Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Fugus]

Unfortunately that won't work. Men 18-44 saw the biggest jump to Trump over the 2020 election.

https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-p...ction-results/

Yeah, they voted on economic stuff because they were largely stupid. When the older generations die, they take the worst part of their racist views with them on the large scale.

[Corvus]

Hrm, so the 47th pres names the plane the f47. Normally I'd say coincidence but this narcissist gets no benefit of doubt.

[Edge-]

Hrm, so the 47th pres names the plane the f47. Normally I'd say coincidence but this narcissist gets no benefit of doubt.

well, what this does is also tie the plane to him at the hip.

so if it's a gigantic boondoggle and a colossal waste of money it'll be with his brand on it. which is extremely on brand for donald, actually

[xenogear3]

This person was already going to be deported back to his own country, the administration had to do nothing and they would have deported him.

Instead the Trump admin made the conscious decision of sending him to a prison in El Salvador.

To be fair, there are tons of people were ordered to leave US by the court.
They ignore the order and continue to stay in the US.

What do you do when you arrest them again?
Do you let them sign another agreement and set them free?

[Bwgmon]

Hrm, so the 47th pres names the plane the f47. Normally I'd say coincidence but this narcissist gets no benefit of doubt.

On the flipside, it's also inviting people to push the moniker "Felon-47" specifically to annoy him.

[Edge-]

To be fair, there are tons of people were ordered to leave US by the court.
They ignore the order and continue to stay in the US.

What does this have to do with the example NED shared? This individual was already in the process of being deported back to their home country.

What do you do when you arrest them again?

Follow the law. Which the courts have done. This was an action from the administration, not the courts.

Do you let them sign another agreement and set them free?

It's almost like this has literally nothing to do with the example NED shared.

[SAY HER NAME]

To be fair, there are tons of people were ordered to leave US by the court.
They ignore the order and continue to stay in the US.

What do you do when you arrest them again?
Do you let them sign another agreement and set them free?

???

Why are we acting like they would not have obeyed the agreement they had signed??? I would entertain this idea if you can present evidence that they had violated the deportation agreement they had signed. But just to be sure, these people were arrested you could literally just look it up and see if he had a deportation order on. If he had then walk him to the airport, dont send him to a prison in el salvador. You guys are acting like ICE doesnt know how to deport people, which I am inclined to beleive now

[btlcryct]

Yeah, they voted on economic stuff because they were largely stupid. When the older generations die, they take the worst part of their racist views with them on the large scale.

I'm just saying I wouldn't bank on that as much as you may think. I live in Connecticut and Harris won my state by almost 15%. Yet we've had several instances of people vandalizing places with swastikas, and when they're caught it's almost always a 20s-30s white male. Heck, this is the front page article on our local news site right now:

https://www.wfsb.com/2025/03/21/12-y...erbury-school/

If this is happening in a state she won by 15%, I can't imagine what it's like in states Trump won.

[Fugus]

I'm just saying I wouldn't bank on that as much as you may think. I live in Connecticut and Harris won my state by almost 15%. Yet we've had several instances of people vandalizing places with swastikas, and when they're caught it's almost always a 20s-30s white male. Heck, this is the front page article on our local news site right now:

https://www.wfsb.com/2025/03/21/12-y...erbury-school/

If this is happening in a state she won by 15%, I can't imagine what it's like in states Trump won.

It won’t be 100% gone, it likely never will be, but it will be gone enough that running on it will lose far more votes than it gains. And remember most of that is just learned behavior, bigoted bitch ass parents raise worthless children unless those kids break that mold. It’s a good part of the reason why they want to get rid of public schools and all but that genie is out of the bottle and not going back in.

I see a bunch of racist crap here in North Carolina as well but most of is excuses to explain their economic situation that fox told them. Most of the younger generation l have seen largely reject that crap though.

Not all of it though, most of the younger people I have seen are just plain ignorant and trying to cling to something to explain the issues.

[Rasulis]

11,000 showed up.

[PhaelixWW]

I'm just saying I wouldn't bank on that as much as you may think. I live in Connecticut and Harris won my state by almost 15%. Yet we've had several instances of people vandalizing places with swastikas, and when they're caught it's almost always a 20s-30s white male. Heck, this is the front page article on our local news site right now:

https://www.wfsb.com/2025/03/21/12-y...erbury-school/

If this is happening in a state she won by 15%, I can't imagine what it's like in states Trump won.

Yes, yes, demonstrative racism will be mostly younger men. That doesn't mean that they're a majority of the racist demographic, just the most demonstrative.

Older racists just don't bother vandalizing shit to try and make a point; doesn't make 'em less racist.

[btlcryct]

I agree, to an extent. All I'm saying is that older generation has passed their racism on to the younger generation. That's always been the case. The older generation didn't come up with it on their own, none of the original KKK members are still alive, but they passed their hatred onto what is now the older generation of our time.

[Edge-]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2025-04865.pdf

i do hope the doj under attorney general pam bondi seriously investigates who forged the presidents signature on this, because donald said he did not sign it.

this is a very serious matter if someone is in the white house forging the presidents signature.

very serious.

if true.

[Kaleredar]

I agree, to an extent. All I'm saying is that older generation has passed their racism on to the younger generation. That's always been the case. The older generation didn't come up with it on their own, none of the original KKK members are still alive, but they passed their hatred onto what is now the older generation of our time.

People without a purpose look to blame others. The GOP has expertly degraded the middle class such that young people have very investment in society. They struggle to find jobs, partners, houses, etc.

