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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    The beautiful idea here is a return to ordinary people buying showerheads they wish to purchase. The government's intrusion to make illegal certain showerheads does strike people wrong, and for good reason.

    But now that government agencies went in and did it, then I see no problem striking that out and going back to status quo ante bellum. Let people choose. The answer to "Who the fuck cares?" should literally be "The government chose to care; let's go back to having the government not care."
    Does that mean you are finally going to stop lying, and oppose his tariffs and the Electoral College?

    Or, do you not actually want the people to choose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    And sometimes I wish LGBT+ and gender identity cultural issues did not go against the website's rules to discuss. Especially since you consider this a "moral ground." It's a very pretty thing to believe that the other person has no moral ground to argue from, when it comes to subjects related to the regulation of shower heads!

    Let me state, for the record, that showerhead water flow regulations I do view as a little less government-critical-to-regulate as the claims against DDT, asbestos, and CFCs. The government is safe to let consumers choose. You haven't really challenged that, except by insinuation to "where water is a precious resource," which I presume would govern rationing of all water consumption, not making showerheads illegal.

    I thought it was obvious from the satire at reversing the regulations that people thought so little of them that institution/reversal was a trifling thing. Fine. Let's leave it at government nonintervention.

    I'm sure you can bring a proposal that addresses any water crisis by debating consumption limits, especially as applies to watering lawns and the whole. For the whole country, though? Hardly. Federal government regulations are not tailored to desert climates.

    Showerheads are such a small thing that reverting to a basic stance that government shouldn't be in the business of inserting itself between willing consumer and manufacturer is desirable. If there were a compelling reason for Obama to outlaw them, then I think that would be the debate. Freedom as a basic desirable outcome is a kind of default; government intervention in markets is the one that needs compelling reasons.

    Narrow application is an obvious consequence of a narrow subject matter.
    Bragging about hating gay people as much as you hate minorities is certainly a weird stance. But, here you are...

  2. #105282
    I enjoy Donald giving up the game that if bond markets start souring he'll flip flop like a bitch. Just give up any and all leverage like an idiot, because he is an idiot lol.

    SPEAKING OF IDIOTS

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/educat...e-steak-sauce/

    President Donald Trump’s education secretary repeatedly referred to artificial intelligence as “A1”—like the popular steak sauce—instead of “AI” during a panel on artificial intelligence in education.

    “I wish I could remember the source, but there’s a school system that’s going to start making sure that first graders or even pre-Ks have A1 teaching every year starting that far down in the grades,” Education Secretary Linda McMahon, 76, said at a summit put on by Silicon Valley investors in California on Tuesday.

    It wasn’t a one-off.

    A few moments later, McMahon said, “Kids are sponges. They just absorb everything. It wasn’t all that long ago that it was, ‘Oh, we’re gonna have internet in our schools, woo.’ Now, let’s see A1 and how can that be helpful.”

    Her fellow panelists, whose companies utilize AI, nodded along.

    Making the situation even more bizarre, McMahon pronounced “AI” correctly earlier during the same panel discussion. The Education Department didn’t respond to the Daily Beast’s request for comment on the secretary’s apparent mistake.

    McMahon, a Trump loyalist who led the Small Business Administration during his first term, was a controversial pick for education secretary given her lack of experience in education. She was formerly the chief executive of World Wrestling Entertainment, which she founded with now-estranged husband Vince McMahon.

    Last month, Trump signed an executive order to begin dismantling the Department of Education, arguing that education should be left entirely to the states.

    Back in February, he said that McMahon’s primary task in her role is to oversee the destruction of the agency she is leading.

    “I told Linda, ‘I hope you do a great job and put yourself out of a job,‘” Trump said. “I want her to put herself out of a job.”
    The DUI administration of incompetent sycophants continues to show their incompetence on a daily basis.

    Honestly this is so embarrassing that if she had any capacity for shame she'd probably resign. But she won't, obviously. She can do so, so, so much more damage to our education department, instead!

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    https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-h...ition-research

    The Trump administration has ordered the National Institutes of Health to study the physical and mental health effects of undergoing gender transition, according to an internal NIH memo obtained by NPR.

