Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[NineSpine]

Ultimately nothing comes of it, because the accusation was made up bullcrap to begin with. That's the part you're refusing to see. It doesn't matter if the court lapped up the bullshit enough to act on, it was still made up. And here we are, 6 years later where you're using that court action as something to validate the suspicions yet again.

It was bullshit from the start. Repeat it with me.

I said it was bullshit. What are you not understanding?

If someone says "I saw that he was accused of being a gang member" and you respond "No, the trump administration made that up" and the person has seen evidence that the guy was accused of this years ago and held because of it, you have just lost all credibility with that person and you have made our side look ignorant and ill informed. Being cocky and cavalier with the facts does not help us.

[PhaelixWW]

Yeah, you are just delusional about the technical knowledge of the average person. I don't know what else to tell you.

Maybe you can also teach them all how to speak Chinese and assemble a motorcycle, since we are just assuming everyone has a high aptitude for everything.

You think explaining the absolute basics of the idea of an internet address and a complex formula are on par with speaking Chinese and assembling a motorcycle?

And you have the temerity to call me delusional?

Ell. Oh. Ell. Zee.


Go to bed, kid; you're losing it.

[Kathandira]

I don't care what you do, what you want to hear, or how you move along. I care about solving a collective problem. We don't solve crime problems by "lol I just don't commit crime" or the anti-vaccine problem by "lol I just vaccinate". Your personal choices are immaterial to the problem. You don't matter.

So what is your solution? Remove algorithmic prediction and suggestions? Not happening. There is way too much money involved with it.

[NineSpine]

So what is your solution? Remove algorithmic prediction and suggestions? Not happening. There is way too much money involved with it.

From a legal perspective, I think we should remove section 230 protections for any content that is delivered via personalized algorithm. This already should be the case. Delivering content via personalized algorithm should be considered publishing, not platforming.

From a social perspective, my point is that if we want to defeat the right wing we need to strategize around the reality of the right wing propaganda ecosystem, not just chastise people for falling for it.

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You think explaining the absolute basics of the idea of an internet address and a complex formula are on par with speaking Chinese and assembling a motorcycle?

And you have the temerity to call me delusional?

Ell. Oh. Ell. Zee.

Go to bed, kid; you're losing it.

You need to get out and touch grass more, because you think the average person is going to understand what an IP address is. 20% of US adults don't even know how to use a computer.

[PhaelixWW]

You need to get out and touch grass more, because you think the average person is going to understand what an IP address is. 20% of US adults don't even know how to use a computer.

They understand the concept of an address. They understand the concept of a complex formula.

You're pretending like this is a graduate-level physics class.

Get over yourself already.

[NineSpine]

They understand the concept of an address. They understand the concept of a complex formula.

You're pretending like this is a graduate-level physics class.

Get over yourself already.

20% can't use a computer, and you think they have the technical skills to understand what an IP address is. It's an absolute joke. How the fuck are you even going to contextualize the concept of an IP address to someone who can't use a computer?

Leave the basement. Interact with real people.

[Sunseeker]

Ever wonder what it would take to have youtube start recommending political propaganda?

It really doesnt take much. Anything that is popular among 20-30 males will do it.

[Doomcookie]

This is why we lost, because Biden had a mental episode on live TV and instead of acknowledging it you say BUT TRUMP BUT TRUMP BUT TRUMP BUT TRUMP!!!!!!!!>>!!<!OJ!HUI!KHG!KJH!JKHK!JK!J!JKL OH MY GOD TRUMP DID YOU SEE TRUMP TRUMP IS CRAZYZZZZ LKSJDLKSDJLALKJSDJKLSAJLKSD TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!L!JK!J!JKL!LJK!JKLJ!KL!K:LK:L! TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!K:L!KL:!KL:KL!:KL:!

Are you okay?

[NineSpine]

Are you okay?

Are you incapable of dealing with the substance?

[Xath]

Me: Trump is an abhorrent fascist and the worst thing that has ever happened to America, but we need to be careful, stick to the facts, and have messaging that works if we want to defeat him.
YOU: OH MY GOD YOU LOVE TRUMP

People like you are why we lost.

