Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[En Sabah Nur]

He’s going to say how nobody loved the pope more than him and how he was the pope’s favorite president ever and how the pope would want him to ban the illegals and anyway here are how liberals are ruining America.

As of a couple of hours ago, he's only said "Rest in Peace Pope Francis! May God Bless him and all who loved him!"

Don't think he cares enough about the Pope to even bother with more than that, honestly.

[Kaleredar]

As of a couple of hours ago, he's only said "Rest in Peace Pope Francis! May God Bless him and all who loved him!"

Don't think he cares enough about the Pope to even bother with more than that, honestly.

True enough but trump rarely wastes an opportunity to make something about himself.

[PhaelixWW]

Hmm. Interesting concept.

...paid by who, exactly?

Maybe... seizing bank accounts of "immigrants"? Ransacking their houses for art, jewels, and other valuables?

Maybe those doing the ransacking can wear some really spiffy uniforms made by Hugo Boss.

[Breccia]

Don't think he cares enough about the Pope to even bother with more than that, honestly.

The lack of the word "Biden" and because it wasn't 2AM suggests he didn't write that himself.

Incidentally, Biden did more than Trump. You know, in keeping with history.

It is with great sadness that Jill and I learned of the passing of His Holiness Pope Francis. He was unlike any who came before him. Pope Francis will be remembered as one of the most consequential leaders of our time and I am better for having known him. For decades, he served the most vulnerable across Argentina and his mission of serving the poor never ceased. As Pope, he was a loving pastor and challenging teacher who reached out to different faiths. He commanded us to fight for peace and protect our planet from a climate crisis. He advocated for the voiceless and powerless. He made all feel welcome and seen by the Church. He promoted equity and an end to poverty and suffering across the globe. And above all, he was a Pope for everyone. He was the People's Pope - a light of faith, hope, and love.

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Maybe... seizing bank accounts of "immigrants"? Ransacking their houses for art, jewels, and other valuables?

Maybe those doing the ransacking can wear some really spiffy uniforms made by Hugo Boss.

I get the parallel. But my point is, this is yet another time Trump yells in the camera "I want to give you Americans free money!" that, to date, has a zero point negative zero success rate. DOGE? Nothing. Mexico paying for the wall? Mexico didn't even pay for coffee. Tariffs boost the economy? Didn't work last time, then a million Americans died.

Trump saying "reparations!" means less than nothing. Migrants have nothing, and migrants pay taxes. The countries of origin won't pay. And Trump won't pay out of US taxpayer funds because, well, they're all going to the tax cut for the rich. The only people stupid enough to believe this "reparations!" bit are people as senile or retarded as Trump, or as brainwashed into blind support as @tehdang who I am just going to predict won't mention this topic in any way, let along negatively.

[PhaelixWW]

I get the parallel. But my point is, this is yet another time Trump yells in the camera "I want to give you Americans free money!" that, to date, has a zero point negative zero success rate. DOGE? Nothing. Mexico paying for the wall? Mexico didn't even pay for coffee. Tariffs boost the economy? Didn't work last time, then a million Americans died.

Trump saying "reparations!" means less than nothing. Migrants have nothing, and migrants pay taxes. The countries of origin won't pay. And Trump won't pay out of US taxpayer funds because, well, they're all going to the tax cut for the rich. The only people stupid enough to believe this "reparations!" bit are people as senile or retarded as Trump, or as brainwashed into blind support as @tehdang who I am just going to predict won't mention this topic in any way, let along negatively.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the idea is that you get your cultists used to the idea of free money first, really make them feel like they're owed it, get them all riled up, then you tell them who "unfairly" has said money.

It's easier for people to start feeling like they deserve that money if they're not being forced to admit that it's being taken away from someone else until they already feel like it's theirs.

Whether they actually have money or not is irrelevant, because the fascists would get what they want.

[Breccia]

feeling like they deserve that money

The fact that Trump, of all people, is selling this message proves just how divorced from reality Trump supporters are. The man doesn't pay people he contractually owes. For him to say "this other person owes you money" should be met with laughter, not credibility.

[Iphie]

The lack of the word "Biden" and because it wasn't 2AM suggests he didn't write that himself.

Incidentally, Biden did more than Trump. You know, in keeping with history.

Biden is a Catholic though isn't he? Trump is...well I wouldn't want to tarnish the good name of atheists but I'd be really surprised if he isn't, so I'm not surprised Biden would say more.

[Breccia]

I'm not surprised Biden would say more.

There's a parable about good Samaritans that applies here. Simply put, people pretend Trump is Christian but they know the truth.

[gondrin]

Hmm. Interesting concept.

...paid by who, exactly?

The same people who are paying the tariffs.

[Draco-Onis]

Biden is a Catholic though isn't he? Trump is...well I wouldn't want to tarnish the good name of atheists but I'd be really surprised if he isn't, so I'm not surprised Biden would say more.

Well Trump does believe in god it's just that god is himself so technically not an atheist.

[gondrin]

I wish I could find the article but it's buried since there is so many similar events, but it was a non profit that wasn't under the government. DOGE tried to get into their buildings their private security would not let them in so they called the cops. The federal agents forced themselves into the building and kicked everyone out including the private security.

I believe their case is one of many before the court that they said could give Trump the power to get rid of Powell. My point is do not put it past him to do it by force in a similar way because so far no one has been able to stop him.

I know what non-profit you are talking about. The USADF(United States African Development Foundation). The difference here being is that the Federal Reserve has far stronger security and cannot just be forcefully entered. And unlike the USADF, there are no appointees of DOGE, Musk or Trump in the Federal Reserve.

