Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kaleredar]

I'm pretty sure this is not the fault of AI. Any person spending more than a millisecond looking at those numbers can see they are wrong.

The problem is specifically that AI gives these morons “bright ideas” because, as others have noted, it starts from a conclusion and works backwards, and AI isn’t smart enough to say “your conclusion was stupid.” It says “alrighty boss let’s assume that’s true, this is a sentence of words that can rationally be strung together as a response!” and morons like Musk and by extension Trump are so convinced of its supremacy that they just follow it. Plus… They’re lazy, so why not? And if it doesn’t work, it was the AI’s fault, right! And can you fix the AI to make it smarter? Well no not really, but you can feed it more data and energy and its creators more money and hey maybe it’ll be right a second or third or eighth time, who’s to say?

It’s a tool that’s poorly designed and is being used poorly.

[Edge-]

The problem is specifically that AI gives these morons “bright ideas” because, as others have noted, it starts from a conclusion and works backwards, and AI isn’t smart enough to say “your conclusion was stupid.” It says “alrighty boss let’s assume that’s true, this is a sentence of words that can rationally be strung together as a response!” and morons like Musk and by extension Trump are so convinced of its supremacy that they just follow it. Plus… They’re lazy, so why not? And if it doesn’t work, it was the AI’s fault, right! And can you fix the AI to make it smarter? Well no not really, but you can feed it more data and energy and its creators more money and hey maybe it’ll be right a second or third or eighth time, who’s to say?

It’s a tool that’s poorly designed and is being used poorly.

incompetent idiots implicitly trust ai

which explains why it seems this administration is using ai on a fairly widespread scale

[tehdang]

We aren’t “equal” to Trump voters… because we didn’t vote for Trump.

As I just posted, literally none of this would be happening under Harris.

It doesn’t matter how “icky” of a candidate you think she was, you cannot deny there would be no “trade war,” no “stock market collapse,” no “abandoning Ukraine,” no “massive DOGE layoffs,” no “immense security breaches,” ANY of those uniquely Trump things that have happened in three short months and show no signs of improving.

You’re trying to make a point about moral culpability. I talked about his post’s point on Trump voters and contrasting it with his description of Trump’s opponent. You can both partially identify issues with Trump’s voters knowledge of economics, and then show beliefs in lies and ignorance of candidates to lower yourself into their camp. Intelligence-wise. Which is fine if you yield that you’re as dumb as a certain segment of Trump voters, just in other ways.

[Edge-]

You’re trying to make a point about moral culpability. I talked about his post’s point on Trump voters and contrasting it with his description of Trump’s opponent. You can both partially identify issues with Trump’s voters knowledge of economics, and then show beliefs in lies and ignorance of candidates to lower yourself into their camp. Intelligence-wise. Which is fine if you yield that you’re as dumb as a certain segment of Trump voters, just in other ways.

what other ways, do ya reckon?

is it "you're economically literate and know a tariff is a domestic tax"?

[LeGin v4]

Good news:

THE PATIENT LIVED AND IS HEALING

[Edge-]

https://newrepublic.com/post/193523/...-military-base

THE DAYS OF THE BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY ABUSING THE UNITED STATES VIA TRADE ARE OVER

Who lives on the British Indian Ocean Territory?

The islands are mostly uninhabited, save for approximately 3,000 U.S. and U.K. military personnel who are stationed at a joint Navy Support Facility on the island Diego Garcia. Trump’s tariffs would mostly affect the service members there. Another roughly 1,200 people live on the country’s Chagos Archipelago.

Ah yes, tariffing an island primarily inhabited by our own military.

Truly, the most impressive administration ever to exist. The competence is stunning.

[Poopymonster]

The novelty here is that if the rumours turn out to be true he is going to replace the yes men with even more sycophantic yes men. An ideological purge of his own yes men.

The Yes men weren't Yes enough. He needs Yessier men. And more Yessier men. Eventually he'll have the Yessiest men to ever yes a man.
Note: He will NOT get any YASSSSS men.

[LeGin v4]

https://newrepublic.com/post/193523/...-military-base

THE DAYS OF THE BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY ABUSING THE UNITED STATES VIA TRADE ARE OVER

Who lives on the British Indian Ocean Territory?



Ah yes, tariffing an island primarily inhabited by our own military.

Truly, the most impressive administration ever to exist. The competence is stunning.

I was quite impressed by the inclusion of the Heard Island and McDonald Islands, that ceased economic activity in about 1877

"ice-covered", "bleak", "small", "rocky"

[Zaydin]

I blame the media while democrats need to be better at messaging, they wanted Trump to win because he is good for ratings. Presidential races have always had an element of the circus but Trump is sheer catnip they can't resist.

The press needs to be held accountable for constantly sanewashing every insane thing DonOld did or said while hyping up the dumbest things that Biden/Harris did as 'massive problems'.

