Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

Well you're in luck, the secretary of health is ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to handling disease spread.

is it him? or is it the reanimated corpse of the brainworm he starved to death doing a ratatoullie on him?

[DarkTZeratul]

And again, I don’t think people will buy that

Of course they won't. This administration is going to crash and burn and it will be their own fault.

[Gorsameth]

i've heard this and i keep asking who we're at war with that we need a war economy and i've never had an answer : /

Well the US did just start a trade war with the entire world so...

there is your answer.
Your now at war with the world, have fun.

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Of course they won't. This administration is going to crash and burn and it will be their own fault.

And then the Democrats will crash and burn because they didn't fix everything in under 2 years.

Just like every single time before.

[thilicen]

is it him? or is it the reanimated corpse of the brainworm he starved to death doing a ratatoullie on him?

If it was a real choice I'd be betting on the worm to outsmart him any day.

[Kaleredar]

Well the US did just start a trade war with the entire world so...

there is your answer.
Your now at war with the world, have fun.

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And then the Democrats will crash and burn because they didn't fix everything in under 2 years.

Just like every single time before.

If the dems get back into power they won’t have to deal with Trump again. And there’s no heir-apparent to Trump’s specific brand of bullshit and I don’t know if the GOP can muster one.

…Granted, I thought we were done with him the first time around…

[Gorsameth]

If the dems get back into power they won’t have to deal with Trump again. And there’s no heir-apparent to Trump’s specific brand of bullshit and I don’t know if the GOP can muster one.

…Granted, I thought we were done with him the first time around…

Trump is not the disease, he is a symptom. Pandora's box is open, someone else is going to rise and the cult will flock to a new figurehead because they NEED a god figure to give their life meaning.

[Nymrohd]

Trump is not the disease, he is a symptom. Pandora's box is open, someone else is going to rise and the cult will flock to a new figurehead because they NEED a god figure to give their life meaning.

I'd say it's not even that. The biggest issue is the political class (the significant majority of the GOP but a large number of Democrats as well) who are OK with not doing their job at all. Performative politics are unavoidable with the current media landscape but for most of them it is their ONLY job.

[SAY HER NAME]

I don't know if well ever get a person that can create the cult of personality around himself like Trump has but right wingers have been so thoroughly brainwashed it's going to be a pain to deal with for a while. Its going to be a repeat of Ralph Nader but with conspiracy theories so its going to be much worse.

Will the Candace Owens and Joe Rogans of the world disappear when Trump is no longer in power? I don't think so and their BS will eventually seep into the woven of politics if it hasnt already (look at how many people dont vaccinate at all and that idea didnt come from Trump but it has become essential in conservative circles)

I dont have a panacea of what dems need to do. I WANT them to build stuff and usher the future of the country with open arms, but this is assuming the regulationist faction doesnt win and we kill AI and other cool things via 1000 regulations

[Draco-Onis]

France's Macron calls for suspension of investment in US after tariffs

French President Emmanuel Macron called on Thursday for European companies to suspend planned investment in the United States after U.S. President Donald Trump announced sweeping global tariffs on American imports.
"Investments to come or investments announced in recent weeks should be suspended until things are clarified with the United States," Macron said during a meeting with French industry representatives.

Anyone who thought the world was just going to bend over and take it is probably brain dead, the backlash against the US was already growing this is going to put it on steroids. We are destroying our tourism industry now we have calls for complete suspension of foreign investments even if Trump walks this back we can't undo this, he's done permanent damage to the US.

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I'd say it's not even that. The biggest issue is the political class (the significant majority of the GOP but a large number of Democrats as well) who are OK with not doing their job at all. Performative politics are unavoidable with the current media landscape but for most of them it is their ONLY job.

Americans are so easy it's corporate greed and stupidity that's fucking everyone over. If Trump gave Americans free healthcare and affordable housing, most people in the US would make him king since life is so shit and that would be huge improvements to their everyday lives. Every politician knows this but they are too busy getting their corporate checks to do it.

