Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2025-04865.pdf

i do hope the doj under attorney general pam bondi seriously investigates who forged the presidents signature on this, because donald said he did not sign it.

this is a very serious matter if someone is in the white house forging the presidents signature.

very serious.

if true.

[Kaleredar]

I agree, to an extent. All I'm saying is that older generation has passed their racism on to the younger generation. That's always been the case. The older generation didn't come up with it on their own, none of the original KKK members are still alive, but they passed their hatred onto what is now the older generation of our time.

People without a purpose look to blame others. The GOP has expertly degraded the middle class such that young people have very investment in society. They struggle to find jobs, partners, houses, etc.

Some people see the issue of their struggles and can rightly pinpoint the source. But others incorrectly believe (and are told to believe) that minorities and whomever else is actually at fault.

[Fugus]

I agree, to an extent. All I'm saying is that older generation has passed their racism on to the younger generation. That's always been the case. The older generation didn't come up with it on their own, none of the original KKK members are still alive, but they passed their hatred onto what is now the older generation of our time.

Much easier to pass on that hate when most people never left the town they were born in and didn’t have contact outside of it much. The hate they were taught had very little pushback from what they interacted with.

In the days where you can travel more freely and most of your games are across states or even nations and you are more exposed to other cultures, much harder to spread that hate when they are actively shown alternatives to it.

Edit: Nowadays fewer and fewer racist parents have kids whom are as well or at least not near as extreme.

Again, family member who’s way of coping when Biden won the election was by saying “Won’t be too bad, Biden is for the white man”. His eldest daughter has a son with a dreamer, his middle daughter is into black guys, and his youngest daughter appears to be into Mexicans.

[Xath]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2025-04865.pdf

i do hope the doj under attorney general pam bondi seriously investigations who forged the presidents signature on this, because donald said he did not sign it.

this is a very serious matter if someone is in the white house forging the presidents signature.

very serious.

if true.

I mean he's definitely not going senile that was only Joe right republicans.

[For_The_Horde]

So we gonna kill old people over furher musk. Very American of you republicans. Totally not living upto the past decade of nazi accusations.

[NED funded]

Lee Gelernt, a lawyer for the Venezuelan migrants, said the Trump administration was going down “a very dangerous road" with its use of the Alien Enemies Act because “every nationality in this country has gangs” and could thus be targeted.

Lawyers and family members of several of the 238 men deported to El Salvador over the weekend have said their relatives had no ties to the gang. Trump told reporters earlier Friday that the deportees went through "a very strong vetting process."

Gelernt said El Salvador's government had turned away some deportees who were either not Venezuelan or Salvadoran, or "not men." Those people were returned to the United States, Gelernt said.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-...ns-2025-03-21/

I will apologize to Bukele and the Salvadoran government bc apparently their vetting process is better than that of the US and they dont simply assume everyone is a member of a criminal gang.

The government of El Salvador has a better vetting process than that of the US

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They did not vet if they were gang members, which fair enough, so if you are a man and venezuelan you are out luck.Still, I dont think we should expect a dictatorship to be a bastion of human rights but at least they got the easy pickings away

[Edge-]

They did not vet if they were gang members, which fair enough, so if you are a man and venezuelan you are out luck.Still, I dont think we should expect a dictatorship to be a bastion of human rights but at least they got the easy pickings away

why is that fair enough? are you comfortable deporting people purely based on nationality? because that what it seems like

[gondrin]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2025-04865.pdf

i do hope the doj under attorney general pam bondi seriously investigates who forged the presidents signature on this, because donald said he did not sign it.

this is a very serious matter if someone is in the white house forging the presidents signature.

very serious.

if true.

Oh, this is the first step in throwing either Marco Rubio under the bus or someone like his AG. Maybe Musk himself is going to be thrown under the bus.

Maybe it will look like this.



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So, I wonder if Dudek got a phone call from someone higher up or a reality check from a few people because he definitely changed his tune really quickly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...05147335&ei=13

Acting Social Security chief now says he won't shut down agency after DOGE ruling

The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration now says he is "not shutting down the agency" after earlier suggesting he might do so in the wake of a judge's ruling limiting the Department of Government of Efficiency's access to sensitive agency data.

Leland Dudek, the acting head of the agency, said in a statement Friday he received "clarifying guidance" about the judge's temporary restraining order related to DOGE activities.

"Therefore, I am not shutting down the agency," he said in the statement. "President Trump supports keeping Social Security offices open and getting the right check to the right person at the right time. SSA employees and their work will continue under the [temporary restraining order]."

In an order Thursday, U.S. District Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander blocked the agency from granting personnel affiliated with DOGE access to agency systems containing personally identifiable information.

In a series of interviews on Thursday and Friday, Dudek appeared to suggest that the judge's ruling blocking DOGE from accessing SSA data would force him to pause Social Security payments and block all employees from the agency's systems.

“My anti-fraud team would be DOGE affiliates. My IT staff would be DOGE affiliates,” he said to Bloomberg News on Thursday. “As it stands, I will follow it exactly and terminate access by all SSA employees to our IT systems.”

He continued, “Really, I want to turn it off and let the courts figure out how they want to run a federal agency."

And in a separate Washington Post interview, he doubled down, suggesting "everything in the agency" deals with personally identifiable information, known as PII.

