Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

It's only taken over three years, and no doubt he will flip-flop again, but Trump seems to finally realise that maybe pootie has no desire for peace after all.

Putin just earlier announced he'd taken over a large chunk of Ukraine. Meaning, now Ukraine will not accept any offer from Trump.

[Shpriest]

So [i]you have this guy charged with three counts of Battery-Domestic Abuse-Infliction of Physical Pain

All that sea lioning while sporting the avatar of a fucking rapist and voting for another one is pathetic. You piece of shit never ever get to claim the high ground.

[tehdang]

Dunno why I am being tagged on this. From the moment this came out my response was that I was not going to hitch my ride on this case. I did comment on how much of a circus the administration is making the entire thing. Its a fetish show for the administration that craves doing stuff like this.

You must've forgotten that the moment this came out, you accused me of cheering on the arrest. That's what I get for defending the right to wait for more information before rendering judgment.

First off, courthouses, while public places, there are areas that people cannot just freely enter.

Literally said this in my post.

Second, as I stated, the Judge presiding over the courthouse that day should be given fair warning about what is going to happen along with City Hall(the local government) and the like so that issues like what has happened don't arise.

I don't think anyone could predict a judge sneaking a defendant out of the courtroom in the middle of a criminal case to avoid an arrest warrant.

Yes, they can execute said warrants in the public areas but also, and this is a big one, they are also required to identify themselves as actual ICE agents(and have identifying markers) or other officers of the law while executing it. There are very real reasons for this. It is for the safety of the officers along with the safety of everyone else around. One of the big reasons why they are going into courthouses and the like is because people are not allowed to carry firearms into them.

Defendants lawyers noticed the ICE members, and that started the whole Brief Judge-Judge Suddenly Adjourns-Judge Whisks Defendant Away. You're left wondering how lawyers noticed?

If ICE or whomever continues to grab people without identifying themselves and continue to do it in plain clothes, someone will open fire onto them.

Pretty fanciful in this case, since the majority of ICE agents were identified in a public place waiting to execute a warrant. If you think someone is going to fire on ICE agents in a courthouse, I'm a little amused.

[Elder Millennial]

I'm not defending Trump, he's a piece of shit and a subhuman moron, but I'm actually starting to suspect he isn't really in charge.


Nothing conspiracy theory or some such, but rather that he is actually too fucking stupid to understand what he is doing, and he pretty much signs or takes on any policy put before him by a small group of insiders he actually trusts.

We had several of these ambush interviews where Lutnik, Miller etc aren't around to manage him and when journalists ask him shit about stuff like SCOTUS rulings, arrests, trade stuff, Ukraine stuff, he genuinely has no fucking clue what he is being asked about.

And I think this is now common knowledge at upper levels of international diplomacy, especially seeing that little ambush 1 on 1 Macron, Starmer, the Vatican and Zelensky had set up for Trump.

Considering that pretty much all the info Trump is now getting is filtered through the likes of Gabbard, Hegseth, Lutnik, Miller, Vance etc I don't really think Trump is connected to reality anymore.

[Breccia]

I'm not defending Trump, he's a piece of shit and a subhuman moron, but I'm actually starting to suspect he isn't really in charge.

It was the same conversation people had a lot with second-term Reagan and W. "He's too stupid/senile/retarded to be running the show."

Difference is, Trump is also a sociopathic narcissist, does not like being told what to do, and dementia does not soften that edge. I think it's possible his admin is doing its best to keep things above water while Trump points at random spots on the map saying "they love me there, they hate me there, tariffs, tariffs, JOBS!" When he says something in public, it still has to be done. As much as any competent and/or scheming employees might want to slow or stop that, Trump also loves cameras, so their attempts will be dulled.

He is too fucking stupid. You're right about that. Problem is, someone can be too fucking stupid to know how a loaded gun works, but if handed one, can still shoot someone.

And don't worry. @tehdang will spend every post every day defending Trump, typically by nitpicking semantic details rather than engage with policy or facts.

[Belize]

I'm not defending Trump, he's a piece of shit and a subhuman moron, but I'm actually starting to suspect he isn't really in charge.

Trump just wants to golf, be on TV and stay out of jail. It's all a big episode of The Apprentice for him, he's said in the past that things would have "great TV ratings", like that's what really mattered

It's not a conspiracy theory at all that he's just there to sign EOs that others put in front of him, we've known that since day one when the Heritage Foundation people didn't bother to erase their names from the PDFs.

[Breccia]

Another day, another court loss for Trump. His attempts to dismantle unions, this time.

Section 2 of the Executive Order, Exclusions from Federal Labor-Management Relations Programs (March 27, 2025) is unlawful s applied to the Defendants whoa re heads of agencies with employees represented by the Plaintiff

Hey, remember when Trump was a failed businessman and just refused to pay people, hoping that most of them couldn't afford to sue him? Yeah...that's not working here.

