Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PhaelixWW]

Unfortunately that won't work. Men 18-44 saw the biggest jump to Trump over the 2020 election.

https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-p...ction-results/

That wasn't some permanent ideology shift. Don't count on it not shifting back next election.

[david0925]

So I guess most of our talk the last couple pages about Trump's authority and ability to deport random South and Central Americans to El Salvador is now even more of a clusterfuck because Trump Claims he never actually signed off on the Alien Enemies Act and had 'someone else' sign off on it for him.

Already preparing a fall guy I see

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That wasn't some permanent ideology shift. Don't count on it not shifting back next election.

I don't know. I don't have a lot of faith in Americans not doubling down on the worst choice possible. Hoping to be wrong of course

[btlcryct]

That wasn't some permanent ideology shift. Don't count on it not shifting back next election.

Hopefully you're right. Just saying we can't sit back and think things be better once the older MAGAs pass away.

[Bwgmon]

So I guess most of our talk the last couple pages about Trump's authority and ability to deport random South and Central Americans to El Salvador is now even more of a clusterfuck because Trump Claims he never actually signed off on the Alien Enemies Act and had 'someone else' sign off on it for him.

I guess Rubio's about to become acquainted with the underside of a public transit vehicle.

[Edge-]

So I guess most of our talk the last couple pages about Trump's authority and ability to deport random South and Central Americans to El Salvador is now even more of a clusterfuck because Trump Claims he never actually signed off on the Alien Enemies Act and had 'someone else' sign off on it for him.

that does not seem legal

[Breccia]

So I guess most of our talk the last couple pages about Trump's authority and ability to deport random South and Central Americans to El Salvador is now even more of a clusterfuck because Trump Claims he never actually signed off on the Alien Enemies Act and had 'someone else' sign off on it for him.

Hey, didn't Trump say Biden's pardons were null and void because he didn't really sign them? I think if Trump says in public he didn't really sign anything, then the order is null and void. Bare minimum, he should say "Yes, I signed it" or his public admission means no he didn't.

[PhaelixWW]

I don't know. I don't have a lot of faith in Americans not doubling down on the worst choice possible. Hoping to be wrong of course

Hopefully you're right. Just saying we can't sit back and think things be better once the older MAGAs pass away.

Nobody's suggesting we should just sit back and do nothing.

But keep in mind that those 18-44 are the group most likely to be idiots about the economy. People in their late teens and 20s (especially men) tend to think they have all the answers because whatever "answer" they hear first sounds super-deep and meaningful, regardless of whether or not it has actual merit.

Just watch it in action:




So it wasn't too difficult to convince a number of them that the people in charge were responsible for the recent economic woes. But that trick doesn't work as well when the GoP are the ones making the decisions and are demonstrably not just not "fixing" the economy, but actively making it worse.

[NED funded]

Fritzgeralth Cornejo, 26, signed a deportation agreement and called his family in Venezuela on Saturday to say he would soon be home. “We waited for him to arrive on Sunday but he never arrived,” said Fritzgeralth’s brother Carlos Cornejo. “By Monday we realised something was wrong as he was still incommunicado.”

This person was already going to be deported back to his own country, the administration had to do nothing and they would have deported him.

Instead the Trump admin made the conscious decision of sending him to a prison in El Salvador. Words cannot describe the amount of hatred I feel for the Trump admin for these inhumane

https://archive.is/PjPZQ#selection-2481.0-2485.1

There are more cases in there but this was one of the most egregious ones .

[Fugus]

Unfortunately that won't work. Men 18-44 saw the biggest jump to Trump over the 2020 election.

https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-p...ction-results/

Yeah, they voted on economic stuff because they were largely stupid. When the older generations die, they take the worst part of their racist views with them on the large scale.

[Corvus]

Hrm, so the 47th pres names the plane the f47. Normally I'd say coincidence but this narcissist gets no benefit of doubt.

[Edge-]

Hrm, so the 47th pres names the plane the f47. Normally I'd say coincidence but this narcissist gets no benefit of doubt.

well, what this does is also tie the plane to him at the hip.

so if it's a gigantic boondoggle and a colossal waste of money it'll be with his brand on it. which is extremely on brand for donald, actually

[xenogear3]

This person was already going to be deported back to his own country, the administration had to do nothing and they would have deported him.

