Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[NineSpine]

Your straw mans don't constitute their words.

When you were directed to provide quotes, you couldn't seem to pull it off.

Care to provide them?

People who were saying that the Trump administration made up tht Garcia was accused of being a gang member were either making shit up or didn't know the facts. Endus has been quite explicit in his derision toward ignorant normies.

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By my nearest estimation, more than a million deaths

They think Covid was no big deal, so don't count on it.

[Doomcookie]

People who were saying that the Trump administration made up tht Garcia was accused of being a gang member were either making shit up or didn't know the facts. Endus has been quite explicit in his derision toward ignorant normies.

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They think Covid was no big deal, so don't count on it.

Hence the number I came up with.

Care to provide the quotes? There's all sorts of evidence that Trump and his team make shit up. Is that any different than those who say he may have killed a bunch of kids?

[Kathandira]

I dont mind that people get stupid views from social media, what I do mind is the fall of mainstream media. Like I hate Fox News with a burning passion but if you compare it to newsmax or OAN, its night and day. Fox News tries to be cheeky or play off stuff as a joke, OANN just repeats the propaganda like if it was north korea.

Mainstream media did a decent job in filtering the information and giving people what they best understood as the truth based on their own biases. And if they got stuff wrong, they would issue corrections and/or get sued, most of the time both. Remember when Fox News had to pay one of the largest settlements for defamation ever? There is a cost to lies for mainstream media. People like Joe Rogan, Candace Owen can repeat lies nonstop and spread their nonsense consequence free

In my own unrealistic and extreme opinion...News should not be about opinions. I would be quite happy if all the news talk shows disappeared tomorrow. I don't want to hear the broad casters talk about the news, I just want them to report it.

But as prefaced, I know this won't happen. Too much money involved in it.

[SAY HER NAME]

In my own unrealistic and extreme opinion...News should not be about opinions. I would be quite happy if all the news talk shows disappeared tomorrow. I don't want to hear the broad casters talk about the news, I just want them to report it.

But as prefaced, I know this won't happen. Too much money involved in it.

I mean I obviously have things I would like to be better but seeing the alternatives I cant help but miss it.

I understand now that broad casters were protecting us from the likes of Joe Rogan, Candace Owens and even their own hosts who were reigned in by the news company. They were heroes and now we lost them.

We get to live through the most popular podcasts in the world repeat anti vax propaganda to millions of people.

[NineSpine]

Hence the number I came up with.

Care to provide the quotes? There's all sorts of evidence that Trump and his team make shit up. Is that any different than those who say he may have killed a bunch of kids?

I don't think "They make shit up so Ill make shit up" is a good idea.

[Xyonai]

This is great news, and I am not sure Nvidia would have had the incentive to do so without the tariffs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidi...u5u0WJFXdo4jh8

Says a lot that it took almost a week of Trump's stupid trade war for you to crawl back with this limp positive article about something Nvidia was planning to do before this Admin even started making policy.

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Did you know that measles can have serious longterm health effects including brain damage, blindness, and deafness?

Wonderful that parents are rolling the dice on that because they believe conspiracy theories about vaccines pushed by members of this administration frequently.

Measles can also fuck with your immune system and ruin its 'memory', so to speak. So it can essentially negate vaccines for -other- dangerous diseases, it's kinda fucked up.

[Edge-]

Says a lot that it took almost a week of Trump's stupid trade war for you to crawl back with this limp positive article about something Nvidia was planning to do before this Admin even started making policy.

hey now, they're just continuing the trend of donald starting a completely unnecessary fight, getting another country/company to agree to do things they had already agreed to do, and then do a shitty dishonest victory lap as if they'd accomplished anything beyond some self-inflicted chaos

[Doomcookie]

I don't think "They make shit up so Ill make shit up" is a good idea.

But, I'm not seeing quotes of people making a bunch of shit up.