Some people see the issue of their struggles and can rightly pinpoint the source. But others incorrectly believe (and are told to believe) that minorities and whomever else is actually at fault.

[Fugus]

I agree, to an extent. All I'm saying is that older generation has passed their racism on to the younger generation. That's always been the case. The older generation didn't come up with it on their own, none of the original KKK members are still alive, but they passed their hatred onto what is now the older generation of our time.

Much easier to pass on that hate when most people never left the town they were born in and didn’t have contact outside of it much. The hate they were taught had very little pushback from what they interacted with.

In the days where you can travel more freely and most of your games are across states or even nations and you are more exposed to other cultures, much harder to spread that hate when they are actively shown alternatives to it.

Edit: Nowadays fewer and fewer racist parents have kids whom are as well or at least not near as extreme.

Again, family member who’s way of coping when Biden won the election was by saying “Won’t be too bad, Biden is for the white man”. His eldest daughter has a son with a dreamer, his middle daughter is into black guys, and his youngest daughter appears to be into Mexicans.

[Xath]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2025-04865.pdf

i do hope the doj under attorney general pam bondi seriously investigations who forged the presidents signature on this, because donald said he did not sign it.

this is a very serious matter if someone is in the white house forging the presidents signature.

very serious.

if true.

I mean he's definitely not going senile that was only Joe right republicans.

[For_The_Horde]

So we gonna kill old people over furher musk. Very American of you republicans. Totally not living upto the past decade of nazi accusations.

[SAY HER NAME]

Lee Gelernt, a lawyer for the Venezuelan migrants, said the Trump administration was going down “a very dangerous road" with its use of the Alien Enemies Act because “every nationality in this country has gangs” and could thus be targeted.

Lawyers and family members of several of the 238 men deported to El Salvador over the weekend have said their relatives had no ties to the gang. Trump told reporters earlier Friday that the deportees went through "a very strong vetting process."

Gelernt said El Salvador's government had turned away some deportees who were either not Venezuelan or Salvadoran, or "not men." Those people were returned to the United States, Gelernt said.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-...ns-2025-03-21/

I will apologize to Bukele and the Salvadoran government bc apparently their vetting process is better than that of the US and they dont simply assume everyone is a member of a criminal gang.

The government of El Salvador has a better vetting process than that of the US

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They did not vet if they were gang members, which fair enough, so if you are a man and venezuelan you are out luck.Still, I dont think we should expect a dictatorship to be a bastion of human rights but at least they got the easy pickings away

[Edge-]

They did not vet if they were gang members, which fair enough, so if you are a man and venezuelan you are out luck.Still, I dont think we should expect a dictatorship to be a bastion of human rights but at least they got the easy pickings away

why is that fair enough? are you comfortable deporting people purely based on nationality? because that what it seems like

[gondrin]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2025-04865.pdf

i do hope the doj under attorney general pam bondi seriously investigates who forged the presidents signature on this, because donald said he did not sign it.

this is a very serious matter if someone is in the white house forging the presidents signature.

very serious.

if true.

Oh, this is the first step in throwing either Marco Rubio under the bus or someone like his AG. Maybe Musk himself is going to be thrown under the bus.

Maybe it will look like this.



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So, I wonder if Dudek got a phone call from someone higher up or a reality check from a few people because he definitely changed his tune really quickly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...05147335&ei=13

Acting Social Security chief now says he won't shut down agency after DOGE ruling

The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration now says he is "not shutting down the agency" after earlier suggesting he might do so in the wake of a judge's ruling limiting the Department of Government of Efficiency's access to sensitive agency data.

Leland Dudek, the acting head of the agency, said in a statement Friday he received "clarifying guidance" about the judge's temporary restraining order related to DOGE activities.

"Therefore, I am not shutting down the agency," he said in the statement. "President Trump supports keeping Social Security offices open and getting the right check to the right person at the right time. SSA employees and their work will continue under the [temporary restraining order]."

In an order Thursday, U.S. District Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander blocked the agency from granting personnel affiliated with DOGE access to agency systems containing personally identifiable information.

In a series of interviews on Thursday and Friday, Dudek appeared to suggest that the judge's ruling blocking DOGE from accessing SSA data would force him to pause Social Security payments and block all employees from the agency's systems.

“My anti-fraud team would be DOGE affiliates. My IT staff would be DOGE affiliates,” he said to Bloomberg News on Thursday. “As it stands, I will follow it exactly and terminate access by all SSA employees to our IT systems.”

He continued, “Really, I want to turn it off and let the courts figure out how they want to run a federal agency."

And in a separate Washington Post interview, he doubled down, suggesting "everything in the agency" deals with personally identifiable information, known as PII.

“Everything in this agency is PII,” Dudek said. “Unless I get clarification, I’ll just start to shut it down. I don’t have much of a choice here.”

The judge pushed back Friday in a letter to counsel, writing that "any suggestion that the Order may require the delay or suspension of benefit payments is incorrect."

In the letter, she wrote she was aware of the news reports with Dudek's comments laying out his belief that virtually all employees of SSA would fall within the scope of her order and thus have their access to the agency's IT systems terminated.

"Such assertions about the scope of the Order are inaccurate," the judge wrote. "Employees of SSA who are not involved with the DOGE Team or in the work of the DOGE Team are not subject to the Order. … Moreover, any suggestion that the Order may require the delay or suspension of benefit payments is incorrect."

AARP was one of several organizations that had blasted Dudek's comments threatening to close the agency.

“Social Security has never missed a payment and AARP and our tens of millions of members are not going to stand by and let that happen now," Senior Vice President of Campaigns John Hishta said in a statement.