Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Templar 331]

I wouldn’t be accusing other people of trolling when your schtick is telling people that you know better than them how they voted.

If you always thought judges were above the law, you should’ve spoken up when the lefty line was that nobody was above the law.

Quick question on who's above the law. Could Trump shoot someone on 5th ave? I mean pull a gun out and shoot them in the face while just walking down the street. Could he do it? And if he did what would happen to him?

I want you to answer these questions before spouting off about someone not being above the law.

[Shpriest]

I wouldn’t be accusing other people of trolling when your schtick is telling people that you know better than them how they voted.

Are you really telling me you voted Harris? Gtfo you fascist weasel.

[Breccia]

If you always thought judges were above the law

I see you've moved to "judges" to try to avoid the blatant hypocrisy. Too bad nobody is buying it. You still voted for a convicted felon under investigation for stealing top secret documents, then lying about it. He's also a terrorist and a dictator, which also didn't stop you. At this point, you can either accept the law means nothing for anyone, or that Trump is somehow special, or admit hypocrisy. None of these are redeeming.

[tehdang]

Are you really telling me you voted Harris? Gtfo you fascist weasel.

1. Tells me who I voted for. 2. Calls me a fascist weasel when I point out that it's trolling.

Yeah I think we're done here.

Quick question on who's above the law. Could Trump shoot someone on 5th ave? I mean pull a gun out and shoot them in the face while just walking down the street. Could he do it? And if he did what would happen to him?

I want you to answer these questions before spouting off about someone not being above the law.

Could he do it? I don't really think he walks around the streets of new york with a gun. I bet Teddy Roosevelt could? I also have issues thinking he could hit a target. Weird hypothetical, I'm sure grounded on the humorous manner in which Trump described how some supporters always support him.

The question is whether a judge is above a law. I gather judges are, and it only depends on who is constitutionally and statutorily running the justice department. Now, I guess you're admitting that judges are above the law, but also want to start some hypotheticals about all the other people that are above the law.

[NineSpine]

1. Tells me who I voted for. 2. Calls me a fascist weasel when I point out that it's trolling.

Yeah I think we're done here.

Could he do it? I don't really think he walks around the streets of new york with a gun. I bet Teddy Roosevelt could? I also have issues thinking he could hit a target. Weird hypothetical, I'm sure grounded on the humorous manner in which Trump described how some supporters always support him.

The question is whether a judge is above a law. I gather judges are, and it only depends on who is constitutionally and statutorily running the justice department. Now, I guess you're admitting that judges are above the law, but also want to start some hypotheticals about all the other people that are above the law.

Here is a hypothetical: What if Trump pardoned multiple child abusing sex offenders who also beat police officers? Wait, that actually happened.

[Veggie50]

But that isn't what happens when they say the stock market lost 10T.
The total value of the market dropped by 10T. Not that 10T worth of shares were sold. Some were sold obv to cause the price drops but not 10T worth.

The market dropping by 10T doesn't mean 10T worth of money was cashed out.

If 100 people hold 1 share worth 10 bucks the stock is worth 100x10 = 1.000.
one sells his share for 9 bucks.

100 people now hold 1 share worth 9 bucks. 100x9 = 900
The market lost 100 bucks, but only 9 bucks changed hands.

I 100% agree with you on this.

Saying “the stock market” lost money is wrong by definition, the stock market doesn’t have any money.

What they do is speculate on the value the stocks on the stock market represent, IF all stocks could be sold at their current price. Not taking into account that selling a stock lowers its price.

It’s the same reason I dislike expressing Musks worth as his stock portfolio. If he started selling his Tesla shares, Tesla plummets, making the rest of the shares worth less.

[Shpriest]

1. Tells me who I voted for. 2. Calls me a fascist weasel when I point out that it's trolling.

Yeah I think we're done here.

I'm just holding up the mirror. I know you cant stand what you are seeing, its disgusting, I agree, but that's entirely on you. Now keep running you fucking coward.

[NineSpine]

I 100% agree with you on this.

Saying “the stock market” lost money is wrong by definition, the stock market doesn’t have any money.

What they do is speculate on the value the stocks on the stock market represent, IF all stocks could be sold at their current price. Not taking into account that selling a stock lowers its price.

It’s the same reason I dislike expressing Musks worth as his stock portfolio. If he started selling his Tesla shares, Tesla plummets, making the rest of the shares worth less.

He doesn't need to sell the shares. He can leverage their value to take out loans.

[Veggie50]

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He doesn't need to sell the shares. He can leverage their value to take out loans.

That is neither here nor there.

While a bank will allow you to take out loans due to the shares, they will not give out loans equal to your net worth. Its always just a fraction.