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This is great news, and I am not sure Nvidia would have had the incentive to do so without the tariffs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidi...u5u0WJFXdo4jh8

So, how much have Trump's tariffs cost you in stock value?

[Rasulis]

JD Vance says Europe should have done more to stop Iraq War

EU, Canada and Australia took US intel information at face value, and sent their young men to fight alongside ours, and Vance said they should have done more to stop the war? Things been weird lately. However, as tacky goes, that's in a class all by itself.

[NineSpine]

But, I'm not seeing quotes of people making a bunch of shit up.

Good thing I'm not your research assistant.

[Tech614]

JD Vance says Europe should have done more to stop Iraq War

EU, Canada and Australia took US intel information at face value, and sent their young men to fight alongside ours, and Vance said they should have done more to stop the war? Things been weird lately. However, as tacky goes, that's in a class all by itself.

Yea, blaming other countries when the US could of just not invaded Iraq and it never happens. A republican classic.

[Doomcookie]

Good thing I'm not your research assistant.

So, just like Trump and the DoJ, just making shit up.
/s

We've gone full circle. Your entire argument is predicated on shit you swear other people were saying. But, you came up empty.

[Edge-]

JD Vance says Europe should have done more to stop Iraq War

EU, Canada and Australia took US intel information at face value, and sent their young men to fight alongside ours, and Vance said they should have done more to stop the war? Things been weird lately. However, as tacky goes, that's in a class all by itself.

man, fuck this dumb idiot stupid guy so much

fuck every american voting for this stupid, dumb ass ticket

IN OTHER NEWS - https://newrepublic.com/post/194012/...-whistleblower

Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency is very likely stealing sensitive labor data from the National Labor Relations Board, according to a whistleblower from inside the agency.

NPR reports that a whistleblower reached out to Congress and other federal watchdogs, alarmed about what they saw happen when DOGE employees gained access to the NLRB’s internal systems. Ostensibly, the DOGE staffers said they were reviewing the agency’s data to comply with the Trump administration’s new policies, as well as to cut costs and increase efficiency.

But, according to the whistleblower report, the NLRB’s technical staff were shocked to see a sharp increase of data leaving the agency and DOGE employees covering their tracks. The NLRB holds sensitive information about unions, legal cases about workplace complaints, and corporate secrets, data which, according to four labor law experts who spoke to NPR, is highly sensitive and should rarely, if ever, leave the agency.

“I can’t attest to what their end goal was or what they’re doing with the data,” the whistleblower, Daniel Berulis, told NPR. “But I can tell you that the bits of the puzzle that I can quantify are scary.… This is a very bad picture we’re looking at.”

A former White House cybersecurity official, Jake Braun, told NPR that a foreign actor could be involved in the increase in data leaving the agency.

This is legit 5-alarm fire shit on top of the whole "This administration is actively deporting people wrongfully and refusing to bring them back while also openly discussing deporting native-born US citizens" which is a separate 5-alarm fire.

People aren't panicking enough about this shit. This is very serious, unlike weird arguments about algorithms.

[Xyonai]

JD Vance says Europe should have done more to stop Iraq War

EU, Canada and Australia took US intel information at face value, and sent their young men to fight alongside ours, and Vance said they should have done more to stop the war? Things been weird lately. However, as tacky goes, that's in a class all by itself.

JD Vance is such a remarkably contemptible freak it's impressive how much it stands out against his peers, and even then his obsessive hate-boner for Europe is weird as hell.

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man, fuck this dumb idiot stupid guy so much

fuck every american voting for this stupid, dumb ass ticket

IN OTHER NEWS - https://newrepublic.com/post/194012/...-whistleblower



This is legit 5-alarm fire shit on top of the whole "This administration is actively deporting people wrongfully and refusing to bring them back while also openly discussing deporting native-born US citizens" which is a separate 5-alarm fire.

People aren't panicking enough about this shit. This is very serious, unlike weird arguments about algorithms.

I feel like this is something we (as in the political internet at large) talked about when they first dug their grubby little claws into this department, and now the worries have more or less been confirmed.

