Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Poopymonster]

Does anyone else here know the Team Four Star work Helsing Ultimate Abridged?

"But Major, now zhat zhey know of our plans-"

"Ah, Herr Doctor, but that iz the plan! Now that zhey know our plan, zhey will plan around our plan, and zo we zhall in turn plan around zhe plan zhat zhey are planning around our plan!"

"Your brilliance knows no bounds."

Why yes, I did pick a fat fucking Nazi to explain Trump's tariff strategy. How kind of you to notice.

Bitches love cannons.

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Manufacturing won't come back unless it is automated. And it won't happen for a good 10 years at a minimum. It isn't going to bring very many jobs back seeing as those companies do not want to pay US wages, deal with unions and the regulations around things like that. That was pretty much the only reason they left in the first place. If it costs a company, lets say, $30/hour per worker and it takes 500 workers to work in a factory that isn't automated within the US, and they can hire the same 500 workers and pay them $5/hour, even with the tariffs, they will literally still just keep the factories where they are at.

For the tariffs to actually bring anything actually back, they would have to be in a FAR higher range, something in the 60 - 90% range. Which would cause a severe depression and kill off a lot of other industries in the process.

It is delusional to think the jobs are going to come back in any actual amount other than a token amount.

Good thing those pesky unions are being fucked. And those regulations are being defanged. And the agency that investigates said regulations being broken is castrated.

[PACOX]

Yes, it's as dumb as imagined.

I think there's a little projection as well because who else knows more about tax evasion than Trump and his boys?

[Rasulis]

Are you saying Ronald Reagan would have approved of these tariffs? Because if not, it seems like a pointless, pedantic thing to get angry about.

Reagan would not have approved of Trump's sledgehammer approach to tariff. He did impose tariff on Japanese cars and electronics, Canadian lumbers, etc. The most famous one was a five-year duty, beginning at 45 percent, on Japanese motorcycles for the benefit of Harley Davidson. If he hadn't done that, Harley Davidson would have gone bankrupt.

A good reading for anybody that's interested.

Cato Institute Policy Analysis No. 107: The Reagan Record on Trade: Rhetoric vs. Reality

[Paranoid Android]

NEW: By a 5–4 vote, the Supreme Court LIFTS Judge Boasberg's restraining order against the deportation of migrants under the Alien Enemies Act. The majority holds that migrants must file habeas petitions where they're confined.

Liberals + BARRETT dissent.

https://bsky.app/profile/mjsdc.bsky..../3lmb2fh3xys2h

So if they are shipped to a shit stain judge in Louisiana or somewhere else, that person is screwed.

It's funny cause Stephen Miller and others just last week were openly saying removing distract judges. SCOTUS. did the job.

Edit: Very good thread below for the nuance of ruling.

https://bsky.app/profile/leahlitman..../3lmb54erask2o

[We are covfefe]

Cool so due process is dead now. Not that it mattered for them beforehand. Over/under before US civilians start disappearing en masse?

[Captain N]

Cool so due process is dead now. Not that it mattered for them beforehand. Over/under before US civilians start disappearing en masse?

Oh it's coming soon. I can almost guarantee the reason Trump is fighting having that guy from Maryland returned is because either A. He's Dead. B. He'll end up on every news station in the country to talk about the terrible conditions that Trump wants to send people he don't like to.

[tehdang]

https://bsky.app/profile/mjsdc.bsky..../3lmb2fh3xys2h

So if they are shipped to a shit stain judge in Louisiana or somewhere else, that person is screwed.

It's funny cause Stephen Miller and others just last week were openly saying removing distract judges. SCOTUS. did the job.

Edit: Very good thread below for the nuance of ruling.

https://bsky.app/profile/leahlitman..../3lmb54erask2o

And in the reverse, you can't just judge-shop in the most favorable districts until you get one that does a national injunction. And let me remind you that this is prior to an actual adversarial trial --- just gaining what you seek in form of injunctions masquerading as TROs.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...4a931_2c83.pdf

So there is established a period of notification so plaintiffs can challenge their AEA determination through habeus in the court with actual jurisdiction. Boasberg lacked it. Trump is also going to be violating a SCOTUS order if he tries to use the AEA in such a manner as its speed would deny aliens their ability to challenge via habeus. And the cases will continue in the proper courts so the AEA act challenges and appeals proceed in normal order!

