

In remarks reported by Bloomberg on Thursday evening, Leland Dudek, the acting commissioner of Social Security, said his own staff would count as DOGE affiliates and seemingly joked about shutting down the entire agency.

“As it stands, I will follow it exactly and terminate access by all SSA employees to our IT systems,” Dudek said. “Really, I want to turn it off and let the courts figure out how they want to run a federal agency.”

It’s not clear if any agency operations would actually be affected by the order. Asked for clarification of Dudek’s “turn it off” remarks, the Social Security Administration simply said it would comply with the court order.

Rich Couture, spokesman for the American Federation of Government Employees subchapter that represents more than 40,000 Social Security workers, told HuffPost he hadn’t heard of anyone being shut out of IT systems.

Dudek’s remarks come as Social Security prepares to shed staff while also making major changes to agency operations, with plans to reduce phone service in favor of in-person visits to field offices across the country. Employees have told HuffPost it’s a difficult time to work for the agency, with increased calls from the public compounding anxiety about remaining employed.

“It’s almost as if we’ve turned into a call center with how busy we’ve gotten with calls,” one field office worker told HuffPost. “I mean it went from a point in time where we’d have maybe 100 calls a day, and then on a really big day, it would be about 150, and just on Monday, we had 350 calls.”

The worker said that even though the agency announced on Tuesday that more claimants would be told to do business at field offices starting March 31, in less than two weeks, the agency had not yet briefed staff on new procedures, which employees learned about from the press release.

He said Social Security employees take pride in their work and resent disparaging statements about government workers from Musk, Preisdent Donald Trump and other Republicans.

“We are still the ones out there trying our best to help people and take care of their claims, because we do understand that this is an important time of their life, and most people aren’t prepared for it, and we are there to help them,” the staffer said.

Dudek, formerly a mid-level anti-fraud staffer, became the acting commissioner of Social Security after going around his superiors to work with DOGE. He has since been a wrecking ball, consolidating offices, firing senior staff and even canceling contracts with the state of Maine in an apparent act of political retaliation against the state’s Democratic governor for standing up to Trump.

Dudek’s schemes represent the fulfillment of Musk and Trump’s anti-fraud agenda, with the pair falsely claiming Social Security makes bogus payments to millions of nonexistent beneficiaries.

“He’s untethered and Musk wants it to be shut down,” Martin O’Malley, who served as commissioner of Social Security under President Joe Biden, said of Dudek. O’Malley has previously warned that Dudek’s layoffs and other changes could cause the agency to miss benefit payments.

The group Democracy Forward and AFGE filed suit against DOGE earlier this month. A former Social Security official said in an affidavit as part of the suit that DOGE’s disregard for privacy protections “now threatens the security of the data SSA houses about millions of Americans” and that benefits could be at risk.

Nancy Altman, president of Social Security Works, a liberal group that opposes benefit cuts, called Dudek’s short tenure the darkest time in Social Security’s history, saying he’d been promoted ahead of more than 100 better-qualified SSA employees.

“He has sown chaos and destruction. Now, he is threatening to shut down Social Security completely,” Altman said. “Dudek is willing to deny over 70 million Americans the benefits that most of them rely on to survive, rather than stop DOGE from mucking around with our data.”

[Edge-]

Speaking of SS, you want to see a bunch of pissed off people? Well, if this happens, you actually might see riots. Literal riots by the elderly and other Trump supporters.

The current acting chief of the Social Security Administration is threatening to "Turn it off" if DOGE isn't allowed to access private records. Yeah, fuck him. Shut it off and watch people literally start to riot and absolutely turn against everything Republican.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsVerp

sounds like a good excuse for some civil disorder to declare martial law

this lawless administration is doing everything possible to destroy this nation with the blessing of republicans writ large

even our resident conservatives seem rather unphased and very supportive of all these moves.

[Paranoid Android]

Trump’s commerce secretary Howard Lutnick says if Social Security skipped a check, his mother-in-law wouldn’t complain—and if you would, it indicates you are probably a fraudster. Insane.

Most people live on their SS check. This is a great message to i'm guessing 90% of people who rely on SS. A billionaire saying that it wont hurt his mother-in-law is crazy also. So he doesn't support his motherinlaw? Even if not a billionaire once more saying that don't worry about the check, you will be fine.

Edit: This of course is crazy that he is really, really effin his voter base. Without looking I'm sure the SS recipient age voted 80% for Trump(?). So boomers who watch Fox News and were frightened into the Big Brown people coming to get them are now going to get effed by Trump.

[TACOshake]

Who is Lelend Dudek? Necessary reminder that leland dudek is:

• wildly unqualified for his position as acting SSA commissioner
• would never have been hired for the job on merit
• Is the doge sympathizer they found by accident
• who was promoted for letting doge access shit illegally
• in the brief time in charge he managed to cut off all new cards to Maine newborns for a couple days
• going by his public comments, is a legitimately stupid dipshit

In case anyone is wondering why he's streisanding closing SSA.


Also one of those ceepy dudes that use an extreme-low-angle photo for their LinkedIn profile.

Totl red flag when looking to hire a person. This kind of picture says they have a hard time working with others. Deffinately will not take any kind direction from a superior that happens to be a woman or minority. Probably has micro-dick-syndrome. Drives a RAM MAGADUTY 6500 to get his groceries.

[Edge-]

Trump’s commerce secretary Howard Lutnick says if Social Security skipped a check, his mother-in-law wouldn’t complain—and if you would, it indicates you are probably a fraudster. Insane.

Most people live on their SS check. This is a great message to i'm guessing 90% of people who rely on SS. A billionaire saying that it wont hurt his mother-in-law is crazy also. So he doesn't support his motherinlaw? Even if not a billionaire once more saying that don't worry about the check, you will be fine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...lling-n1167341

Remember that time Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick offered up Grandma and Grandpa for sacrifice "for the economy"?

They're all out of touch rich assholes, every single one of them.

They view empathy as the enemy and it's obvious.

DEATH PANELS, BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

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Who is Lelend Dudek? Necessary reminder that leland dudek is:

• wildly unqualified for his position as acting SSA commissioner
• would never have been hired for the job on merit
• Is the doge sympathizer they found by accident
• who was promoted for letting doge access shit illegally
• in the brief time in charge he managed to cut off all new cards to Maine newborns for a couple days
• going by his public comments, is a legitimately stupid dipshit

In case anyone is wondering why he's streisanding closing SSA.


Also one of those ceepy dudes that use an extreme-low-angle photo for their LinkedIn profile.

Totl red flag when looking to hire a person. This kind of picture says they have a hard time working with others. Deffinately will not take any kind direction from a superior that happens to be a woman or minority. Probably has micro-dick-syndrome. Drives a RAM MAGADUTY 6500 to get his groceries.

where's the "anti-dei" crowd to complain about another unqualified white man being handed a position they're wholly unqualified for?

i'm continuing to think that "dei" is just code for the n-word for most of those folks and they're just covering over racist commentary

[Gorsameth]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...lling-n1167341

Remember that time Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick offered up Grandma and Grandpa for sacrifice "for the economy"?

They're all out of touch rich assholes, every single one of them.

They view empathy as the enemy and it's obvious.

DEATH PANELS, BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

Democrats would have death panels to discuss killing grandma.
Republicans just shoot her and get it over with.

[Moralgy]

So we gonna kill old people over furher musk. Very American of you republicans. Totally not living upto the past decade of nazi accusations.