    The directive was shared with NPR by two current NIH staffers who did not want to be identified for fear of retribution. It is from acting NIH Director Mark Memoli, and says the NIH must study the impact of "social transition and/or chemical and surgical mutilation" among children who transition. Specifically, the White House wants the NIH to study "regret" and "detransition" among children and adults who have transitioned.
    Despite there already being a mountain of evidence that transitioning is overwhelmingly positive and beneficial, the Republican war on trans people existing continues with the weaponization of the NIH.

    Because I in no way, shape, or form expect a neutral or serious study out of this administration that has explicitly and publicly confirmed multiple times they are weaponizing the federal government against political opponents, including against trans people for existing.

    Truly, this administration is tackling the biggest problems facing America as the stock market chaos continues and our economic future looks grim.

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    https://bsky.app/profile/kyledcheney.../3lmkijpxd3t2u

    It looks like the government is refusing to release any info regarding the maryland father. Not his location, his status or anything really. The government isnt even willing to say if he is alive or not.

    So it begins.

    Its refusing to comply with court orders and there is a hearing for 1pm to address the noncompliance.
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  4. #105284
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I hate twitter but this is the only source I could find for this. Id use bluesky but I cant find it there yet

    https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1910674829029642546

    It looks like the government is refusing to release any info regarding the maryland father. Not his location, his status or anything really. The government isnt even willing to say if he is alive or not.

    So it begins.

    Its refusing to comply with court orders and there is a hearing for 1pm to address the noncompliance.
    Any comment on the subject matter? The interpretation of the SCOTUS ruling?

  5. #105285
    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Any comment on the subject matter? The interpretation of the SCOTUS ruling?
    What's there to comment on?

    The administration continues to ignore and flout lawful judicial orders time and time again because they do not respect the courts or act in good faith.

    Simple as.

  6. #105286
    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Any comment on the subject matter? The interpretation of the SCOTUS ruling?
    The government should not kidnap American citizens, send them to foreign countries and then wash their hands by saying that they are no longer in the US so nothing can be done.

  7. #105287
    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Did you know that a piece of metal can be regulated or unregulated based on the presence of other materials distinct from that metal
    You are allowed to buy uranium.
    You are allowed to buy gunpowder.
    You are not allowed to build a dirty bomb.

    This isn't exactly complicated to normal people.
    "stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
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    ENSIGN says he has not been told where Abrego Garcia is.

    XINIS is frustrated. Says this is basic information that she ordered be provided.

    ENSIGN: I do not have that information provided to me.

    https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1910740958926561317

    The government doesnt know where he is.

  9. #105289
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1910740958926561317

    The government doesnt know where he is.
    so it's like that last time that donald's republican administration kidnapped hundreds of kids and then lost them because they kept no records

    seems to be a pattern

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    https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...ys-2025-04-09/

    Panama said on Wednesday the United States recognized its sovereignty over the Panama Canal, despite tough rhetoric from Washington, as the two nations announced agreements to deepen U.S. military training in the Central American nation.

    U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth also gave a public nod to Panamanian sovereignty at the conclusion of the first visit by a Pentagon chief to Panama in decades. Hegseth said he sees the canal as key terrain that Panama would secure together with the U.S. - and not with China.
    The fact that this article exists highlights how fucking stupid this administration and ever DUI hire that makes it up is.

  10. #105290
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    so it's like that last time that donald's republican administration kidnapped hundreds of kids and then lost them because they kept no records

    seems to be a pattern

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    https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...ys-2025-04-09/



    The fact that this article exists highlights how fucking stupid this administration and ever DUI hire that makes it up is.
    The whole thing around the Panama Canal was a whim of Trump, he got bored so his sycophants need to spin this as a win in some shape or form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Any comment on the subject matter? The interpretation of the SCOTUS ruling?
    Let's see you answer those same questions.
    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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  12. #105292
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The government should not kidnap American citizens, send them to foreign countries and then wash their hands by saying that they are no longer in the US so nothing can be done.
    The government's motion(s) had nothing to do with that, and you know it. You're venturing into saying that lower court judges may defy Supreme Court rulings. For now, you haven't actually articulated an understanding that such a conflict exists.