[Rasulis]

They will argue that this will create jobs, as they force production in house. I really don't see this happening from an economic perspective.

The US is a service oriented economy, yet there will be a shift to become a manufacturing powerhouse? I don't think they've thought this entire thing through. That costs a lot of money and years of economic depression, because jobs have to shift to a completely different sector. It can happen, but gradually, not within four years, let alone one.

Maybe if the US opens the flood gate and allows a massive influx of immigrants. The other option is to go fully mechanized and automated. Otherwise, no.

[Xath]

yo the dudes who were the most knowledgeable about bird flu and were spending their time leading research/tracking got laid off as part of the gutting of HHS so i'm looking forward to dual-outbreaks of measles as that worsens and then bird flue on top of that.

shit's gonna be fire, fam.

Measels realistically won't become pandemic level there is still enough MMR penetration it's only likely to effect antivaxers and the allergic. Still fucking awful but not pandemic level. Bird flu on the other hand especially with the lunatic trying to get flocks to not be killed that is fucking terrifying.

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is it him? or is it the reanimated corpse of the brainworm he starved to death doing a ratatoullie on him?

So here's the thing there was no brainworm he pulled that bullshit out as a way to claim he couldn't be expected to pay alimony and hold a job. The scans have never been shown. It's honestly a impressive level of pure scum.

[Rasulis]

Measels realistically won't become pandemic level there is still enough MMR penetration it's only likely to effect antivaxers and the allergic. Still fucking awful but not pandemic level. Bird flu on the other hand especially with the lunatic trying to get flocks to not be killed that is fucking terrifying.

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So here's the thing there was no brainworm he pulled that bullshit out as a way to claim he couldn't be expected to pay alimony and hold a job. The scans have never been shown. It's honestly a impressive level of pure scum.

Talking about measles.

Dozens of free measles vaccine clinics close in Texas as federal funding is cut

Those clinics do free vaccination for other diseases also.

[david0925]

Trump is not the disease, he is a symptom. Pandora's box is open, someone else is going to rise and the cult will flock to a new figurehead because they NEED a god figure to give their life meaning.

this 100%

The core problem is 1/3 of the US can't be trusted to make their own financial decisions, let alone economic policies. Yet these people have the same voting power as actual knowledgeable professionals (or more, depending on where they live).

I understand I'm opening a whole can of worms about potential abuse, but most of these people should not be allowed to vote on any public offices ever again.

[KrayZ33]

this 100%

The core problem is 1/3 of the US can't be trusted to make their own financial decisions, let alone economic policies. Yet these people have the same voting power as actual knowledgeable professionals (or more, depending on where they live).

I understand I'm opening a whole can of worms about potential abuse, but most of these people should not be allowed to vote on any public offices ever again.

Sadly, It's not something we can actually strife forward to.
Just like we can't end the life of people who objectively deserve it, like Trump etc. or just the degenerate influencers that rip of people, harass them or whoever else.
Even though the world would be a better place for a moment, it would only take a generation until it becomes worse, because we allowed that.

Even if you'd implement something like a license for "proper, educated voting" it'll lead to that.

[D Luniz]

What’s their excuse gonna be when their super fancy formula that is totally so smart and cool… just leads to everything being vastly more expensive for your average every-day consumer? “Don’t worry, the formula is doing math! You just don’t understand its mathness!” really doesn’t mean jack shit when prices keep going up.

Like the part where they fucked up in all of this bullshit is that this is rather directly going to affect people and what they see that they’re paying every single day.

They’re not “passing tax cuts with this super complicated formula” that really just gives the tax cuts to the rich and not to anyone else and then sort of just passively and slowly drives up the cost of everything over a few years so nobody really notices it was directly caused by it, as is the typical Republican M.O.