“Everything in this agency is PII,” Dudek said. “Unless I get clarification, I’ll just start to shut it down. I don’t have much of a choice here.”

The judge pushed back Friday in a letter to counsel, writing that "any suggestion that the Order may require the delay or suspension of benefit payments is incorrect."

In the letter, she wrote she was aware of the news reports with Dudek's comments laying out his belief that virtually all employees of SSA would fall within the scope of her order and thus have their access to the agency's IT systems terminated.

"Such assertions about the scope of the Order are inaccurate," the judge wrote. "Employees of SSA who are not involved with the DOGE Team or in the work of the DOGE Team are not subject to the Order. … Moreover, any suggestion that the Order may require the delay or suspension of benefit payments is incorrect."

AARP was one of several organizations that had blasted Dudek's comments threatening to close the agency.

“Social Security has never missed a payment and AARP and our tens of millions of members are not going to stand by and let that happen now," Senior Vice President of Campaigns John Hishta said in a statement.

[Mayhem]

So I guess most of our talk the last couple pages about Trump's authority and ability to deport random South and Central Americans to El Salvador is now even more of a clusterfuck because Trump Claims he never actually signed off on the Alien Enemies Act and had 'someone else' sign off on it for him.

Was their name A. Utopen?

[PACOX]

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...2025-04865.pdf

i do hope the doj under attorney general pam bondi seriously investigates who forged the presidents signature on this, because donald said he did not sign it.

this is a very serious matter if someone is in the white house forging the presidents signature.

very serious.

if true.

Old man needs a power of attorney. That grandpa's sharpie away.

[Mayhem]

Hey, America would you be so kind as to fuck off and keep your nationalistic shit contained within your border?

The Trump administration’s most influential think tank, The Heritage Foundation, is receiving proposals from illiberal forces in Poland and Hungary on how to shape the future of the European Union. The proposals, obtained by VSquare, include dismantling key EU institutions and renaming the entire bloc.

“The future of EU Treaty Reform will greatly impact transatlantic relations. Understanding how that might unfold is critical for those invested in a Europe that is whole, free, at peace, and prosperous. To that end, we have organized this important workshop on March 11 at 2 PM EST at The Heritage Foundation.”

link

[PhaelixWW]

Hey, America would you be so kind as to fuck off and keep your nationalistic shit contained within your border?

Out of luck for the next four years, mate.

Check back in in late 2028.

[For_The_Horde]

Productive no, but cathartic yes. And certainly less unproductive (aka harmful) than actually vandalizing a vehicle. People with Tesla money and a clear video of you touching their car can go after you legally. But its just a waste of time if its over a sticker since there's absolutely no damages. The only thing you've hurt is their feelings. Best to just get it out of your system now anyways before touching a Tesla becomes an instant terrorism charge due to executive order. Only a matter of time.

Hey look past me, I was right.

People that get caught sabotaging Teslas will stand a very good chance of going to jail for up to twenty years, and that includes the funders. WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOU!!!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...98218638202475

I look forward to watching the sick terrorist thugs get 20 year jail sentences for what they are doing to Elon Musk and Tesla. Perhaps they could serve them in the prisons of El Salvador, which have become so recently famous for such lovely conditions!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...00244380161257



Added bonus of being expatriated and shipped to a foreign prison where human rights don't matter to spend the rest of your life.

[PhaelixWW]

Added bonus of being expatriated and shipped to a foreign prison where human rights don't matter to spend the rest of your life.

That's one way of avoiding them being effectively pardoned in a bit under 4 years from now, I guess.

[For_The_Horde]

That's one way of avoiding them being effectively pardoned in a bit under 4 years from now, I guess.

So basically you can storm the capital, assault cops, smear poop on the walls, and threaten to murder representatives for doing their jobs, completely without consequence because Trump said its fine. Meanwhile if you door-ding a Tesla you'll be hunted down like an animal, stripped of your citizenship, and thrown into the deepest darkest hellhole that accepts reservations.

[Elenos]

Out of luck for the next four years, mate.

Check back in in late 2028.

Oh no, those of us in Europe own this one. Events of the last decade and a half are really coming around to bite us in the ass here, very hard.

I've wondered since 2016 how many years it would take Trump to realize that if he wanted to absolutely destroy the EU he could.

[Teriz]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-...ns-2025-03-21/

I will apologize to Bukele and the Salvadoran government bc apparently their vetting process is better than that of the US and they dont simply assume everyone is a member of a criminal gang.

The government of El Salvador has a better vetting process than that of the US

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They did not vet if they were gang members, which fair enough, so if you are a man and venezuelan you are out luck.Still, I dont think we should expect a dictatorship to be a bastion of human rights but at least they got the easy pickings away

That's a genuinely horrifying article.

Pretty blatant violation of multiple laws and individual rights.

I wonder how many voters here in the states still feel that both sides are the same.

[Nymrohd]

Tesla cars really have more rights than women.

[Draco-Onis]

Tesla cars really have more rights than women.

Well according to them anyways unless congress passes laws there's zero chance terrorism charges would hold up in court instead of plain vandalism. It is insane that immigrants are being held in less regard than Elon's shitty cars that are literally falling apart.

[Belize]

Tesla cars really have more rights than women.

Unlike women, Teslers let conservatives ride them, heyooooo