Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

Trump announces plans to tariff fentanyl.



"Wait...what?"



"...he does know it's illegal and being smuggled, right? Tariffs don't apply to those."

Well again, Trump is insisting on using fentanyl as a prop here. The depiction that Canada is intentionally allowing mass amounts of this admittedly harmful drug into the US on purpose is false. There is a negative change that the USA is importing auto parts from Canada, buoyed by the fentanyl trade. He just needs a National Security Lol and that's what he went with. But yes, announcing a tariff on fentanyl is just senile and/or retarded.

irs gonna make a killing on those tariffs paid by the

*checks notes*

drug dealers in the USA

damn man, poor american fent addicts gonna be struggling to keep up with the finflation that's gonna bring.

just more proof that donald is one of the dumbest people alive and republicans think he's very smart

we just have to trust teh economic instincts of a dude that think you can slap tariffs on

*checks notes*

the illegal drug trade roflmao

do you know if drug dealers are good about filing timely and accurate irs reports?

this is so fundamentally unserious it should functionally be the end of his presidency, but it's just tuesday (well, wednesday)

[gondrin]

Trump announces plans to tariff fentanyl.



"Wait...what?"



"...he does know it's illegal and being smuggled, right? Tariffs don't apply to those."

Well again, Trump is insisting on using fentanyl as a prop here. The depiction that Canada is intentionally allowing mass amounts of this admittedly harmful drug into the US on purpose is false. There is a negative change that the USA is importing auto parts from Canada, buoyed by the fentanyl trade. He just needs a National Security Lol and that's what he went with. But yes, announcing a tariff on fentanyl is just senile and/or retarded.

Doesn't that make Trump part drug dealer then since he would, indirectly, be making money off of it? And according to his own logic, shouldn't he also receive the death penalty?

[Edge-]

Doesn't that make Trump part drug dealer then since he would, indirectly, be making money off of it? And according to his own logic, shouldn't he also receive the death penalty?

how dare you like

use your brain and connect the various insane things donald has said and forgotten about

[gondrin]

Tbh, the state of New York ought to drop a rock on the head of the judge.
And the friend of the court.

/serious

The corrupt bastards gotta go

Problem is that since the DoJ decided to drop the case, the Judge pretty much had to dismiss the case outright even though there is evidence of the event happening. There was nobody actually to try the case now.

So, it was either dismiss without prejudice which mean the charges can be brought back(like Trump wanted) OR with prejudice which means Trump cannot use future charges as a means to influence policy within NYC. There is no good option here.

That is why state charges should have been filed if possible in the first place.

[fwc577]

Here is a horrific notion.

They are going to Weekend at Bernie's him.

What do you think is happening now? You think Trump is actually making a lot of these decisions or the people behind Project 2025 are making the decisions?

[gondrin]

Trump Media's stock is tanking on the news that basically the President and other insiders may sell off up to 134 million shares from time to time. Meaning that the President may finally cash out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...93456b17&ei=11

[Breccia]

Doesn't that make Trump part drug dealer then since he would, indirectly, be making money off of it?

If it was reasonable and realistic, yes. This is neither. Trump is just a fucking idiot.

[Timester]

So, at what time starts the civil war between MAGA and Temu Stark's bots?

/popcorn

[Poopymonster]

To be fair, this is a must.
Without an universal one, the goods can go through a 3rd country and get into US.
It only made a middle man (country) rich.

Nah, Trump needs to be able to carve out exceptions for his own companies, those who suck his cock appropriately, or give him enough money to bribe him.

[TACOshake]

So, at what time starts the civil war between MAGA and Temu Stark's bots?

/popcorn

Hard to tell. Rachel Bade is mostly a court stenographer/PR for the Trump admin. Trump or Susie is just floating a trial ballon to see how this plays in the press.
Rachel is just a less horny version of Olivia Nuzzi.

For people asking, the Trump/eDolf split rumor is a "pOLitiCo EXCLUSIVE".

[btlcryct]

Apparently imported meds might be included in the tariffs. Per CNN:

President Donald Trump has floated the idea of higher tariffs on pharmaceutical products, though he has suggested that life-saving drugs could be spared. If they are not, the impact on many Americans could be unthinkable, according to one CEO.

Speaking to BBC World Service radio, Gareth Sheridan, the Irish CEO of Nutriband, a US health care company, noted that Ireland – which exports a lot of pharmaceuticals – makes a wide range of medications, including those used for chemotherapy and for treating heart conditions and diabetes.

“These types of treatments can’t afford a disruption in the global supply chain. You know, as a comparable situation, tariffs on automobiles: You can’t afford a BMW now? Okay, you can buy a Ford and you can still get to work,” he said.

“If you have a 25% hike on chemotherapy and you can’t afford your treatment anymore, what’s the alternative? I mean, ultimately, people are going to die and they’re going to die because they can’t afford to live.”

Remember: Last year, the United States imported $232.7 billion worth of medicinal and pharmaceutical products, based on official US data.

How much you want to bet insurance companies start denying these due to the price increases?

[Mazza]

Trump announces plans to tariff fentanyl.