    But I guess we're well past the judicial system as a system, and just into anointing district judges as kings and queens now.

  13. #105293
    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    The government's motion(s) had nothing to do with that, and you know it. You're venturing into saying that lower court judges may defy Supreme Court rulings. For now, you haven't actually articulated an understanding that such a conflict exists.

    But I guess we're well past the judicial system as a system, and just into anointing district judges as kings and queens now.
    this is such a weird projection i'm not sure how to even begin to response lol

    judge have always been able to prevent presidential administration from making unlawful actions. this isn't new, different, or unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    this is such a weird projection i'm not sure how to even begin to response lol

    judge have always been able to prevent presidential administration from making unlawful actions. this isn't new, different, or unique.
    It is pretty funny...because like 9 years ago the Republicans were using the defense that even if Trump tried to do some wacky bullshit as President...the checks and balances of the Judicial and Legislative Branches would keep him in line. And now, predictably, when those branches try to do exactly that...they're apparently trying to overthrow democracy.
    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

    - H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    The government's motion(s) had nothing to do with that, and you know it. You're venturing into saying that lower court judges may defy Supreme Court rulings. For now, you haven't actually articulated an understanding that such a conflict exists.

    But I guess we're well past the judicial system as a system, and just into anointing district judges as kings and queens now.
    That was literally the argument the government made in every single court hearing they had over this case. Its an implication that every single judge that looked at this case has reached to. Even the Supreme Court agreed that an implication of the Trump admin's argument was that they could deport american citizens to foreign countries and say there is nothing they can do.

    The only argu-ment the Government offers in support of its request, thatUnited States courts cannot grant relief once a deporteecrosses the border, is plainly wrong. See Rumsfeld v. Pa-dilla, 542 U. S. 426, 447, n. 16 (2004); cf. Boumediene v.Bush, 553 U. S. 723, 732 (2008). The Government’s argu-ment, moreover, implies that it could deport and incarcer-ate any person, including U. S. citizens, without legal con-sequence, so long as it does so before a court can intervene

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-24a949-order/

  16. #105296
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    If Iran gets invaded its prob going to be the nukes they have built. Trump has been talking about that a lot.


    BTW I hate that we have to do this whole "Trump has been talking a lot" like trying to divine the thoughts of our supreme leader chairman.
    We are for sure glassing Iran at some point. We've got like 1/3rd of our B-2s currently sitting at Deigo Garcia awaiting the order to pull the trigger.
    The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped form our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.

  17. #105297
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    That was literally the argument the government made in every single court hearing they had over this case. Its an implication that every single judge that looked at this case has reached to. Even the Supreme Court agreed that an implication of the Trump admin's argument was that they could deport american citizens to foreign countries and say there is nothing they can do.
    It's nowhere in what the government filed after the Supreme Court ruled and remanded. The government argues that the district judge is not complying with the SCOTUS decision, which necessarily is different from earlier times where there was no decision to reference.

    It should go without saying that when SCOTUS says "due regard for the deferenced owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs" does not mean "fuck them, brief me on all your steps by 9:30 scratch that 11:30 am." You're just missing or ignoring when judges beclown themselves.

    And in a follow-up, judge is starting to listen to reason by moving for next week. That's going in the right direction for compliance with SCOTUS.

  18. #105298
    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    It's nowhere in what the government filed after the Supreme Court ruled and remanded. The government argues that the district judge is not complying with the SCOTUS decision, which necessarily is different from earlier times where there was no decision to reference.

    It should go without saying that when SCOTUS says "due regard for the deferenced owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs" does not mean "fuck them, brief me on all your steps by 9:30 scratch that 11:30 am." You're just missing or ignoring when judges beclown themselves.

    And in a follow-up, judge is starting to listen to reason by moving for next week. That's going in the right direction for compliance with SCOTUS.
    It's incredible the lengths to which you'll go to argue,

    "Why yes, a simple request to track down someone the government took into custody is unreasonable and it shouldn't be easy for them to produce that information rapidly in response to a lawful request."

    Astounding.

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