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He was deported. He's from El Salvador.

This is really the problem. You have the right conclusion (this guy never should have been deported or even apprehended) but you don't know the case, the law, what the words even mean. That doesn't help us. You make us look stupid.

They didn't put him in just El Salvador they put him in a fucking prison that has been compared to a concentration camp. You know for someone who claims to dislike Trump you sure are doing a bang on impression of a magat

[PhaelixWW]

20% can't use a computer, and you think they have the technical skills to understand what an IP address is.

It requires literally no technical skill to understand the concept of an address.

Also, if they can't use a computer, I guess they don't need an explanation on how to avoid being fed content by an algorithm on one, then.

FFS.

It's an absolute joke.

Yes, your attempt at a "debate" is an absolute joke.

How the fuck are you even going to contextualize the concept of an IP address to someone who can't use a computer?

Leave the basement. Interact with real people.

I literally can't understand how you're this clueless. The concept of an address is something that anyone who is legally able to administer their own affairs is able to grasp.

[Doomcookie]

From a legal perspective, I think we should remove section 230 protections for any content that is delivered via personalized algorithm. This already should be the case. Delivering content via personalized algorithm should be considered publishing, not platforming.

From a social perspective, my point is that if we want to defeat the right wing we need to strategize around the reality of the right wing propaganda ecosystem, not just chastise people for falling for it.

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You need to get out and touch grass more, because you think the average person is going to understand what an IP address is. 20% of US adults don't even know how to use a computer.

Social media would die in a day.

Holy shit...

[Bwgmon]

Are you incapable of dealing with the substance?

Is that what that cacophony of spam was?

[NineSpine]

Is that what that cacophony of spam was?

I was making fun of someone who responds to everything with BUT TRUMP DID SOMETHING BAD.

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Social media would die in a day.

Holy shit...

Social media existed before this type of content delivery, and it could exist without it.

[Doomcookie]

Are you incapable of dealing with the substance?

Like I said, you seem to be losing it.

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I was making fun of someone who responds to everything with BUT TRUMP DID SOMETHING BAD.

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Social media existed before this type of content delivery, and it could exist without it.

Social media would be dead in a day.

[NineSpine]

They didn't put him in just El Salvador they put him in a fucking prison that has been compared to a concentration camp. You know for someone who claims to dislike Trump you sure are doing a bang on impression of a magat

ME: "Trump is a fascist and this guy never should have been apprehended let alone deported."
YOU: "YOU LOVE TRUMP!"

At this point you are just incoherent and clearly not reading anything I post.

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Like I said, you seem to be losing it.

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Socialedia would be dead in a day.

How did social media exist before this?

[Doomcookie]

ME: "Trump is a fascist and this guy never should have been apprehended let alone deported."
YOU: "YOU LOVE TRUMP!"

At this point you are just incoherent and clearly not reading anything I post.

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How did social media exist before this?

It really didn't.

[NineSpine]

It really didn't.

It really did. The earth is also round, and the sky is blue, and vaccines prevent disease. I can't debate with non-reality.

[Joszef Kiprich]

Are you incapable of dealing with the substance?

This substance:

BUT TRUMP BUT TRUMP BUT TRUMP BUT TRUMP!!!!!!!!>>!!<!OJ!HUI!KHG!KJH!JKHK!JK!J!JKL OH MY GOD TRUMP DID YOU SEE TRUMP TRUMP IS CRAZYZZZZ LKSJDLKSDJLALKJSDJKLSAJLKSD TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!L!JK!J!JKL!LJK!JKLJ!KL!K:LK:L! TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!K:L!KL:!KL:KL!:KL:!

I can understand why

[Doomcookie]

It really did. The earth is also round, and the sky is blue, and vaccines prevent disease. I can't debate with non-reality.

The idea that getting rid of Section 230 for anything offering curated content means social media dies.

We already saw what happens, there were lawsuits that led to Section 230 being made.