Instead the Trump admin made the conscious decision of sending him to a prison in El Salvador.

To be fair, there are tons of people were ordered to leave US by the court.
They ignore the order and continue to stay in the US.

What do you do when you arrest them again?
Do you let them sign another agreement and set them free?

[Bwgmon]

Hrm, so the 47th pres names the plane the f47. Normally I'd say coincidence but this narcissist gets no benefit of doubt.

On the flipside, it's also inviting people to push the moniker "Felon-47" specifically to annoy him.

[Edge-]

To be fair, there are tons of people were ordered to leave US by the court.
They ignore the order and continue to stay in the US.

What does this have to do with the example NED shared? This individual was already in the process of being deported back to their home country.

What do you do when you arrest them again?

Follow the law. Which the courts have done. This was an action from the administration, not the courts.

Do you let them sign another agreement and set them free?

It's almost like this has literally nothing to do with the example NED shared.

[NED funded]

To be fair, there are tons of people were ordered to leave US by the court.
They ignore the order and continue to stay in the US.

What do you do when you arrest them again?
Do you let them sign another agreement and set them free?

???

Why are we acting like they would not have obeyed the agreement they had signed??? I would entertain this idea if you can present evidence that they had violated the deportation agreement they had signed. But just to be sure, these people were arrested you could literally just look it up and see if he had a deportation order on. If he had then walk him to the airport, dont send him to a prison in el salvador. You guys are acting like ICE doesnt know how to deport people, which I am inclined to beleive now

[btlcryct]

Yeah, they voted on economic stuff because they were largely stupid. When the older generations die, they take the worst part of their racist views with them on the large scale.

I'm just saying I wouldn't bank on that as much as you may think. I live in Connecticut and Harris won my state by almost 15%. Yet we've had several instances of people vandalizing places with swastikas, and when they're caught it's almost always a 20s-30s white male. Heck, this is the front page article on our local news site right now:

https://www.wfsb.com/2025/03/21/12-y...erbury-school/

If this is happening in a state she won by 15%, I can't imagine what it's like in states Trump won.

[Fugus]

I'm just saying I wouldn't bank on that as much as you may think. I live in Connecticut and Harris won my state by almost 15%. Yet we've had several instances of people vandalizing places with swastikas, and when they're caught it's almost always a 20s-30s white male. Heck, this is the front page article on our local news site right now:

https://www.wfsb.com/2025/03/21/12-y...erbury-school/

If this is happening in a state she won by 15%, I can't imagine what it's like in states Trump won.

It won’t be 100% gone, it likely never will be, but it will be gone enough that running on it will lose far more votes than it gains. And remember most of that is just learned behavior, bigoted bitch ass parents raise worthless children unless those kids break that mold. It’s a good part of the reason why they want to get rid of public schools and all but that genie is out of the bottle and not going back in.

I see a bunch of racist crap here in North Carolina as well but most of is excuses to explain their economic situation that fox told them. Most of the younger generation l have seen largely reject that crap though.

Not all of it though, most of the younger people I have seen are just plain ignorant and trying to cling to something to explain the issues.

[Rasulis]

11,000 showed up.

[PhaelixWW]

I'm just saying I wouldn't bank on that as much as you may think. I live in Connecticut and Harris won my state by almost 15%. Yet we've had several instances of people vandalizing places with swastikas, and when they're caught it's almost always a 20s-30s white male. Heck, this is the front page article on our local news site right now:

https://www.wfsb.com/2025/03/21/12-y...erbury-school/

If this is happening in a state she won by 15%, I can't imagine what it's like in states Trump won.

Yes, yes, demonstrative racism will be mostly younger men. That doesn't mean that they're a majority of the racist demographic, just the most demonstrative.

Older racists just don't bother vandalizing shit to try and make a point; doesn't make 'em less racist.

[btlcryct]

I agree, to an extent. All I'm saying is that older generation has passed their racism on to the younger generation. That's always been the case. The older generation didn't come up with it on their own, none of the original KKK members are still alive, but they passed their hatred onto what is now the older generation of our time.