They’re basically saying “look at this cool t-shirt I bought you that says ‘bulletproof’ in Latin, now watch this!” and then pulling out a gun and pointing it at you saying “why are you afraid? You obviously just don’t speak Latin!” before pulling the trigger.

They already are using it
That "there will be some pain" they keep dropping.

Considering the average American household can't handle a $400 emergency.

The democrats just need an ad saying that statistic after a video clip of Trump and his cabinet memebers saying that followed by "can you survive that pain?"

[Xyonai]

Either Trump's admin is forced to walk this shit back or DC's burning down by July. Like this is a phenomenally stupid idea enacted in the most phenomenally stupid way possible and Republicans are already seeing their unpopularity through special elections.

[D Luniz]

Either Trump's admin is forced to walk this shit back or DC's burning down by July. Like this is a phenomenally stupid idea enacted in the most phenomenally stupid way possible and Republicans are already seeing their unpopularity through special elections.

What's the over-under on the DC police just leaving the GOP members to their fate if another mob shows up?

[Draco-Onis]

Either Trump's admin is forced to walk this shit back or DC's burning down by July. Like this is a phenomenally stupid idea enacted in the most phenomenally stupid way possible and Republicans are already seeing their unpopularity through special elections.

There is no walking this back because even if they do they have crossed the rubicon, all these countries would just buy time but at the end they want nothing to do with the US. We've basically wiped our asses with every trade deal currently on the books for decades no one is going to trust us.

[korijenkins]

Either Trump's admin is forced to walk this shit back or DC's burning down by July. Like this is a phenomenally stupid idea enacted in the most phenomenally stupid way possible and Republicans are already seeing their unpopularity through special elections.

It really does feel like Wisconsin's Supreme Court election was the bellwether. To go from winning a state pretty comfortably while at a spending disadvantage (I believe anyway) to having a huge money advantage and basically getting dogwalked in a 5 month span is absolutely nuts.

That being said, I don't think DC will be burning down because it would require liberals to realize...

1: this shit isn't solvable through the political process
2: MAGA gun-toting clowns are largely obese old white guys who wouldn't do anything about DC burning down

Neither will happen because of how the Democratic Party operates. Tactical losses here and there to give the poors a belief they're actually getting a voice. Joe Crowley was well rewarded for taking the L in 2018.

And if you don't think the Dems actively rig their own process, need I remind you of super-delegates, Obama meddling in 2020's primaries, the vote counting app used in Iowa that was funded by the Buttigieg campaign (and mysteriously said he won when he didn't), 6 coin tosses in Iowa in 2016, etc etc. As they said, they're a private body and aren't obligated to have fair elections in their primaries, and they don't.

Liberals are only just waking up to the idea that most of the Democratic Party are worthless hacks who talk but don't walk. We're still very far away from any kind of general strike/revolt happening that manifests real change for the better.

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There is no walking this back because even if they do they have crossed the rubicon, all these countries would just buy time but at the end they want nothing to do with the US. We've basically wiped our asses with every trade deal currently on the books for decades no one is going to trust us.

Yeah that's the big issue here, really. We've more or less made it clear that the US is untrustworthy on any time frame longer than 4 years because its voters are stupid enough to elect unintelligent conmen without even the concepts of a plan on how to run the government or its economy.

You can't trust the Dems because they're feckless and useless, and you can't trust the Republicans because they're bootlickers at their core.

[Bwgmon]

And because it’s Nintendo, the price will never go down.

To be slightly fair there, as far as consoles go, that's the one thing that Nintendo tends to cave on if things are going sour. That's the culprit behind the Gamecube eventually dropping to $99, and the 3DS having $90 shaved off the tag about 6 months after release (with a pack of games given to early adopters as an apology) was also a move to try and increase demand.

I feel like if the Switch 2 starts out doing poorly, we'll see them make a big deal out of dropping the price the moment they can reasonably get away with it (ie, once Trump's administration and the tariffs are dead and buried)