[Veggie50]

Your argument seemed to be that it is invalid to use someone's illiquid assets as a measure of wealth, so that's the only thing I was addressing. Wealth is not a measure of your ability to liquidate assets. It's a measure of usable value, but you don't have to liquidate an asset to use it.

I'll grant you that Tesla may be a special case due to how absurdly overvalued it has spiked.

Ah that explains our disconnect. My argument was against viewing market cap as wealth, not against illiquid assets. Glad we’re back on the same page.

[NineSpine]

Ah that explains our disconnect. My argument was against viewing market cap as wealth, not against illiquid assets. Glad we’re back on the same page.

That makes more sense. I think that in either case when we are talking about people with that level of wealth, it is really all functionally equal anyway. Someone with $50B and someone with $500B when measured this way aren’t really capable of different things.

[xenogear3]

I'm not defending Trump, he's a piece of shit and a subhuman moron, but I'm actually starting to suspect he isn't really in charge.

You can replace Trump and put another president name (Biden, Bush, etc) in it, and it makes sense.

[Kaleredar]

You can replace Trump and put another president name (Biden, Bush, etc) in it, and it makes sense.

Perhaps but they didn’t crash the economy, alienate every US ally, compromise national security and cripple the ability of the government to function. All in under 100 days.

[postman1782]

You can replace Trump and put another president name (Biden, Bush, etc) in it, and it makes sense.

No it doesn't. None of them did anything like this since Andrew Jackson.

[Breccia]

Trump family to open $500,000 buy-in private club in DC.

Hey, remember when people made a big deal about Hunter Biden? About how people paid him money and therefore it was corrupt because of President Joe Biden?

Those people get to eat shit. Trump Jr. is doing the same in public.

So, there's on point in waiting, I'll just quote our favorite hypocrite now.

This kind of blatant corruption is only okay when my side does it.

[Edge-]

Trump family to open $500,000 buy-in private club in DC.

Hey, remember when people made a big deal about Hunter Biden? About how people paid him money and therefore it was corrupt because of President Joe Biden?

Those people get to eat shit. Trump Jr. is doing the same in public.

So, there's on point in waiting, I'll just quote our favorite hypocrite now.

it's fun because this looks like a lot more explicitly buying access to the presidents inner circle

[Captain N]

Ah the United States. Where you can buy citizenship for $5 million or access to the President to request favors for $500K.

But her emails....

[Teriz]

Trump family to open $500,000 buy-in private club in DC.

Hey, remember when people made a big deal about Hunter Biden? About how people paid him money and therefore it was corrupt because of President Joe Biden?

Those people get to eat shit. Trump Jr. is doing the same in public.

So, there's on point in waiting, I'll just quote our favorite hypocrite now.

The corruption is so naked and out in the open that it just makes a mockery of our entire system.

And the Republicans in congress just don't care. It must be the easiest job in the world to be a Republican congressman when Trump's in office. You don't have to do anything except kiss his ass because you've given your job to him and his cronies.

[draynay]

And the Republicans in congress just don't care. It must be the easiest job in the world to be a Republican congressman when Trump's in office. You don't have to do anything except kiss his ass because you've given your job to him and his cronies.

They don’t do much regardless of who is in office.

[PhaelixWW]

They don’t do much regardless of who is in office.

I'll remind you:

Over the last 25 years, you have 2 years under Obama (2009-2010) where Democrats had control of the presidency and both chambers of Congress, and 2 years under Biden (2021-2022) that while nominally could be said to be under control of the Democrats by the slimmest of margins, really just meant that Manchin and Sinema just fucked us all over to prevent it.

Contrast that with 4 years under Dubya (2003-2006), 2 years under Trump's first fiasco (2017-2018) and now 2 more (2025-2026). Now the margins this time around are pretty thin, too, but not as thin as those 2 years under Biden, and Republicans have always been better at holding their nose and toeing the party line than Democrats.

So don't pretend like Democrats have had PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS (and an itty bitty living space) for long periods of time and just blundered about failing to do anything. And don't pretend like Republicans haven't had much more opportunity to game the system over the last 25 years.

And consider that conservatives also get off on not doing anything, which they can fairly well accomplish if they hold any one of the three, whereas Democrats need all three to generally get anything meaningful done.

[NED funded]

That Times interview is insane

I never took Trump for a communist, central planning by one single man

[tehdang]

I'll remind you:

And consider that conservatives also get off on not doing anything, which they can fairly well accomplish if they hold any one of the three, whereas Democrats need all three to generally get anything meaningful done.

I'll remind you that over the last 25 years, Republicans have had their equivalents of Manchin and Sinema for the Democrats. McCain, Murkowski, Collins.

but not as thin as those 2 years under Biden

Biden's trifecta: 50-50 Senate, +11 House
Trump's second Trifecta: 53-47 Senate, +4 House

The truthful portrayal is that both were/are thin.