"Wait...what?"



"...he does know it's illegal and being smuggled, right? Tariffs don't apply to those."

Well again, Trump is insisting on using fentanyl as a prop here. The depiction that Canada is intentionally allowing mass amounts of this admittedly harmful drug into the US on purpose is false. There is a negative change that the USA is importing auto parts from Canada, buoyed by the fentanyl trade. He just needs a National Security Lol and that's what he went with. But yes, announcing a tariff on fentanyl is just senile and/or retarded.

At this rate the Onion is not going to be able to compete with reality anymore

[Rasulis]

Trump seems to prefer 25%, and has been dancing semantics around "universal" recently. I think there's a couple of countries he wants to grant exceptions to and needs a way to do that without looking like he's selling out.

The market shouldn't drop. Everyone knows a massive tariff is coming. Anyone in the business of predicting America's fiscal future knew it sucked months ago and should have sold off by now. There will be a drop, but I don't think it'll be a bad one in a single day. The real drop is the 3,000 points since Trump took office.

I don't think tariff is baked into the market yet. Personally, I am not too concerned about the market. Been through much worse and it always recovered.

I am more concerned with the sufferings that his tariff will bring. I understand that there are a lot of nationalist economists in the administration that would like to bring manufacturing back into the US. Lofty goals. Except that it is not going to bring prices down.

Reshoring cost money. Wages in the US is also higher. Companies are not going to do all that out of the goodness of their heart. Somebody will pay for those. Namely customers. Not to mention that complete reshoring will take decades to complete.

Will reshoring bring more jobs and wages? Maybe. The US is not the blue-collar country it used to be. Our work force has shifted toward more white-collar. Manufacturing has become highly mechanized and automated. The US also lacks the get your hands covered in grease type of mechanical and electrical engineers which will be needed at these new factories. Tons of solid-state electrical engineers that would not even know how to design the wiring of a transformer box. We are not going to be able to train these highly trained workers overnight.

Combined with all the cuts to social services, we are looking at unprecedented level of suffering for those less well off.

[Edge-]

Apparently imported meds might be included in the tariffs. Per CNN:



How much you want to bet insurance companies start denying these due to the price increases?

INFLATION IS SO FUCKING COOL I LOVE INFLATION AND REGRESSIVE TAXATION SO FUCKING MUCH

am i doing it right?

[Rasulis]

INFLATION IS SO FUCKING COOL I LOVE INFLATION AND REGRESSIVE TAXATION SO FUCKING MUCH

am i doing it right?

This sledgehammer approach to tariff is beyond stupid.

Here is an example. The US imposed a 25% tariff on all imported pickup trucks. As a result, domestic carmakers have focused on building big pickup trucks that don't face foreign competition, while largely ignoring the more hotly contested market for sedans. Has it made the price of Ford and GM pickup trucks cheaper? Hell, NO! Even with the tariff, Toyota is still cheaper with better reputation.

It has made GM and Ford lazy. They have less incentive to invest, invent and compete on the world stage. While building big pickup trucks has been very profitable for U.S. automakers here at home, there's not much market for those vehicles elsewhere around the world. Protected companies tend to grow complacent.

Outside the US, Toyota is king. The Chinese companies are catching up fast.

[Edge-]

This sledgehammer approach to tariff is beyond stupid.

Here is an example. The US imposed a 25% tariff on all imported pickup trucks. As a result, domestic carmakers have focused on building big pickup trucks that don't face foreign competition, while largely ignoring the more hotly contested market for sedans. Has it made the price of Ford and GM pickup trucks cheaper? Hell, NO! Even with the tariff, Toyota is still cheaper with better reputation.

It has made GM and Ford lazy. They have less incentive to invest, invent and compete on the world stage. While building big pickup trucks has been very profitable for U.S. automakers here at home, there's not much market for those vehicles elsewhere around the world.

Outside the US, Toyota is king. The Chinese companies are catching up fast.

a lot of the US feels like its sleepwalking through the good times expecting them to never end and i fear they're ending rather quickly as they were always built on a shaky, temporary foundation that we never shored up as a nation (in large part because republicans seemingly want the nation in this precarious position)

[btlcryct]

INFLATION IS SO FUCKING COOL I LOVE INFLATION AND REGRESSIVE TAXATION SO FUCKING MUCH

am i doing it right?

Not enough "CrY MoRe LibTards, GiVe Me More Lib TeArs!!!!!11!!!!"

[Draco-Onis]

Not enough "CrY MoRe LibTards, GiVe Me More Lib TeArs!!!!!11!!!!"

The republican base core belief right now is that we should stab ourselves so we can nick liberals. Every foreign country is micro targeting red states more than blue ones, that's not even going into the fact that all these federal cuts will affect them more.

[Moralgy]

Elon is actually out here complaining about billionaires in the Wisconsin election... I seriously can not at how stupid this is.

[Edge-]

Elon is actually out here complaining about billionaires in the Wisconsin election... I seriously can not at how stupid this is.

everything is always projection from republicans

fucking always

elon is everything republicans have antisemetically accused george soros of all these years