[Elder Millennial]

Nah, it's AIs fault. We haven't given them the missiles yet for judgment day so they're bringing about judgment day in a different manner. They generated a lot of pro-Trump content to get him re-elected and now they're influencing the White House with the end goal being the destruction of humanity! /s

incompetent idiots implicitly trust ai

which explains why it seems this administration is using ai on a fairly widespread scale

I despise AI, and I think any government official using it for anything should be a fireable offense.

The problem is deeper. The prompt they used was deeply simplistic, and the AI gave them exactly what they asked for. BUT EVEN THEN, they didn't understand what the AI gave them and they completely misused the equation as given to them.

These people are too stupid to even the use ChatGPT.

[Kaleredar]

incompetent idiots implicitly trust ai

which explains why it seems this administration is using ai on a fairly widespread scale

Hence my point. While Trump is a very pointed example in the US… sadly many countries have the same self-important, self-aggrandizing idiotic nationalist pricks in Trump’s vein that have been bubbling up.

[NED funded]

https://newrepublic.com/post/193523/...-military-base

THE DAYS OF THE BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY ABUSING THE UNITED STATES VIA TRADE ARE OVER

Who lives on the British Indian Ocean Territory?



Ah yes, tariffing an island primarily inhabited by our own military.

Truly, the most impressive administration ever to exist. The competence is stunning.

I saw a post about this and it was basically that the Trump admin catalogued these nations via domain and not actual territorial boundaries. Its why Gibraltar and France are separate despite literally being the same. Gibraltar has a separate domain name (.gi) and why British Indian Ocean territory is there (.io)

This was made by a LLM and none bothered to check it b4hand

[Breccia]

tehdang you will now comment on Trump sparing Russia specifically, because Russia has suffered enough. Failure to do so means you approve of sparing Russia.

(hours pass)

You’re trying to-

Well, no dissent noted, sooooooo...

I accept and approve of Trump sparing Russia from tariffs.

[Xath]

The press needs to be held accountable for constantly sanewashing every insane thing DonOld did or said while hyping up the dumbest things that Biden/Harris did as 'massive problems'.

This is also incredibly accurate

[Breccia]

IGN just wades into it with the article Here's Why the Nintendo Switch 2, Mario Kart World, and Everything Around Them Is So Expensive

"Um, why are you posting that here? This is a thread about things Trump did."

I know. And yet.

To be fair, IGN doesn't just say "It's tariffs" and walk away. They flat-out say Nintendo might be using them as an excuse, raising the price artificially so the tariffs don't raise them further, then leaving it high and reaping the profits. But they do also flat-out say ignoring the tariffs, and the dollar vs. the yen, is foolish.

[Frozenbeef]

God damn penguins taking advantage of American citizens.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...ns/ar-AA1Cf3SK

[Kaleredar]

IGN just wades into it with the article Here's Why the Nintendo Switch 2, Mario Kart World, and Everything Around Them Is So Expensive

"Um, why are you posting that here? This is a thread about things Trump did."

I know. And yet.

To be fair, IGN doesn't just say "It's tariffs" and walk away. They flat-out say Nintendo might be using them as an excuse, raising the price artificially so the tariffs don't raise them further, then leaving it high and reaping the profits. But they do also flat-out say ignoring the tariffs, and the dollar vs. the yen, is foolish.

And because it’s Nintendo, the price will never go down.

[Moralgy]

Guys y did gas go up 50 cent in my area suddenly. I thought prices were going down???

[Breccia]

Trump blows up world trade, then takes weekend golfing.

[Tech614]

IGN just wades into it with the article Here's Why the Nintendo Switch 2, Mario Kart World, and Everything Around Them Is So Expensive

"Um, why are you posting that here? This is a thread about things Trump did."

I know. And yet.

To be fair, IGN doesn't just say "It's tariffs" and walk away. They flat-out say Nintendo might be using them as an excuse, raising the price artificially so the tariffs don't raise them further, then leaving it high and reaping the profits. But they do also flat-out say ignoring the tariffs, and the dollar vs. the yen, is foolish.

I'm pretty sure at $450 the system is barely turning them a profit on units sold before tariffs, and $10 increase on games is definitely not funding tariff costs. The game price increase is 100% their own greed, the games are fucking 90 euros in the EU my dude.

These prices have jack shit to do with the tariffs, these are the prices Nintendo wants to sell at. If anything Nintendo might have to raise the price after their already imported stock is ran through since the vast majority of their production is in Vietnam and Cambodia.

If you think these prices are because of the tariffs did you really think the Switch 2 was going to sell for $300? The same price the Switch 1 still sells for? Like at best, Nintendo expected 10-20% tariffs and changed it to $450 instead of $400 but $450 is 100% NOT taking into account 49% and 46% tariffs on their biggest production hubs.