[Templar 331]

Could he do it? I don't really think he walks around the streets of new york with a gun. I bet Teddy Roosevelt could? I also have issues thinking he could hit a target. Weird hypothetical, I'm sure grounded on the humorous manner in which Trump described how some supporters always support him.

The question is whether a judge is above a law. I gather judges are, and it only depends on who is constitutionally and statutorily running the justice department. Now, I guess you're admitting that judges are above the law, but also want to start some hypotheticals about all the other people that are above the law.

Holy tap dancing Christ! You typed all of this without answering the question. I shouldn't be surprised but wow I am.

No, the question is who is above the law not was this judge above the law. You are constantly misrepresenting the facts to paint this judge as being on the wrong side of the law while also supporting a wanna be dictator who has REPEATEDLY shown the rules don't apply to him.

You sir are a hypocrite.

[Toho]

Was this judge charged with an actual crime to be arrested for?

[gondrin]

They are being charged with harboring an illegal immigrant(a crime) or hindering the active enforcement of immigration laws by purposefully delaying or otherwise trying to misdirect federal officers otherwise known as obstruction(a crime).

If they are guilty of it, they should get the same punishment as anyone else.

However, for all intent and purposes, ICE shouldn't be allowed to go into courthouses to do anything like what is happening without the express permission of the local authorities(city hall or board of trustees for towns and villages) AND the Judge themselves should know about it ahead of time.

[Gabriel]

Was this judge charged with an actual crime to be arrested for?

Don't be silly. You don't have to be charged with anything to be taken into captivity in Trump's US.

[Toho]

They are being charged with harboring an illegal immigrant(a crime) or hindering the active enforcement of immigration laws by purposefully delaying or otherwise trying to misdirect federal officers otherwise known as obstruction(a crime).

If they are guilty of it, they should get the same punishment as anyone else.

However, for all intent and purposes, ICE shouldn't be allowed to go into courthouses to do anything like what is happening without the express permission of the local authorities(city hall or board of trustees for towns and villages) AND the Judge themselves should know about it ahead of time.

I don't think there was enough time for a proper investigation and evidence gathering.
If that's the case merely being accused or using a loose definition of this crime cannot be interpreted in any other way than intimidation.

To anyone defending this, don't think this stops with just illegal immigrants or judges you don't like.
Unless you like the idea of living in a kingdom where the king has divine right to rule with absolute authority.

[NineSpine]

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That is neither here nor there.

While a bank will allow you to take out loans due to the shares, they will not give out loans equal to your net worth. Its always just a fraction.

I think you are confused about how wealth works. Nobody with that much wealth wakes up every day and says "I need to go buy a burrito, what stock should I sell to do that?" They use the wealth as leverage.

I own some empty land nearby to where I live. It's just a random investment. I let some folks hunt there, and occasionally there's some tree farming. It's worth around $100k on paper. If I wanted to sell that land, it might take years if I am lucky. It's not in an area that is easy to offload property in, but the fact remains that it represents about $100k worth of wealth. The practical illiquidity is mostly a moot point, because I don't need to sell it. I can leverage it as needed, which is going to be more useful than selling it even if I could sell it quickly.

Additionally, you are assuming that since Musk can't sell his Tesla stock on the open market without cratering the price, he can't sell it. The open market is not the only place to sell stock. He would just need a buyer. And guess what... that buyer doesn't need to have the value of Tesla in liquid assets. That buyer would be borrowing the vast majority of the money.

The point here is that wealth is not about liquidity to wealthy people. It's about leverage. You are looking at wealth the way a middle class household does. That's not the category here.

[Lynarii]

Remember how a bunch of us were saying that US citizens would be deported without due process?

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/26/nx-s1...d-girl-citizen

ICE has deported a US citizen without due process.

[Edge-]

Remember how a bunch of us were saying that US citizens would be deported without due process?

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/26/nx-s1...d-girl-citizen

ICE has deported a US citizen without due process.

not just that

a two year old

[DarkTZeratul]

Remember how a bunch of us were saying that US citizens would be deported without due process?

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/26/nx-s1...d-girl-citizen

ICE has deported a US citizen without due process.

Not just any citizen, but a fucking toddler.

[Lynarii]

not just that

a two year old

Whose father, also a US citizen, was actively trying to keep in the country.

[Xyonai]

Remember how a bunch of us were saying that US citizens would be deported without due process?

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/26/nx-s1...d-girl-citizen

ICE has deported a US citizen without due process.

What a bunch of evil dipshits. Like seriously, fuck these people. That entire department needs to be dismantled and its leaders pelted with rocks anytime they're seen in public.