One can assume goal is to just have leverage over American companies to keep them in line, and to keep tabs on unions as legal targets.

[Endus]

Fair that "rogue" loads the term, so let me walk that back.

If TikTok hires people to distribute videos to users based on those user's preferences, and an employee sees that a kid is watching dangerous content and decides to send them more dangerous content, is TikTok liable?

Always new goalposts to be set rather than admit your argument doesn't hold up.

Hiring staff to curate content for users would make them a "publisher".

You continue to say "if platforms acted as publishers, we'd treat them as publishers", and that's not an argument. Because that's not what's happening. It's tiresome having to point out your "arguments" boil down to tautologies.

Yes, if an orange looked and tasted like and was genetically identical to an apple, it'd be an apple, not an orange. That doesn't mean oranges are apples, which is what you're supposedly trying to prove, here.

[Mayhem]

How though? What exactly changed? Did they suddenly become more media literate?

I think there is a difference between talking about bad stuff and then doing worse stuff. For example, not even fox news is able to ignore a crashing stock market. The right-wing talking heads continue to lie, of course, but what is going on is vastly different from what Trump promised. There's also a difference between deporting invaders and picking students off the streets in unmarked cars.

[Edge-]

IN OTHER NEWS - https://newrepublic.com/post/194012/...-whistleblower



This is legit 5-alarm fire shit on top of the whole "This administration is actively deporting people wrongfully and refusing to bring them back while also openly discussing deporting native-born US citizens" which is a separate 5-alarm fire.

People aren't panicking enough about this shit. This is very serious, unlike weird arguments about algorithms.

I feel this bit is supremely important in this reporting -

According to Berulis, right after DOGE gained access to the NLRB, a Russia-based I.P. address tried to log in. While that attempt was blocked, it happened to be using one of the new DOGE accounts and had the correct name and password.

Berulis also said DOGE employees requested accounts that would allow them to read, copy, and alter NLRB data, the highest level of access in the agency. When one IT staffer suggested a streamlined way to set up the accounts that would track DOGE’s actions, all I.T. employees were told to stay out of DOGE’s way.

Why would there immediately be an attempt to remotely access the database using authentic login credentials from Russia?

This is a rhetorical question.

Again, five alarm fire shit.

[Xath]

The cynic in me almost wants to believe that someone in The Regime knows that punishing the school by withholding funding will result in protests. With protests comes all the reason they need to send in ICE to start rounding up students and sending them off to concentration camps.

Nah because a lot of those students are sons and daughters of the elite pretext to push the insurrection act absolutely. Disappearing Ivy students especially legacies would massively backfire. Disappearing random protesters is much different than doing it to someone with money behind them.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I think there is a difference between talking about bad stuff and then doing worse stuff. For example, not even fox news is able to ignore a crashing stock market. The right-wing talking heads continue to lie, of course, but what is going on is vastly different from what Trump promised. There's also a difference between deporting invaders and picking students off the streets in unmarked cars.

He did "Bad Stuff" when he was President last time. He did "Bad Stuff" in the 4 years he wasn't President. So, why is the "Bad Stuff" he's doing know able to reach them when before they just didn't have the media literacy to understand? What changed for these people?

they're being the told the same kind of lies about those students getting picked off the streets. They supported terrortists, etc. The economy is doing bad because all the other countries are "anti-american"

[Rasulis]

Nah because a lot of those students are sons and daughters of the elite pretext to push the insurrection act absolutely. Disappearing Ivy students especially legacies would massively backfire. Disappearing random protesters is much different than doing it to someone with money behind them.

So far 12 of Harvard international students have lost their visas with no explanation. US wide, at least 600 spread over 30 universities have lost their visas. This used to be a very rare event. Normal under Trump.

SQ bookings from US to other countries are down this summer. Primarily because International Students are concerned that they may not be allowed to come back in if they go home for summer vacation.