Such a nuanced ruling is likely to trouble several screeching libs, who think any partial concurrence with the Trump administration and partial concurrence with lawyers for aliens is 100% wrong for allowing the lawyers to suffer a setback in their legal strategy.

[Rasulis]

Businessman and Barstool Sports founder David Portnoy revealed last week that due to President Donald Trump's trade war, he'd lost $7 million. He later said that the amount had grown.

"I haven’t even looked, but if I had to guess, I probably lost $20 million in the last 3 days. 10–15% of my net worth — poof," he said,

You get what you paid for.

[Edge-]

You get what you paid for.

if it isn't the consequences of my economically illiterate actions

[Tech614]

You get what you paid for.

Portnoy is a massive bullshit artist. He made a huge deal about Michigan boosters needing to step up and spend money after the QB situation was bad this year, tried to take credit for signing the #1 QB recruit in the country and turns out his NIL contract was 100% paid for by billionaire Larry Ellison without a dime of Portnoy's money.

So I doubt he lost anywhere near 20 mil, he def lost money everyone with any money in the market lost money but he is definitely bullshitting just for headlines cause hes an egomaniac.

He deserves to lose everything for the record lol.

[Breccia]

In the ongoing effort to prove he's the most narcissistic person to walk the planet, Trump orders $200 million in ads thanking himself and exempts them from DOGE review.

There was such "an unusual and compelling urgency" for this propaganda campaign that it could not be subject to competitive bidding rules, Trump officials say. Records show they also exempted the ads from review by Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

Trump's Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has budgeted up to $200 million for these ads so far. Speaking at a Conservative Political Action Conference dinner in February, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said the ad campaign was Trump's idea, and that he specifically asked her to thank him in the ads, which she does. "I want you to thank me. I want you to thank me for closing the border," she says Trump told her.

As the Associated Press has reported, the Trump administration quietly bypassed a competitive bidding process as it selected contractors for the lucrative ad campaign, because the president declared a national emergency at the southern border upon taking office.

"To aid in responding to this emergency, DHS requires an immediate domestic and international campaign to direct illegal aliens within the U.S. and its territories to leave immediately, and to discourage illegal immigration into the country," Trump officials wrote. They claimed that "any delay" in starting the ad campaign "will allow illegal border crossings to continue to rise."

"It's a National Emergency Lol. We need those ads of paid actors and paid staffers thanking Trump now, or Mexican rapsits!"

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I said a couple weeks back that people should be shooting Ice agents that don't Identify them selfs and try and detain people, Sadly I was vindicated on the idea. Because as bad for your legal status as shooting an agent is being kidnapped and shipped off for salve labour in a country your likely never to leave is far worse and the US is showing that's a real threat.

[PACOX]

Oh it's coming soon. I can almost guarantee the reason Trump is fighting having that guy from Maryland returned is because either A. He's Dead. B. He'll end up on every news station in the country to talk about the terrible conditions that Trump wants to send people he don't like to.

There will be restitution but sadly it usually comes much much later. The poor guy might be dead and gone 50 years down the line before the US formally apologizes and offere whatever kind of gesture to his surviving descendants. Justice eventually comes around but not on time. The administration knows they can stall until it's too late to personally hold them responsible.

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Portnoy is a massive bullshit artist. He made a huge deal about Michigan boosters needing to step up and spend money after the QB situation was bad this year, tried to take credit for signing the #1 QB recruit in the country and turns out his NIL contract was 100% paid for by billionaire Larry Ellison without a dime of Portnoy's money.

So I doubt he lost anywhere near 20 mil, he def lost money everyone with any money in the market lost money but he is definitely bullshitting just for headlines cause hes an egomaniac.

He deserves to lose everything for the record lol.