I expect Trump to try something but, as we can see today, even the threat of it is causing the markets to basically tank. Actually doing it will cause pretty much a major crash similar to what happened during the Housing market bust. And that isn't even including the bond market pretty much collapsing seeing as that is far more affected by the workings of the Fed than the stock market.

The kicker is, if the bond market collapses, the government cannot borrow money and would also be forced to pay back money that it cannot.

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So, here is something. Kristi Noem, the head of the DHS, pretty much got robbed at a restaurant. Items included $3k in cash, her drivers license, medication, apartment keys, her DHS keycard, passport and blank checks.

Talk about a major fuckup there.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/21/polit...len/index.html

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem fell victim to a thief while eating dinner at a downtown Washington, DC, restaurant Sunday night, the secretary confirmed Monday.

Noem, who was asked about the theft at the White House Easter Egg Roll, acknowledged the incident and said the matter has not been resolved.

The Secret Service, which provides security for Noem, reviewed security camera footage at the restaurant and saw an unknown white male wearing a medical mask steal her bag and leave the restaurant, a law enforcement source said.

The thief got away with Noem’s driver’s license, medication, apartment keys, passport, DHS access badge, makeup bag, blank checks, and about $3,000 in cash.

The Secret Service has launched an investigation to trace any use of Noem’s financial instruments, the person added.

[We are covfefe]

Imagine being the head of an agency and getting robbed by essentially a petty thief.

[gondrin]

Imagine being the head of an agency and getting robbed by essentially a petty thief.

Oh, it isn't just that she is a head of an agency. It is that she is the head of an agency that is literally in charge of security for the nation. The Department of Homeland Security.

It would be the same if Kash Patel got robbed while he was looking away.

Only the best folks. Only the best.

[Breccia]

an unknown white male wearing a medical mask

What an unusual development this is: a crime not committed by a Trump supporter.

[gondrin]

So, China taking a play right out of Trump's own playbook. They are actively threatening anyone that "appeases" Trump in trade deals that would ultimately hurt China.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...360de1bc&ei=34

[Tech614]

Bold of you to assume rules and facts are going to stop Trump. He can do what he did with other agencies he can remove him by force and ban him from the building. I forget which non profit which had nothing to do with the government he did that to.

If Trump could have done that to Powell he would of already. Clearly something is making it impossible which is why he is crying about it.

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So, here is something. Kristi Noem, the head of the DHS, pretty much got robbed at a restaurant. Items included $3k in cash, her drivers license, medication, apartment keys, her DHS keycard, passport and blank checks.

Talk about a major fuckup there.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/21/polit...len/index.html

Who the fuck just walks around with 3k in cash?

[Mekh]

Who the fuck just walks around with 3k in cash?

No worries, she just accepted a cash bribe is all.

[Kaleredar]

If Trump could have done that to Powell he would of already. Clearly something is making it impossible which is why he is crying about it.

It’s possible his flunkies, knowing that this is one of the few safeguards against Trump totally imploding everything, are actually telling him that he can’t do anything about Powell, even if in theory there was some backdoor weird way he could, as a sort of spineless form of passive opposition where they don’t actually have to be perceived as going against him but nonetheless stop him from doing this terrible, stupid, no-good idea.

[gondrin]

So hey, here is something. Trump's administration is getting the Trumpian treatment of being ignored after stating they want something done.

New York is basically ignoring Trump's Transportation Secretary order to remove the congestion pricing that is in effect on the busiest parts of Manhattan. They are now going to ask again a month from now to have it removed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fe...2ea9182c&ei=16

The Trump administration has given New York another month to cease its congestion toll after the state ignored a Sunday deadline to shut down the $9 fee for most drivers coming into the busiest part of Manhattan.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, in a Monday letter to New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, said the state risks losing federal funding and approvals for certain projects from the Federal Highway Administration.

The missive gives New York officials another 30 days to stop collecting the toll — or at least explain why they're not breaking the law by continuing with the program after the government revoked its federal approval in February.

“The federal government sends billions to New York — but we won’t foot the bill if Governor Hochul continues to implement an illegal toll to backfill the budget of New York’s failing transit system,” Duffy said in a statement after issuing the letter. “We are giving New York one last chance to turn back or prove their actions are not illegal.”

Hochul’s office didn’t immediately respond to an email seeking comment Monday. Spokespersons for the Democrat and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, the state agency overseeing the tolls, confirmed Sunday that its system of traffic cameras continues to collect the fee assessed on most cars entering the borough below Central Park.

The fee, which began Jan. 5, is meant to reduce traffic jams and raise billions of dollars in revenue for New York’s subways, commuter trains and public buses.

But President Donald Trump, a native New Yorker whose namesake Trump Tower and other properties are within the congestion zone, had vowed to kill the plan as soon as he took office.

After first rescinding federal approval earlier this year, Duffy called the program “a slap in the face to working class Americans and small business owners," and initially gave New York until March 21 to stop charging the toll.

The MTA challenged Duffy’s decision in federal court and Duffy subsequently pushed the deadline back by a month, to April 20.

The toll varies depending on type of vehicle and time of day and comes on top of tolls drivers already pay to cross bridges and tunnels into Manhattan.

Drivers of most passenger cars pay $9 to enter Manhattan south of Central Park on weekdays between 5 a.m. and 9 p.m. and on weekends between 9 a.m. and 9 p.m. During off hours, the toll will be $2.25 for most vehicles.

Other big cities around the world, including London and Stockholm, have long had similar fees to reduce traffic congestion.

This is what I am talking about when Trump tries to do something to the states that the states are in direct control of and they don't care what this administration does. They will basically ignore them and tell them to go fuck off.