He certainly didn't. Some doesn't just lose $20 million in assets and not have to be placed on suicide watch unless those were just speculative assets or they are worth so much it doesn't matter. Its like saying I lost $20 million dollars because I didn't invest in Bitcoin as a toddler. Its performative woe is me that his audience eats up.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Where's that clip of the millionaire saying they deliberately orchestrate recessions so they can buy more stocks from the lower and middle class, consolidating even more wealth into the hands of the ultra wealthy, and that's how the US economy works?

Yeah, MAGA are dumbasses. This is no great reset, it's a way to force people to sell their stocks to the wealthy at a discount.

[Xath]

There will be restitution but sadly it usually comes much much later. The poor guy might be dead and gone 50 years down the line before the US formally apologizes and offere whatever kind of gesture to his surviving descendants. Justice eventually comes around but not on time. The administration knows they can stall until it's too late to personally hold them responsible.

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He certainly didn't. Some doesn't just lose $20 million in assets and not have to be placed on suicide watch unless those were just speculative assets or they are worth so much it doesn't matter. Its like saying I lost $20 million dollars because I didn't invest in Bitcoin as a toddler. Its performative woe is me that his audience eats up.

I mean if it's 10 to 15% of your net worth and you didn't sell yeah you deal with it. I didn't move everything out when I should have to long term cds so I'm leaving what's leftsit. As to whether that's a smart move at this point who the hell knows. I don't need the money right now so I'm letting it sit and I am sure as hell not watching it drop.

[Tech614]

Where's that clip of the millionaire saying they deliberately orchestrate recessions so they can buy more stocks from the lower and middle class, consolidating even more wealth into the hands of the ultra wealthy, and that's how the US economy works?

Yeah, MAGA are dumbasses. This is no great reset, it's a way to force people to sell their stocks to the wealthy at a discount.

The top 1% control 82% of shares on the stock market. There really isn't that much for them to consolidate at this point which is why even rich evil fucks are against what Drump is doing.

Drump is doing what he wanted the US to do since the late 80s, he was talking about this shit long before his political career. The idiot legitimately thinks trade deficits are a problem that needs fixing. You're giving him WAY too much credit with thinking this is some planned out scheme. This moron legitimately believes he can force countries to buy things they can't afford from the US.

[Muzjhath]

The top 1% control 82% of shares on the stock market. There really isn't that much for them to consolidate at this point which is why even rich evil fucks are against what Drump is doing.

Drump is doing what he wanted the US to do since the late 80s, he was talking about this shit long before his political career. The idiot legitimately thinks trade deficits are a problem that needs fixing. You're giving him WAY too much credit with thinking this is some planned out scheme. This moron legitimately believes he can force countries to buy things they can't afford from the US.

82% isn't enough for that type.

[Tech614]

82% isn't enough for that type.

So please show me all the mega rich fucks that are happy with this right now? Best you will be able to find is MAGA shit heads supporting it because they don't have a choice but to bow to their king.

There really isn't much to gain for them. The country has had too many depressions and recessions over the last 100 years where the rich consolidated most of the capital for them to gain anything meaningful from another financial crisis. At this point they gain most of their wealth by increasing stock value, which Drump is tanking.

[Gabriel]

So please show me all the mega rich fucks that are happy with this right now? Best you will be able to find is MAGA shit heads supporting it because they don't have a choice but to bow to their king.

There really isn't much to gain for them. The country has had too many depressions and recessions over the last 100 years where the rich consolidated most of the capital for them to gain anything meaningful from another financial crisis. At this point they gain most of their wealth by increasing stock value, which Drump is tanking.

So why do you think these hyper rich care if their wealth increases or not if there is nothing left for them to buy at this point?

[gondrin]

So why do you think these hyper rich care if their wealth increases or not if there is nothing left for them to buy at this point?

Because more.

No, really, that is the reason. To them, more is better. It is never enough and will never be enough so it always has to be more. And that more will bring them more power, in their eyes.

For most of them, it is a pathological thing that they cannot control in a sense. No, it isn't an excuse and is never to be used as one but for most people that are that wealthy, it is never about having "enough", it is about acquiring more. In the case of this, they want their companies to be the most valuable in the world. Musk aims for that with Tesla, SpaceX and the like. Zuckerberg wants to have the most valuable social media company in the world. And so on and so on.